Kerio now pay???

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I just got a pop-notice from my Kerio Firewall saying that I have only
Four days left of the trial. I thought Kerio was free. What gives?
 
PuppyKatt said:
I just got a pop-notice from my Kerio Firewall saying that I have only
Four days left of the trial. I thought Kerio was free. What gives?
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I think you have a version of Kerio newer as 2.15 installed.
Version up to 2.15 are freeware, but after this version, they decided to go
commecial.

You could always de-install your version and instal version 2.15, aviable at
http://www.dachboden-wg.de/dlm/download2.php?id=2 (German page, English
software)

Be advised by the way, that ther have been several reports of Kerio 2.15
having problems while running on XP. I've installed and used it on xp
without much problems, but then I only need it very sparsely, since I have a
double Hardware firewall.

MightyKitten
 
MightyKitten said:
I think you have a version of Kerio newer as 2.15 installed.
Version up to 2.15 are freeware, but after this version, they decided to go
commecial.
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Not really true. See below.
You could always de-install your version and instal version 2.15, aviable at
http://www.dachboden-wg.de/dlm/download2.php?id=2 (German page, English
software)
Be advised by the way, that ther have been several reports of Kerio 2.15
having problems while running on XP. I've installed and used it on xp
without much problems, but then I only need it very sparsely, since I have a
double Hardware firewall.
Click to expand...

I loaded 2.1.5 on a friend's computer running XP Home and after doing
so, was unable to modify any of the Kerio settings except when I set
the initial rules. I uninstalled that version and installed 4.0.13 in
desperation. It works well, but note the following:

"Limited free edition
For home users, Kerio Personal Firewall 4 is available in two flavors
- the full edition and the limited free edition.
After installation, KPF works as the full edition for 30 days, after
which it becomes the limited free edition.
Limited free edition does not provide the content filtering
capabilities such as blocking pop-up windows, ads, VB scripts,
cookies, etc. and other extra features. Please see the comparison
table for more details."

The comparison table is here:

http://www.kerio.com/kpf_comparison_version.html

Looks to me like it has enough features to not be considered as crippled.

As for me though, since I didn't sucker for the bloated, crappy
spyware known as XP when I bought this system, I will continue to run
KPF 2.1.5. (Just got done with whipping my friend's XP based system
into shape after one week of nut-busting effort. I'm a little bitter
about XP and it's 40+ "critical" and "recommended" updates at this point.)
 
Thank you both Mighty Kitten and John. Does tis mean that after the 30
days, Kerio will automatically revert/convert to the simpler form of
Kerio, or do I need to uninstall it, and download the "no extras"
version?

--
Thou shalt not admit adultery.
: MightyKitten wrote:
: > PuppyKatt wrote:
: >
: >> I just got a pop-notice from my Kerio Firewall saying that I have
only
: >> Four days left of the trial. I thought Kerio was free. What
gives?
: >
: > I think you have a version of Kerio newer as 2.15 installed.
: > Version up to 2.15 are freeware, but after this version, they
decided to go
: > commecial.
:
: Not really true. See below.
:
: > You could always de-install your version and instal version 2.15,
aviable at
: > http://www.dachboden-wg.de/dlm/download2.php?id=2 (German page,
English
: > software)
: > Be advised by the way, that ther have been several reports of Kerio
2.15
: > having problems while running on XP. I've installed and used it on
xp
: > without much problems, but then I only need it very sparsely, since
I have a
: > double Hardware firewall.
:
: I loaded 2.1.5 on a friend's computer running XP Home and after doing
: so, was unable to modify any of the Kerio settings except when I set
: the initial rules. I uninstalled that version and installed 4.0.13 in
: desperation. It works well, but note the following:
:
: "Limited free edition
: For home users, Kerio Personal Firewall 4 is available in two flavors
: - the full edition and the limited free edition.
: After installation, KPF works as the full edition for 30 days, after
: which it becomes the limited free edition.
: Limited free edition does not provide the content filtering
: capabilities such as blocking pop-up windows, ads, VB scripts,
: cookies, etc. and other extra features. Please see the comparison
: table for more details."
:
: The comparison table is here:
:
: http://www.kerio.com/kpf_comparison_version.html
:
: Looks to me like it has enough features to not be considered as
crippled.
:
: As for me though, since I didn't sucker for the bloated, crappy
: spyware known as XP when I bought this system, I will continue to run
: KPF 2.1.5. (Just got done with whipping my friend's XP based system
: into shape after one week of nut-busting effort. I'm a little bitter
: about XP and it's 40+ "critical" and "recommended" updates at this
point.)
:
: --
: Regards from John Corliss
: No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware,
: nagware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses
: or warez please.
 
