Knoppix 3.2

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I have a distro of linux, Knoppix 3.2 that came with PCWorld aus edition.
It booted OK then partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling type screen.
Hit the switch was the only way out.
PS
Win98SE, 128M RAM P2.
Very clean.
Is the CD stuffed?
Thanks and all that
l.
 
lubinok said:
I have a distro of linux, Knoppix 3.2 that came with PCWorld aus edition.
It booted OK then partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling type screen.
Hit the switch was the only way out.
PS
Win98SE, 128M RAM P2.
Very clean.
Is the CD stuffed?
Thanks and all that
l.
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Let it run a while. That's probably just Knoppix starting up. On my
system, it runs several multicolored lines and then the UI opens.
 
I have a distro of linux, Knoppix 3.2 that came with PCWorld aus edition.
It booted OK then partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling type screen.
Hit the switch was the only way out.
PS
Win98SE, 128M RAM P2.
Very clean.
Is the CD stuffed?
Thanks and all that
l.
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You must type some login commands, I forgot which.
I think it has help on the CD. Try to press F1 - F12,
maybe help menu will appear. Also try to type: "help"
If nothing happens google for "Knoppix startup commands"
or something
 
On that special day, lubinok, ([email protected]) said...
partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling type screen.
Hit the switch was the only way out.
Click to expand...

This might be a hardware problem. Do you run a hard disk manager
(because of oversize)? Did you overclock the CPU?


Gabriele Neukam

(e-mail address removed)
 
| On that special day, lubinok, ([email protected]) said...
|
| > partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling type screen.
| > Hit the switch was the only way out.
|
| This might be a hardware problem. Do you run a hard disk manager
| (because of oversize)? Did you overclock the CPU?
|
No!
A completely clean machine.
No "smoke and mirrors" software.
No "smoke and mirrors" hardware mods.
I let it run for 20mins.
No CD action.
No HD action.
No F1-F12.
Maybe I should just stick with 98SE.
No hassles there!
l.
 
If you already have Windows, there's little reason to move to Linux/Knoppix.
It's not yet a very good desktop.
 
If you already have Windows, there's little reason to move to Linux/Knoppix.
It's not yet a very good desktop.
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Desktop? What desktop? I don't need no stinkin' desktop.

I live in explorer where I can see what is going on. Quick Launch
does everything for me or just double click on a file.

Wundoze security problems are reason enough for people to move to
Linux, except multi-media editing is still not supported to the degree
I require.
 
| If you already have Windows, there's little reason to move to Linux/Knoppix.
| It's not yet a very good desktop.
|
| | >
| message
| > | > | On that special day, lubinok, ([email protected]) said...
| > |
| > | > partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling type screen.
| > | > Hit the switch was the only way out.
| > |
| > | This might be a hardware problem. Do you run a hard disk manager
| > | (because of oversize)? Did you overclock the CPU?
| > |
| > No!
| > A completely clean machine.
| > No "smoke and mirrors" software.
| > No "smoke and mirrors" hardware mods.
| > I let it run for 20mins.
| > No CD action.
| > No HD action.
| > No F1-F12.
| > Maybe I should just stick with 98SE.
| > No hassles there!

I just wanted to have a "look and play".
I wanted to see what the fuss is all about.
I won't be able to unless I acquire another machine and buy a linux distro.
My present box has only a 3.5GB HD, less than 1/2 full, but it's idiotic to consider
partitioning!
Anyway thanks and all that!
l.
 
lubinok said:
I have a distro of linux, Knoppix 3.2 that came with PCWorld aus
edition.
It booted OK then partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling
type screen. Hit the switch was the only way out.
PS
Win98SE, 128M RAM P2.
Very clean.
Is the CD stuffed?
Click to expand...

If you have a broadband connection, you could download MandrakeMove and give
that a try. Everything is contained on the CD. It worked better for me than
Knoppix, which was sluggish on my machine.

