Liteware definition?

[Susan Bugher]

Seems to have gone shareware. The PL dl link is a 404 for version 1.3.

"ZipScan FAQ
Purchasing
What do I get for purchasing a licence?You will be able to get the
full version of ZipScan. Each licence entitles you to run the program
on a single machine. If you want to run ZipScan on another computer,
you must purchase another licence. A licence entitles you to free
upgrades to all future versions of the program."

I have v1.3b:

http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/zipscan.html

http://www.woundedmoon.org/win32/zipscan13b.zip

Liteware, last freeware version.

Many many thanks for the posts.

Susan
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PL2003: http://www.pricelessware.org/2003/about2003PL.htm
PL2004 Review: http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/2004nominationsPL.php
alt.comp.freeware FAQ (short) - maintained by John F.
http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html

 

[Valery Kondakoff]

If a program fits the description of Liteware the ware description
for the program should include this: (Liteware).

nnCron LITE (Freeware)

Please, note, that nnCron and nnCron LITE are two completely different
apps. nnCron LITE is a complete windows cron/anacron port and there is
no a _better_ (paid) cron/anacron port called nnCron. So, I'm pretty
sure nnCron LITE fits in freeware category.

Naming this program LITE the author was trying to say that this is a
tiny and lightweight program.

Thanks.

 

[REMbranded]

Susan Bugher <[email protected]> wrote:

Many many thanks for the posts.

Unfortunately all but one I checked will go from freeware to liteware,
due to the changes from freeware to shareware by the program authors.

This is going to leave the 2003 page as mainly liteware if the other
programs pan out like the first few have. That seems like it
depreciates the programs in a way.

If they were freewares before, it seems strange to delegate them to a
lower ranking because the author added features to later $ releases.
Especially if the licensed freeware versions can be downloaded.

I'll keep chipping away though.

 

[dszady]

Trying to get a word in edge-wise "Susan Bugher" wrote in

stan wrote:

SETI Spy (??? ware)= Soon to be abandon-ware with just occasional bug fixes.
Wants someone to take over the project. SETI@Home (??? ware)= freeware

All SETI products and plugins are also donationware, if you desire.

<quote="http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/virus.html">
November 14, 2003

Over the past few weeks we've been getting reports from users who found
unauthorized installations of SETI@home on their systems. It should be
made clear that this is not due to a security flaw in SETI@home itself,
but a flaw in your system that allows viruses to infiltrate and install
our software.
</quote>
Let's be careful out there.

 

[Bjorn Abelli]

"Susan Bugher" ...

Thank you. Your help is *much* appreciated.

You're welcome!

Now, where were I when I came back from lunch?

ClickTray Calendar Freeware.

Clint's Wallpaper Master

(status uncertain)
http://thestaticvoid.net/contact.php

Crowbar

(status uncertain)
http://www.efn.org/~gunneric/crowbar.htm

GrabIt Freeware.

Freeware.

IceChat

(status uncertain)
http://69.56.183.114/~icechat/modul...e=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=1

iDailyDiary Freeware.

ieSpell

Freeware (for non-commercial use only)

LastQF

(status uncertain) Seems to be abandoned...

LaunchMate Freeware

Media Player Classic

Freeware (Open Source GPL)

MesNews Freeware

Monitor Off Freeware

Mozilla Calendar

Freeware (Open Source)

Note: *All* "Mozilla" entries on the nominationlist at this moment are
Freeware with Open Source.

MsDVR 2000 Freeware

Freeware

Octopus

Freeware (according to BlueChillies)
http://www.bluechillies.com/details/10.html

But...
Page removed from site: http://redrival.com/mak/octopus
404 on download link: http://members.xoom.com/Moskalyuk/Octopus

I found another download link at:
http://www.karaokesoft.narod.ru/utility/octopus.zip

onlineTV

Adware! And requires both RealPlayer and Windows MediaPlayer.
(should possibly be removed from nominationlist?)

 

[Aaron]

@news.wplus.net:

Hi Stan.

I don't make the rules and im not a expert on kerio, only tried it

once,

I'm not an expert either, but I have tried them more than once

but kerio 4 has many features that kerio 2.15 doesn't have,

Well at the time Kerio 2.15 was released, Kerio 4.0 did not exist
obviously.

Back then Kerio 2.15 had no equalavant of a big brother with more
features (Winroute is a totally different product) , so clearly it was
freeware.

The freeware version of Kerio 4 has less features than the paid version
of Kerio 4 (or Kerio 2.15 for that matter), so Kerio 4 might be
considered liteware yes. Granted, the features added including web
filtering isn't exactly a critical function for a packet filter, ICS
support could be considered a important feature....

But I don't think you should compared Kerio 2.15 to Kerio 4 and conclude
the former is liteware. Obviously older versions of software will have
fewer features than the newer versions. Perhaps abandonware might be more
accurate.

any freeware, that has a "Paid" version with more features,
automatically is classified liteware, according to the rules.

if you nominated this product perhaps you could list the extra features
of kerio 4 compared to the free version in the descriptions thread

feel free to express any opinion you may have regarding this product
or the definition of liteware.

regards
stan

Aaron (my email is not munged!)

