K-Meleon and IE

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I guess I'm not sure what that's supposed to prove...it
shows that the User-Agent header--the header which tells
the server what browser you are using--is sent to the site.
Now, how can the header be sent to the site if the
connection is refused ("connection refused" meaning that
the remote computer has that port closed).

I didn't mean to indicate it _proved_ any thing.
What I'm saying is: That it is all happening so fast that the
useragent is sent then the connection request is denied,
possibly.
Useful and interesting-looking, but not relevant to the
conversation as far as I can see.

Probably, I wasn't specific enough.
From the following page:
http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/freeware/viewhead/
Given a hypertext transfer protocol URL, this program shows the
headers that the server sends in response to a HEAD request.
These headers include valuable information, such as
identification of the remote server's software, remote time and
date, the MIME type and size of a file, and various other pieces
of information. Most web browsers today don't let you see the
information that ViewHEAD returns.

Maybe it is the Get response that is necessary. I don't recall.

Using the folowing proggie, or url would let him evaluate the
response from the server in question to the two browsers.
http://www.pc-tools.net/files/win32/freeware/vhead105.zip
http://www.rexswain.com/httpview.html
 
I didn't mean to indicate it _proved_ any thing.
What I'm saying is: That it is all happening so fast that the
useragent is sent then the connection request is denied,
possibly.

Request denied is the generic error message used when a program tries
to connect to a port which isn't open. For example:

C:\>netstat -an|grep -c :1111
0

C:\>nc -v -v localhost 1111
localhost [127.0.0.1] 1111 (?): connection refused
sent 0, rcvd 0: NOTSOCK

Connection refused = port not available
Probably, I wasn't specific enough. *snip*
Using the folowing proggie, or url would let him evaluate the
response from the server in question to the two browsers.
http://www.pc-tools.net/files/win32/freeware/vhead105.zip
http://www.rexswain.com/httpview.html

Ahh, I see...that does make it a bit more clear.
 
I didn't mean to indicate it _proved_ any thing.
What I'm saying is: That it is all happening so fast that
the useragent is sent then the connection request is
denied, possibly.

Request denied is the generic error message used when a
program tries to connect to a port which isn't open. For
example:

C:\>netstat -an|grep -c :1111
0

C:\>nc -v -v localhost 1111
localhost [127.0.0.1] 1111 (?): connection refused
sent 0, rcvd 0: NOTSOCK

Connection refused = port not available
Probably, I wasn't specific enough. *snip*
Using the folowing proggie, or url would let him evaluate
the response from the server in question to the two
browsers.
http://www.pc-tools.net/files/win32/freeware/vhead105.zip
http://www.rexswain.com/httpview.html

Ahh, I see...that does make it a bit more clear.

Another example that will cause that response from K-Meleon is:
If e.g. one were using Outpost firewall, or some other, and
meleon wound up block by it, by default.
 
DC said:
Mozilla is much more customizable for sure. But one important (to me)
feature in IE that doesn't exist in Mozilla is moveable toolbars. I
hope the Mozilla/Firebird developers add that feature soon.

You can move pretty much *any* of Firebird's[1] toolbar items around.
Suggest you take another look.

[1] Firebird only -- not the Moz suite.

I'm talking about moving the actual toolbars, not the toolbar items. Can I
move the bookmarks toolbar or Moz's googlebar to the same line as the one
with File, Edit, View, etc.? Or to the buttons (back, forward, home,
refresh, etc.) toolbar? How?
 
I'm talking about moving the actual toolbars, not the toolbar items. Can I
move the bookmarks toolbar or Moz's googlebar to the same line as the one
with File, Edit, View, etc.? Or to the buttons (back, forward, home,
refresh, etc.) toolbar? How?

Yeah.

You just have to right-click a toolbar and select Customize. Note that everything
in Firebird's icon handling is object oriented. You can't move a toolbar, you have
to move the /objects/ in them (be they icons, the address bar, the menu or the
bookmarks toolbar). The end-result will be the same.

Most everything is drag-and-dropable. Give it a try. Perhaps you'll end up with
a few empty toolbars, but you can quickly hide those.
 
Jordan wrote in said:
DC wrote:
[...]
You can move pretty much *any* of Firebird's[1] toolbar items around.
Suggest you take another look.
[1] Firebird only -- not the Moz suite.
I'm talking about moving the actual toolbars, not the toolbar items. Can I
move the bookmarks toolbar or Moz's googlebar to the same line as the one
with File, Edit, View, etc.? Or to the buttons (back, forward, home,
refresh, etc.) toolbar? How?

What Rhexis said. You can, item by item.
 
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