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ftp.php3#move
 
lubinok said:
|> partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling type screen.
|> Hit the switch was the only way out.
|
| This might be a hardware problem. Do you run a hard disk manager
| (because of oversize)? Did you overclock the CPU?
|
No!
A completely clean machine.
Click to expand...

Maybe you are mistaking the normal bootup process in linux for an error
condition. It is quite normal to see a big number of text lines roll by
during the start of linux.

It is the log file of what is happening during bootup.
If it does not take too long, and it ends with the start of either a
graphical shell or a console prompt it is quite normal.
As long as text lines roll by the linux kernel is doing things to start up.
 
|
| >|> partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling type screen.
| >|> Hit the switch was the only way out.
| >|
| >| This might be a hardware problem. Do you run a hard disk manager
| >| (because of oversize)? Did you overclock the CPU?
| >|
| > No!
| > A completely clean machine.
|
| Maybe you are mistaking the normal bootup process in linux for an error
| condition. It is quite normal to see a big number of text lines roll by
| during the start of linux.
|
| It is the log file of what is happening during bootup.
| If it does not take too long, and it ends with the start of either a
| graphical shell or a console prompt it is quite normal.
| As long as text lines roll by the linux kernel is doing things to start up.

Plse read my posts!
No lines of text scrolling by!
Patterns scrolling by!
No HD activity!
No CD activity.
After 20 mins I assume computer hung!
No keys, mouse working
l.
 
lubinok said:
No lines of text scrolling by!
Patterns scrolling by!
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Okay.

I have also tried many linux distros, and found very few that really worked
on my computer.

Even the most user-friendly Linux distros are obviously still far from
fail-safe and can only handle some combinations of hardware.
 
I have a distro of linux, Knoppix 3.2 that came with PCWorld aus edition.
It booted OK then partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling type screen.
Hit the switch was the only way out.
Win98SE, 128M RAM P2.
Click to expand...

Did you get as far as the boot prompt, where you are advised to enter
the language option and possibly other options to deal with various
hardware problems?

If not, it is likely a hardware problem - probably a video card
problem. Do a Google for the name of your video card and the word
"Knoppix" and see what comes up? If it's unsupported, that's it,
unless there is a workaround. Also, as you didn't describe any of
your other hardware, it would be hard to diagnose further.

Knoppix does an excellent job detecting hardware that is adequately
"standard" considering it only has one CD to put all sorts of drivers
on as well as 1,000 or so applications.

But it's not guaranteed to work, neither does it's failure guarantee
that some distro of Linux - or even Knoppix - cannot work on a
specific machine.
 
No lines of text scrolling by!
Patterns scrolling by!
No HD activity!
No CD activity.
After 20 mins I assume computer hung!
No keys, mouse working
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Well, Knoppix - v3.3 anyway - comes up to a text mode boot prompt
fairly quickly before it does anything else - so you can enter the
language and override options. If you didn't see that right away,
it's definitely hosed - either the CD or some of your hardware wasn't
liked most likely.
 
If you have a broadband connection, you could download MandrakeMove and give
that a try. Everything is contained on the CD. It worked better for me than
Knoppix, which was sluggish on my machine.
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Interesting. I had the opposite experience on my machine. Mandrake
came up in what appeared to be 640x480 mode or something - like my old
Red Hat 7.0 used to do before I locked X down to 800x600. Weird
oversized screen. Knoppix, OTOH, came up slick as an ice cube with a
terrific screen background.

Mandrake worked okay once it was up, but it acted like it was
"struggling" to come up - whereas Knoppix whipped up like lightning.
A dozen or lines of boot messages and boom, there it was. On another
machine I tried it on, Knoppix issued a few more boot messages about
the hardware but still came up fast and everything worked.

