A
AZ Nomad
Funny. He got into my KF exactly two seconds before I read
your reply.
Funny. He got into my KF exactly two seconds before I read
your reply.
B
Bob Williams
I think you will get more CONSISTENT results(if slightly less
resolution) from a B/W laser printer.
The toner is a fixed color, exactly the same each time.
A color inkjet printer forms black from a mixture of Cyan, Magenta, and
Yellow (perhaps some black too). Over time the greyscale may get biased
toward one of the colors. If one of the nozzles gets slightly clogged,
the grey will be biased. Even if you use your inkjet in Black Only mode,
the greyscale may become slightly biased as the color density changes.
Also, in MOST inkjet printers the color is produced with water soluble
dyes. An inkjet image can be ruined if it gets wet. Finally, except for
pigment based inks the image can fade with time. B/W Laser Printers use
carbon black as the pigment and things don't get much blacker or
permanent than carbon.
Bob Williams
J
J. Clarke
Bob said:
You're overgeneralizing. Some color inkjets have more colors than that,
some have two shades of gray in addition to black, some use CMYK instead of
CMY. Some lasers use CMY to form black.
If this is mission critical then one checks calibration periodically and
either fixes the problem or recalibrates. Far as I know a slight tint is
not nearly the obstacle to x-ray interpretation that inadequate tonal range
would be.
The nozzles don't get "slightly clogged" as a rule.
Read what the OP wrote--he's digitizing, not printing for archival storage.
Which is fine if you're trying to make something black and permanent.
If one wants to do this _right_ one gets a purpose-made x-ray printer that
prints on dry-process film and not on paper.
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measekite
Bob said:
Not quite true. The Canon ip4200/5200 has a separate pigmented black
cart for text and uses a dye based black for photos.
I
Ian
measekite said:
They are not talking about text. Your an IDIOT.
Another useless post. Almost 6000 useless post this year alone.
B
Burt
Did you want to print out digital xray images? I've scanned conventional
dental xrays (as a positive transparency) on an Epson 3170 scanner at 300
dpi into photoshop elements 3, cropped to the image size I wanted to print,
and printed them on either glossy photo paper or on coated inkjet paper. I
did this on a Canon i960 (six color printer no longer available) and a canon
ip5000 (four color carts plus a pigment based black for text). I used the
setting for either matte photo paper or glossy photo paper. Plain paper
settings on the ip5000 (or ip4200, ip5200, etc) would use the pigment based
ink tank. The scan and printing were done in color and the slight blueish
cast from the xray printed pretty true. I also tried printing it on an HP5p
(mono laser printer about 10 years old, but still working as new). Much
better print on the inkjet.
Is this for insurance submissions or communication withg referrers? I am
retired from specialty dental practice, but I set this up for a friend who
still practices general dentistry. Some specialists encorporate xray images
in the body of a letter to their referring dds when describing treatment
such as completed endodontic care. Just remember that the image quality
will not be adequate with plain paper. It is absolutely necessary to print
on coated inkjet paper or glossy photo paper for excellent contrast and
definition.
dental xrays (as a positive transparency) on an Epson 3170 scanner at 300
dpi into photoshop elements 3, cropped to the image size I wanted to print,
and printed them on either glossy photo paper or on coated inkjet paper. I
did this on a Canon i960 (six color printer no longer available) and a canon
ip5000 (four color carts plus a pigment based black for text). I used the
setting for either matte photo paper or glossy photo paper. Plain paper
settings on the ip5000 (or ip4200, ip5200, etc) would use the pigment based
ink tank. The scan and printing were done in color and the slight blueish
cast from the xray printed pretty true. I also tried printing it on an HP5p
(mono laser printer about 10 years old, but still working as new). Much
better print on the inkjet.
Is this for insurance submissions or communication withg referrers? I am
retired from specialty dental practice, but I set this up for a friend who
still practices general dentistry. Some specialists encorporate xray images
in the body of a letter to their referring dds when describing treatment
such as completed endodontic care. Just remember that the image quality
will not be adequate with plain paper. It is absolutely necessary to print
on coated inkjet paper or glossy photo paper for excellent contrast and
definition.
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Arthur Entlich
1) The following are "opinions", for those who need them defined as such.
2) The powers of the day punished heretics like Galileo for professing
the earth revolved around the sun.
3) There are still people denying the existence of global climate change.
