joysticks,game controllers not support with my xp computer

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I could not track down all the info for everyone else, but on the few I could
here is what I found. On my PC I had XP SP1 and no HID, I am now running XP
SP2 and still do not have HID. My room mate has XP SP1 and has HID on a
different brand PC. Some Dells and some Gateways seem to have the same
problem I do but I could not determine if they were using SP1 or SP2. Not
sure about if anyone ran System File Checker.

Chris H. said:
Out of curiosity, how many of these machines are running XP SP2 and how
many on SP1? Is there a commonality among computer brands? How are the 88
individuals viewing things in Device Manager? Is it by Devices by type,
Devices by connection, Resources by type or Resources by connection? Have
any of these folks run System File Checker?
--
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Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC
Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
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Pred said:
I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After
reading
and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the
missing
HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles
do
not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time
and
effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and
which
PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it
that
I found, it was lacking HID.

Jimmy S. said:
Hi Pred,

Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)

You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
MS Assisted Support:
http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any
rights.
_________________________________________________________

| The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
| drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller
to the
| usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked
on
| update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their
drivers.
| I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller
and
| found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I
tried
| starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows
and
| everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena
site and
| downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot
see HID
| under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
| EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
|
| "Jimmy S." wrote:
|
| > Hi Pred,
| >
| > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
| > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
| >
| > --
| > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site:
http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > Microsoft's Game Support Center:
http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > MS Assisted Support:
http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any
rights.
| > _________________________________________________________
| >
| > |I already tried that.
| > |
| > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > |
| > | > Pred,
| > | >
| > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
| > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
| > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
| > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
| > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
| > | >
| > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell /
User
| > | > Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | >
| > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site:
http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center:
http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > MS Assisted Support:
http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer
any rights.
| > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | >
| > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and
effort but none
| > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to
get game
| > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why
do some PCs
| > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up
Dual Shock
| > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users
that share my
| > | > | problem.
| > | > |
| > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the
specifications
| > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
| > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell
/ User
| > | > | > Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site:
http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center:
http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > MS Assisted Support:
http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
confer any rights.
| > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and
VT6212 and also
| > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2,
they have XP
| > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and
clicked on each USB
| > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
| > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP
Shell / User
| > | > | > | > Jimmy S.
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site:
http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center:
http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support:
http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I
confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me
the HID catagory under
| > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the
game controllers to
| > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the
MS site.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure
you are running new
| > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers
and game controllers.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
| > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | > -----
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,
and confers no rights
| > | > | > | > | >
message
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
| > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other
devices like USB
| > | > | > | > | > >> printers
| > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
| > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game
controllers BEFORE you
| > | > | > | > | > >> connect
| > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
| > | > | > | > | > >> --
| > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
| > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
| > | > | > | > | > >>
message
| > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller.
It works fine on my
| > | > | > | > | > >> >98
| > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my
XP based pc's. None
| > | > | > | > | > >> > of
| > | > | > | > | > >> > my
| > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get
HID for XP Home?
| > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
| > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port
devices, since the form
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on
Windows XP - however, just
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control
Panel/Game Controllers and
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like
Microsoft SideWinder)
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
| > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part
of Windows XP and will
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose
the old "profile"
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game
Controllers, but if the games
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save
them there.
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
| > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone -
 
The dual shock works fine when it is connected to my room mates PC with XP
that shows HID. A USB mouse does NOT work on my PC, but other USB devices
work fine.

Jimmy S. said:
Hi Pred,

Do you have a working USB mouse attached to your computer?
Does the Dual Shock work if you connect it to another PC?
Have you upgraded to SP 2?
Try the suggestions in this article as well:
http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