 

[Aaron]

Aaron <[email protected]>:

I have to piggy-back Aaron's post in the thread, because for some
reason several of the recent messages from [stan <[email protected]>]
are not on the uni-berlin.de server. It's

I wish you wouldn't piggy-back on my post when flaming people.




Aaron (my email is not munged!)

 

[Bjorn Abelli]

"Bjorn Abelli" ...

Awake again!

Oubliette

Freeware (Open Source)

Pablo Commander

Freeware (for non-commercial use)

Pan

Freeware (Open Source)
(prerequisite: GTK for Windows)

Pardon

Freeware (for non-commercial use)

Passwords Database

Freeware (Open Source - Mozilla Public Licence)

PDF Explorer Freeware

Pick-a-Tag

Freeware
OS: Windows 95/98/Me/NT/2000/XP

Poppy for Windows Freeware

Popup Manager

Freeware (for non-commercial use)

PowerMenu Freeware

Privoxy

Freeware (Open Source - GNU GPL)

Python

Freeware (Open Source - OSI)

Quick Shutdown

Freeware
OS: Windows 9x/Me/XP/2000/NT

QuickPar Freeware

RoundAbout PMO (was Phoenix Mail)

Freeware (Open Source)

Actually the name seems to be only "RoundAbout"

To make things clear(?), RoundAbout is "based" on "Phoenix Mail"
(abbreviated PMO or phxmail), but that program in itself still exists and is
still developed further in another track at SourceForge!

http://sourceforge.net/projects/phxmail/

ScanDefrag Freeware

Freeware

SETI Spy

Freeware
OS: Windows95/98/Me/NT/2000/XP

SharkPost Freeware

Freeware

SlimBrowser

Freeware
OS: Win95/98/ME/NT/2k/XP/2003
(prerequisite: Internet Explorer)

SplashKiller

(status uncertain)
http://www.digitallis.co.uk/pc/SplashKiller/index.html

TestDisk

Freeware (Open Source - GNU GPL)

tinySpell Freeware

TortoiseCVS

Freeware (Open Source - GPL)

TweakAll Freeware

Wave Editor

Freeware (for non-commercial use)

 

[Aaron]

You must mean when I told him I did not understand what he meant
in telling me to "go wash dishes." Wish all you want, Aaron.

Right. Enjoy flaming, that seems to be what you excel at anyway.

I'll leave the two of you alone together in your sandbox.

Better idea, I'll killfile you. Goodbye.





Aaron (my email is not munged!)

 

[omega]

I wish you wouldn't piggy-back on my post when flaming people.

You must mean when I told him I did not understand what he meant
in telling me to "go wash dishes." Wish all you want, Aaron.

The uni-berlin.de server, which many of us use, has "killfiled" his
posts en massed (accepts external cancels or something).

No loss, since Google posting profile shows from him only the teeniest
ratio of posts about actual freeware programs.

I'll leave the two of you alone together in your sandbox.

 

[stan]

Back then Kerio 2.15 had no equalavant of a big brother with more
features (Winroute is a totally different product) , so clearly it was
freeware.

The freeware version of Kerio 4 has less features than the paid version
of Kerio 4 (or Kerio 2.15 for that matter), so Kerio 4 might be
considered liteware yes. Granted, the features added including web
filtering isn't exactly a critical function for a packet filter, ICS
support could be considered a important feature....

But I don't think you should compared Kerio 2.15 to Kerio 4 and conclude
the former is liteware. Obviously older versions of software will have
fewer features than the newer versions. Perhaps abandonware might be more
accurate.

hi Aaron, it does seem like all versions of kerio are "liteware" except
for the "payware" version, according to the rules..

but perhaps "Susan" should give the final word on kerio 2.15 if you like.

"Susan can you verify kerio 2.15 is "liteware" thanks"

regards
stan

 

[stan]

I'm going to release a free professional edition of Babya
System(freeware)-basically bundled with a icon editor, and a folder security
app,and a image editor, and a MP3 encoder. It would not be labelled liteware

Sounds great (A.A. Fussy), I will have to try it ASAP, keep up the good
work,
but what if it becomes really popular and a company comes along and gives
you
a bundle of cash for the rights to distribute it, then it will become
payware,
just like JV16 and all the freeware guys are left in the dark once more,

"purely hypothetical" hehe

regards
stan

 

[stan]

4ax.com:

Right. Enjoy flaming, that seems to be what you excel at anyway.


Better idea, I'll killfile you. Goodbye.

well done Aaron..