I never said bottom posting was wrong. Illogical and foolish, maybe, a
waste of most people's time, probably, anal retentive, most definitely,
but not wrong. ;-) I only brought this up because someone referred to
my postings indirectly and implied my use of top posting was "wrong", or
at least coming from the wrong side of the tracks.
As I mentioned, not only does no one complain in any of the more
professional lists I contribute to, but many other posters also do the
same thing.
Eventually, either email clients will sort this out automatically by a
preference the person chooses in reading messages, or people will
smarten up enough to recognize the logic of what I mentioned previously ;-).
But "wrong", no, this isn't a mathematical equation, hard science, or a
ethical choice.
Oh, and lastly, I may know something about printers, but I also studied
higher level university courses in the sciences, human physiology,
psychology and perception, sociology, medicine and education, and others
if you consider academic knowledge as having any value.
Art
2) The powers of the day punished heretics like Galileo for professing
the earth revolved around the sun.
3) There are still people denying the existence of global climate change.
I never said bottom posting was wrong. Illogical and foolish, maybe, a
waste of most people's time, probably, anal retentive, most definitely,
but not wrong. ;-) I only brought this up because someone referred to
my postings indirectly and implied my use of top posting was "wrong", or
at least coming from the wrong side of the tracks.
As I mentioned, not only does no one complain in any of the more
professional lists I contribute to, but many other posters also do the
same thing.
Eventually, either email clients will sort this out automatically by a
preference the person chooses in reading messages, or people will
smarten up enough to recognize the logic of what I mentioned previously ;-).
But "wrong", no, this isn't a mathematical equation, hard science, or a
ethical choice.
Oh, and lastly, I may know something about printers, but I also studied
higher level university courses in the sciences, human physiology,
psychology and perception, sociology, medicine and education, and others
if you consider academic knowledge as having any value.
Art
A
Arthur Entlich
Although I agree that most of us have become lazy in our trimming (I
include myself), as it wastes bandwidth and storage space, one of the
many beauties of top posting is, even when we do not trim, the
extraneous extra portions fall below where people may access them if
they so wish, or ignore them and not have them confuse the new information.
As to presenting information so it may be best consumed for other
readers, firstly, I idiosyncratically disagree, because I believe top
posting is a cleaner and more effective method of accessing the
information, and would like others to eventually see the light of this
approach, and secondly, with the amount of postings I have to sort
through and respond to, I simply would be unable to provide the services
I do with bottom postings, and therefore, the reader would get no
benefit from my posts, since I would be unable to write them in the time
I am allowed.
Art
include myself), as it wastes bandwidth and storage space, one of the
many beauties of top posting is, even when we do not trim, the
extraneous extra portions fall below where people may access them if
they so wish, or ignore them and not have them confuse the new information.
As to presenting information so it may be best consumed for other
readers, firstly, I idiosyncratically disagree, because I believe top
posting is a cleaner and more effective method of accessing the
information, and would like others to eventually see the light of this
approach, and secondly, with the amount of postings I have to sort
through and respond to, I simply would be unable to provide the services
I do with bottom postings, and therefore, the reader would get no
benefit from my posts, since I would be unable to write them in the time
I am allowed.
Art
A
Arthur Entlich
Well put... a bit like Memento (the movie) ;-)
Art
Art
A
Arthur Entlich
And it can all be there right under the most recent additions.
Art
Art
L
Lou
Arthur said:
Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? Who knows? Who cares?
M
Michael J Davis
Mike
the laser v inkjet for greyscale printing. Have I missed the bus?
However, I just downloaded this thread because I was interested in
followed the thread can just scan upwards to the latest post.
'logically' from the bottom to the top. That way those who haven't
logic and arrange their comments so that their post can be read
I wish people who advocate top posting would go the whole way with their
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Michael J Davis
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Some newsgroup contributors appear to have confused
the meaning of "discussion" with "digression".
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the laser v inkjet for greyscale printing. Have I missed the bus?
However, I just downloaded this thread because I was interested in
followed the thread can just scan upwards to the latest post.
'logically' from the bottom to the top. That way those who haven't
logic and arrange their comments so that their post can be read
I wish people who advocate top posting would go the whole way with their
[The reply-to address is valid for 30 days from this posting]measekite said:
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Michael J Davis
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Some newsgroup contributors appear to have confused
the meaning of "discussion" with "digression".
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J
John McWilliams
Indeed, yes, you missed both the bus and the boat.
B
bongo rule
John McWilliams said:
well its a good job he did then, the bus was too heavy for the boat and the
boat sunk ..