John said:
MightyKitten wrote:

Not really true. See below.
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I have a double Hardware firewall.

I loaded 2.1.5 on a friend's computer running XP Home and after doing
so, was unable to modify any of the Kerio settings except when I set
the initial rules. I uninstalled that version and installed 4.0.13 in
desperation. It works well, but note the following:

"Limited free edition
For home users, Kerio Personal Firewall 4 is available in two flavors
- the full edition and the limited free edition.
After installation, KPF works as the full edition for 30 days, after
which it becomes the limited free edition.
Limited free edition does not provide the content filtering
capabilities such as blocking pop-up windows, ads, VB scripts,
cookies, etc. and other extra features. Please see the comparison
table for more details."

The comparison table is here:

http://www.kerio.com/kpf_comparison_version.html

Looks to me like it has enough features to not be considered as
crippled.

As for me though, since I didn't sucker for the bloated, crappy
spyware known as XP when I bought this system, I will continue to run
KPF 2.1.5. (Just got done with whipping my friend's XP based system
into shape after one week of nut-busting effort. I'm a little bitter
about XP and it's 40+ "critical" and "recommended" updates at this
point.)
Click to expand...

Thanks for clearing that out, John.

MightyKitten
 
I just got a pop-notice from my Kerio Firewall saying that I have only
Four days left of the trial. I thought Kerio was free. What gives?
Click to expand...

I installed Kerio just this week. Here's what the helpfile says:


Limited Free Edition
Two editions of Kerio Personal Firewall are available: full (paid) and
free (free of charge, but limited).

The same installation package is used for both version. After
installation the product behaves as a 30-days trial version (full version
limited by time). If the product is not registered by the expiration
date, it becomes free and limited. The product becomes a full version
after license purchase and product registration (for detailed information
refer to chapter Registration).

Free (unregistered) editions are limited by the following restrictions:

It is available for personal and/or noncommercial use only.

Web content filtering, including its logs and statistics, is not
available (see chapter Web Content Filtering).

It cannot be used at Internet Gateways (refer to chapter Preferences)

Logs cannot be sent to Syslog server (details in chapter Log Options).

Configuration cannot be protected by a password and it is not possible to
access and administer the firewall remotely.
 
John Corliss <[email protected]#> wrote:
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I loaded 2.1.5 on a friend's computer running XP Home and after doing
so, was unable to modify any of the Kerio settings except when I set
the initial rules. I uninstalled that version and installed 4.0.13 in
desperation. It works well, but note the following:
Click to expand...

It works fine on my XP system.
"Limited free edition
For home users, Kerio Personal Firewall 4 is available in two flavors
- the full edition and the limited free edition.
After installation, KPF works as the full edition for 30 days, after
which it becomes the limited free edition.
Limited free edition does not provide the content filtering
capabilities such as blocking pop-up windows, ads, VB scripts,
cookies, etc. and other extra features. Please see the comparison
table for more details."
Click to expand...
The comparison table is here:

Looks to me like it has enough features to not be considered as crippled.
Click to expand...

Yes, it really should be viewed as a software firewall. If the ability
to function as a firewall is not limited then I agree it is not
crippled. All the bells and whistles are just bells and whistles.
As for me though, since I didn't sucker for the bloated, crappy
spyware known as XP when I bought this system, I will continue to run
KPF 2.1.5. (Just got done with whipping my friend's XP based system
into shape after one week of nut-busting effort. I'm a little bitter
about XP and it's 40+ "critical" and "recommended" updates at this point.)
Click to expand...

You would "think" that MS would press CD's just in time with the
critical updates to date installed. Even after running the Critical
Update CD I had several large update files to download :(
 
I loaded 2.1.5 on a friend's computer running XP Home and after
doing so, was unable to modify any of the Kerio settings except
when I set the initial rules. I uninstalled that version and
installed 4.0.13 in desperation. It works well, but note the
following:

......

As for me though, since I didn't sucker for the bloated, crappy
spyware known as XP when I bought this system, I will continue to
run KPF 2.1.5. (Just got done with whipping my friend's XP based
system into shape after one week of nut-busting effort. I'm a
little bitter about XP and it's 40+ "critical" and "recommended"
updates at this point.)
Click to expand...


I installed 2.1.5 on my wife's computer running XP home and it has been
working fine for over a year. However, I had to disable XP's firewall.
Personally, I'm not just *a little* bitter about XP...I'm VERY bitter
about it. Unfortunately, however, new PCs come with the new windows
versions and people who want to get a new system don't have the option
of getting earlier versions. I still run Win95 on my computer (much
more stable and secure than my wife's, in spite of what people say) but
I'm getting a new system because of the USB support. I would opt for
win98 but it's not available as an option from computer ventors and
I'll have to find a place that still sells it...
 