I haven't ever plonk anybody yet, but karen.s deserves it..

it does seem like karen.S is delibratly provoking and instigating bad
behavior at the same time trying to be the ACF police, not a good
combination, I just want karen.S to realize this is and to try adjust her
character or be odored with a bad character profile. People see you for
what you are karen.S or (omega) whatever you like to be called..

regards
stan

 

[John Fitzsimons]

Help?? Help WORK?! I don't want to do work! I just wanna have a big
mega-thread and argue the abstracts for 50,000 posts. That's where
the fun is! Sheeeesh.

No, the fun will be when someone says that a "freeware" program with
5 functions is better than a "liteware" program having 25 functions.
Simply because one is "freeware" and the other "liteware".

Creating more pointless threads like this one.

Regards, John.

 

[stan]

No, the fun will be when someone says that a "freeware" program with
5 functions is better than a "liteware" program having 25 functions.
Simply because one is "freeware" and the other "liteware".

Creating more pointless threads like this one.

Regards, John.

so your saying this thread is pointless, even though it has obviously
caused allot of freeware nominations to be reclassified to liteware,
would you prefer they stay classified as freeware?, should the rules be
changed? how would you like them changed? be more constructive john Im
interest in listening to your personal opinion, please elaborate..me and
susan are very interested in what you have to say..



regards
stan

 

[Susan Bugher]

Please, note, that nnCron and nnCron LITE are two completely different
apps. nnCron LITE is a complete windows cron/anacron port and there is
no a _better_ (paid) cron/anacron port called nnCron. So, I'm pretty
sure nnCron LITE fits in freeware category.

Naming this program LITE the author was trying to say that this is a
tiny and lightweight program.

IMO the Liteware designation benefits both visitors to the Pricelessware
site and the program's author.

Looking at the nnCron LITE web page I see this message at the end of the
nnCron LITE description:

<quote>
nnCron LITE is tiny, powerful and easy to use. And if you need not just
a scheduler, but a full-blown automation manager, take a look at nnCron.
</quote>

The Pricelessware List's Liteware designation delivers a similar
message: a more full-featured commercial program is available.

Another reason for using the Liteware designation is this:

If a shareware version of the program is seen *first* people often
conclude that the program has *changed* to shareware and leave. If a
person knows that *two* versions exist they look for the free version.

I think nnCron LITE should be listed as Liteware but will be happy to
discuss it further if you wish.

Susan
--
Pricelessware: http://www.pricelessware.org
PL2003: http://www.pricelessware.org/2003/about2003PL.htm
PL2004 Review: http://www.pricelessware.org/2004/2004nominationsPL.php
alt.comp.freeware FAQ (short) - maintained by John F.
http://clients.net2000.com.au/~johnf/faq.html

 

[Valery Kondakoff]

IMO the Liteware designation benefits both visitors to the
Pricelessware site and the program's author.

Looking at the nnCron LITE web page I see this message at the end of
the nnCron LITE description:

<quote>
nnCron LITE is tiny, powerful and easy to use. And if you need not
just a scheduler, but a full-blown automation manager, take a look at
nnCron. </quote>

The Pricelessware List's Liteware designation delivers a similar
message: a more full-featured commercial program is available.

Another reason for using the Liteware designation is this:

If a shareware version of the program is seen *first* people often
conclude that the program has *changed* to shareware and leave. If a
person knows that *two* versions exist they look for the free
version.

I think nnCron LITE should be listed as Liteware but will be happy to
discuss it further if you wish.

Ah, thank you for your explanations. 'Liteware' of 'Freeware' is not
very important question to me. I will be happy if nnCron LITE will be
listed on PW (no matter 'freeware' or 'liteware').

I just wanted to point you to the fact, that there is no chance to
develop 'more full-featured' version of nnCron LITE - because it is
accurate Windows cron port (with some additional features like
scripting, or Anacron functionality).

I think nnCron _LITE_ was wrong name for this project!

 

[Vic Dura]

it does seem like karen.S is delibratly provoking and instigating bad
behavior at the same time trying to be the ACF police, not a good
combination,

You find that kind of behavior around here every once and a while.
Folks usually protest pretty strongly and that helps a lot.

 

[Bob Adkins]

The free version does not have the word list, search, anagram, or customization features."

Doesn't matter. It's still free, and still the best thesaurus out there.

Bob

 

[John Fitzsimons]

so your saying this thread is pointless,

Was there something confusing about my last sentence ?

even though it has obviously
caused allot of freeware nominations to be reclassified to liteware,

Yes, rather a waste of time and effort.

would you prefer they stay classified as freeware?, should the rules be
changed? how would you like them changed? be more constructive john Im
interest in listening to your personal opinion, please elaborate..me and
susan are very interested in what you have to say..

You and Susan can do whatever you like. If you want to endlessly
debate how many angels can dance on the tip of a pin then you can do
that too.

My opinion is quite clear. Re-read *my* first paragraph above. A
number of times if necessary. Many liteware programs are far better
than freeware offerings.

Due to your re-labeling of freeware many people will select
"freeware" programs that are far inferior to "liteware" programs in
functionality. Simply because of the label you have given them.

Regards, John.