On my machine, the SUSE Live Eval CD struggled for a hell of a long
time to come up - at one point reporting an error with CUPS
configuration which was odd since my Red Hat 7.3 uses CUPS for my
Epson C60 with no problem - and then wanted the root password (a
simple Enter) four times before finishing it's work. Came up and
worked okay - except the DSL configuration program would not run at
all. Everything else seemed okay.

I also tried Mepis which is another Debian Live CD.

Of the four, in terms of the experience, Knoppix was by far the
slickest and easiest, Mepis was number two, SUSE number three (because
once it was working, it's configuration tools were very easy to use -
I'm looking forward to a full FTP install soon), and Mandrake was
last. OTOH, I suspect a straight Mandrake full distro install would
be much better than the live CD install - I'll be installing 9.2 at
some point as well as SUSE and Red Hat 9 and perhaps Fedora Core 1.

I also suspect Mandrake will improve their Live CD version
considerably on the next releases. People will compare it with
Knoppix which is already up to version 3.3. Mandrake's is brand-new.
 
| On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 07:12:54 GMT, "lubinok" <[email protected]>
| wrote:
|
| >I have a distro of linux, Knoppix 3.2 that came with PCWorld aus edition.
| >It booted OK then partway (severl mins)and then went into a scrolling type screen.
| >Hit the switch was the only way out.
| >Win98SE, 128M RAM P2.
|
| Did you get as far as the boot prompt, where you are advised to enter
| the language option and possibly other options to deal with various
| hardware problems?
|
| If not, it is likely a hardware problem - probably a video card
| problem. Do a Google for the name of your video card and the word
| "Knoppix" and see what comes up? If it's unsupported, that's it,
| unless there is a workaround. Also, as you didn't describe any of
| your other hardware, it would be hard to diagnose further.
|
| Knoppix does an excellent job detecting hardware that is adequately
| "standard" considering it only has one CD to put all sorts of drivers
| on as well as 1,000 or so applications.
|
| But it's not guaranteed to work, neither does it's failure guarantee
| that some distro of Linux - or even Knoppix - cannot work on a
| specific machine.
|

*Sound: ESS1868.
*Video: Trident 3D image 9750.
*Modem: Rockwell Conexant Soft K56, Data ,Fax, Voice, Speaker phone PCI modem.
*Printer: Canon S200SP.
*Burner: LITE-ON LTR-40125S, Nero 6
Does this mean much?
l.
 
The rolling you described is the same thing knoppix did on mine.

Mandrakemove and mandrake 3 disk loaded OK on mine. I would suggest you try
them.

You will be a good candidate for Linux, you seem to be a glutton for
punishment to fight this long to get it on your machine and once you get it
loaded, your troubles are just starting. Good luck.

Glenn
 
On that special day, lubinok, ([email protected]) said...
*Video: Trident 3D image 9750.
Click to expand...

That may be the problem. When I tried a Linux flavour (a totally
different one) on a computer with a Trident card, it wouldn't work.
Trident offered a Linux driver for this card on its homepage, but it was
for RedHat IIRC. Knoppix is Debian based.


Gabriele Neukam

(e-mail address removed)
 
Trident 3D image 9750.
Click to expand...

From the Trident site:

=========================================================
Where can I find Linux drivers for Trident products?

Trident has written Linux drivers only for the BLADE 3D 9880 and the
BLADE T16, BLADE T64 and BLADE XP. Only the Linux drivers listed are
available to end-users to download from our web site. Linux drivers
may also be found at another site: www.Xfree86.org. Be aware that
Trident is not responsible for and makes no warranties regarding any
materials you access and/or download from this site, or any other
third party's, site(s). For more information on visiting third-party
sites, consult Trident's Terms of Use.
=======================================================

And here is the link to the Trident driver section of the XFree site:
http://www.xfree86.org/4.3.0/trident.4.html

Maybe this will help - you might be able to boot into text mode and
modify the X config according to the XFree site config info and get it
working in one mode or another.

Otherwise I can't find anything specific about drivers for that
specific model on Linux with a quick Google.
 
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