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Wrong.
Linux is a POSIX compatible operating system that look a lot like a
UNIX system. But, beside some point of design, it borrows nothing from
UNIX.

Isn't that what I said?
BSD ans SystemV both have the same origins.

Yeah, that's what I said alright.
 
Darrien <Darrien_Lambert@[email protected]> wrote:
More like second cousins.
Linicks is a clone of Minix, Minix is a clone of Unix.
*BSD has descended directly from the original Unix code.

http://ragib.hypermart.net/linux/

"A solution seemed to appear in form of MINIX. It was written from
scratch by Andrew S. Tanenbaum, a Dutch professor who wanted to teach
his students the inner workings of a real operating system. It was
designed to run on the Intel 8086 microprocessors that had flooded the
world market.

As an operating system, MINIX was not a superb one. But it had the
advantage that the source code was available. Anyone who happened to
get the book 'Operating System' by Tanenbaum could get hold of the
12,000 lines of code, written in C and assembly language. For the
first time, an aspiring programmer or hacker could read the source
codes of the operating system, which to that time the software vendors
had guarded vigorously. A superb author, Tanenbaum captivated the
brightest minds of computer science with the elaborate and
immaculately lively discussion of the art of creating a working
operating system. Students of Computer Science all over the world
poured over the book, reading through the codes to understand the very
system that runs their computer."

I don't think you can clone UNIX with 12,000 lines of code. Tanenbaum
was simply writing a crude OS to instruct with, as many do.

There are some interesting highlights on the link above.


"In August 25, 1991 the historic post was sent to the MINIX news group
by Linus .....

From: (e-mail address removed) (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
Summary: small poll for my new operating system
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Hello everybody out there using minix -
I'm doing a (free) operating system (just a hobby, won't be big and
professional like gnu) for 386(486) AT clones. This has been brewing
since april, and is starting to get ready. I'd like any feedback on
things people like/dislike in minix, as my OS resembles it somewhat
(same physical layout of the file-system (due to practical reasons)
among other things). I've currently ported bash(1.08) and gcc(1.40),
and things seem to work.This implies that I'll get something practical
within a few months, andI'd like to know what features most people
would want. Any suggestions are welcome, but I won't promise I'll
implement them :-)

Linus ([email protected])
PS. Yes - it's free of any minix code, and it has a multi-threaded fs.
It is NOT protable (uses 386 task switching etc), and it probably
never will support anything other than AT-harddisks, as that's
all I have :-(."
 

[snip exerpts]
I don't think you can clone UNIX with 12,000 lines of code. Tanenbaum
was simply writing a crude OS to instruct with, as many do.

I never said it was a *good* clone.


http://www.cs.vu.nl/~ast/minix.html

WHAT IS MINIX 2.0
MINIX is a free UNIX clone that is available with all the source code


http://liinwww.ira.uka.de/bibliography/Os/minix.html

Bibliography on Minix, a UNIX-like operating system


http://www.computerhope.com/unix/minix.htm

MINIX is a free UNIX clone written from scratch...


http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minix

Minix
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Minix is one of a number of 'Unix look alike' operating systems...


Need I go on?
 
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"A solution seemed to appear in form of MINIX. It was written from
scratch by Andrew S. Tanenbaum, a Dutch professor who wanted to teach
his students the inner workings of a real operating system. It was
designed to run on the Intel 8086 microprocessors that had flooded the
world market.
As an operating system, MINIX was not a superb one. But it had the
advantage that the source code was available. Anyone who happened to
get the book 'Operating System' by Tanenbaum could get hold of the
12,000 lines of code, written in C and assembly language. For the
first time, an aspiring programmer or hacker could read the source
codes of the operating system, which to that time the software vendors
had guarded vigorously. A superb author, Tanenbaum captivated the
brightest minds of computer science with the elaborate and
immaculately lively discussion of the art of creating a working
operating system. Students of Computer Science all over the world
poured over the book, reading through the codes to understand the very
system that runs their computer."
I don't think you can clone UNIX with 12,000 lines of code. Tanenbaum
was simply writing a crude OS to instruct with, as many do.
There are some interesting highlights on the link above.
"In August 25, 1991 the historic post was sent to the MINIX news group
by Linus .....
From: (e-mail address removed) (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.minix
Subject: What would you like to see most in minix?
Summary: small poll for my new operating system
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: 25 Aug 91 20:57:08 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
 
More like second cousins.

Linicks is a clone of Minix, Minix is a clone of Unix.

*BSD has descended directly from the original Unix code.

You make yourself out to be a bit of a *nix historian. Why?. Your
sig implies something else entirely. Please explain if you will?

#--
#Registered Linucks hater #7011799107
 
You make yourself out to be a bit of a *nix historian. Why?.

I never intended to pass myself off as a *nix historian. I only meant to
correct someone else's statement. I apologise if I mislead you.
Your sig implies something else entirely. Please explain if you will?

What's there to explain?

I hate Linicks.
 
Scott said:
You make yourself out to be a bit of a *nix historian. Why?. Your
sig implies something else entirely. Please explain if you will?

#--
#Registered Linucks hater #7011799107

If you want to see a pretty complete UNIX timeline, have a look at
http://www.levenez.com/unix/

He has got nearly all of the variants and the branches.

Cheers,
Gary B-)
 
If you want to see a pretty complete UNIX timeline, have a look at
http://www.levenez.com/unix/

He has got nearly all of the variants and the branches.

Been there. I'm trying to make friends with someone that's taking drafting
so he can "borrow" the school's plotter and print me out a continuous sheet
that I can frame.

No tape for me!
 
What's there to explain?

I hate Linicks.

Those love/hate things always baffle me. You know, those things you
love to hate. Still, a few more lines explaining the hatred would
have been nice. But never mind, heading into deep OT territory here.

Carry on...
 
Those love/hate things always baffle me. You know, those things you
love to hate. Still, a few more lines explaining the hatred would
have been nice. But never mind, heading into deep OT territory here.

Carry on...

If you must know, contact me via email.
 
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