John said:
Not really true. See below.


I loaded 2.1.5 on a friend's computer running XP Home and after doing
so, was unable to modify any of the Kerio settings except when I set
the initial rules. I uninstalled that version and installed 4.0.13 in
desperation. It works well, but note the following:

"Limited free edition
For home users, Kerio Personal Firewall 4 is available in two flavors
- the full edition and the limited free edition.
After installation, KPF works as the full edition for 30 days, after
which it becomes the limited free edition.
Limited free edition does not provide the content filtering
capabilities such as blocking pop-up windows, ads, VB scripts,
cookies, etc. and other extra features. Please see the comparison
table for more details."

The comparison table is here:

http://www.kerio.com/kpf_comparison_version.html

Looks to me like it has enough features to not be considered as crippled.

As for me though, since I didn't sucker for the bloated, crappy
spyware known as XP when I bought this system, I will continue to run
KPF 2.1.5. (Just got done with whipping my friend's XP based system
into shape after one week of nut-busting effort. I'm a little bitter
about XP and it's 40+ "critical" and "recommended" updates at this point.)

--
Regards from John Corliss
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware,
nagware, shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses
or warez please.
Click to expand...

John, did you come to a judgement about which of the 40 updates are
really critical and needed for a home user? I don't use XP either, but a
relative does and I don't know which updates to tell him to download.
Installing all of them could be a disaster.

Mike Sa
 
I just got a pop-notice from my Kerio Firewall saying that I have only
Four days left of the trial. I thought Kerio was free. What gives?
Click to expand...

Kerio v2.1.5 is free.

BoB
 
Thank you both Mighty Kitten and John. Does tis mean that after the 30
days, Kerio will automatically revert/convert to the simpler form of
Kerio, or do I need to uninstall it, and download the "no extras"
version?
Click to expand...

It will automatically revert to the freeware form.



Aaron (my email is not munged!)
 
Steven said:
*crippleware*
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Ehhhhh, I don't really think so, Steven. None of the features that go
away are really critical. But I don't know if it nags a person from
that point on or not since I don't use that version.
 
John Corliss said:
Ehhhhh, I don't really think so, Steven. None of the features that go
away are really critical. But I don't know if it nags a person from
that point on or not since I don't use that version.
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I know I'm in the minority here but, AFAIAC, as soon as they
removed/disabled the features in the "free" version, it became
crippleware........ regardless of what those features were.

--

Regards

Steven Burn
Ur I.T. Mate Group
www.it-mate.co.uk

Keeping it FREE!
 
ms said:
John, did you come to a judgement about which of the 40 updates are
really critical and needed for a home user? I don't use XP either, but a
relative does and I don't know which updates to tell him to download.
Installing all of them could be a disaster.
Click to expand...

Mike, when you do the "Windows update" (or whatever XP calls it)
thing, the MS site inspects (i.e. CRAWLS INTO) your system and tells
you which ones you need. You must be online to do this.
 
Steven said:
I know I'm in the minority here but, AFAIAC, as soon as they
removed/disabled the features in the "free" version, it became
crippleware........ regardless of what those features were.
Click to expand...

Steven,
I admire your extremistic "orthodoxy". 80)>
 
John said:
Mike, when you do the "Windows update" (or whatever XP calls it)
thing, the MS site inspects (i.e. CRAWLS INTO) your system and tells
you which ones you need
Click to expand...

....tells you which ones you haven't got; 'need' is a subjective
judgement.
Nobody *needs* media player 9. :-)
 
Ehhhhh, I don't really think so, Steven. None of the features that go
away are really critical. But I don't know if it nags a person from
that point on or not since I don't use that version.
Click to expand...

Missing features in the free 4.x version...some are important (or critical
depending on deployment environment) and others are fluff:

- Missing "important" features:

Password Protected Configuration
Runs As Internet Gateway
Syslog
Remote Administration
Runs On Windows Server OS


- Missing "fluff" features:
All the content filters - referrer & cookie blocking, ad blocking, pop-up
blocking, etc.

Just my opinion, which really goes without saying :). I still use 2.1.5, by
the way.
 
John said:
Mike, when you do the "Windows update" (or whatever XP calls it)
thing, the MS site inspects (i.e. CRAWLS INTO) your system and tells
you which ones you need. You must be online to do this.
Click to expand...
Yes, I experienced that at the other guys XP computer, although I'm not
familiar with XP, there were some that I knew weren't applicable, so a
total install was not a good idea. Filtering is needed, but it takes
some research. I didn't have the time or resources on that trip to do
that homework for him.

Mike Sa
 
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