|I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
| store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
| about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After reading
| and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the missing
| HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles do
| not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
| lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
| mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
| listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
| shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time and
| effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and which
| PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it that
| I found, it was lacking HID.
|
| "Jimmy S." wrote:
|
| > Hi Pred,
| >
| > Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
| > for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)
| >
| > You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
| > Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?
| >
| > --
| > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > _________________________________________________________
| >
| > | The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
| > | drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller to the
| > | usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked on
| > | update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their drivers.
| > | I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller and
| > | found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I tried
| > | starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows and
| > | everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena site and
| > | downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot see HID
| > | under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
| > | EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
| > |
| > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Pred,
| > | >
| > | > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
| > | > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | >
| > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | >
| > | > |I already tried that.
| > | > |
| > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Pred,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
| > | > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
| > | > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
| > | > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
| > | > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and effort but none
| > | > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to get game
| > | > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why do some PCs
| > | > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up Dual Shock
| > | > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users that share my
| > | > | > | problem.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the specifications
| > | > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
| > | > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and VT6212 and also
| > | > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2, they have XP
| > | > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and clicked on each USB
| > | > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
| > | > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me the HID catagory under
| > | > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the game controllers to
| > | > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the MS site.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure you are running new
| > | > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers and game controllers.
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
| > | > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
| > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | > | > -----
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
| > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other devices like USB
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> printers
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
| > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game controllers BEFORE you
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> connect
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
| > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller. It works fine on my
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >98
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my XP based pc's. None
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> > of
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> > my
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get HID for XP Home?
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port devices, since the form
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on Windows XP - however, just
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control Panel/Game Controllers and
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like Microsoft SideWinder)
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part of Windows XP and will
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose the old "profile"
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game Controllers, but if the games
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save them there.
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone -
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > but in other xp computer it's work
| > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > in my xp computer have a problem with human interface device
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Hi Pred,

If the USB mouse isn't working, try these tips:
http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

| The dual shock works fine when it is connected to my room mates PC with XP
| that shows HID. A USB mouse does NOT work on my PC, but other USB devices
| work fine.
|
| "Jimmy S." wrote:
|
| > Hi Pred,
| >
| > Do you have a working USB mouse attached to your computer?
| > Does the Dual Shock work if you connect it to another PC?
| > Have you upgraded to SP 2?
| > Try the suggestions in this article as well:
| > http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
| >
| > --
| > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > _________________________________________________________
| >
| > |I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
| > | store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
| > | about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After reading
| > | and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the missing
| > | HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles do
| > | not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
| > | lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
| > | mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
| > | listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
| > | shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time and
| > | effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and which
| > | PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it that
| > | I found, it was lacking HID.
| > |
| > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Pred,
| > | >
| > | > Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
| > | > for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)
| > | >
| > | > You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
| > | > Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | >
| > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | >
| > | > | The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
| > | > | drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller to the
| > | > | usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked on
| > | > | update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their drivers.
| > | > | I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller and
| > | > | found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I tried
| > | > | starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows and
| > | > | everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena site and
| > | > | downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot see HID
| > | > | under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
| > | > | EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
| > | > |
| > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
| > | > | > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |I already tried that.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Pred,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
| > | > | > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
| > | > | > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
| > | > | > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
| > | > | > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and effort but none
| > | > | > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to get game
| > | > | > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why do some PCs
| > | > | > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up Dual Shock
| > | > | > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users that share my
| > | > | > | > | problem.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the specifications
| > | > | > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
| > | > | > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and VT6212 and also
| > | > | > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2, they have XP
| > | > | > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and clicked on each USB
| > | > | > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
| > | > | > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me the HID catagory under
| > | > | > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the game controllers to
| > | > | > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the MS site.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure you are running new
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers and game controllers.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > -----
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other devices like USB
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> printers
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game controllers BEFORE you
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> connect
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller. It works fine on my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >98
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my XP based pc's. None
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > of
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get HID for XP Home?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port devices, since the form
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on Windows XP - however, just
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control Panel/Game Controllers and
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like Microsoft SideWinder)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part of Windows XP and will
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose the old "profile"
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game Controllers, but if the games
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save them there.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone -
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > but in other xp computer it's work
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > in my xp computer have a problem with human interface device
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > what 's the human interface
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
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I went to that website and it was of no help, thank you anyway though.

Jimmy S. said:
Hi Pred,

If the USB mouse isn't working, try these tips:
http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

| The dual shock works fine when it is connected to my room mates PC with XP
| that shows HID. A USB mouse does NOT work on my PC, but other USB devices
| work fine.
|
| "Jimmy S." wrote:
|
| > Hi Pred,
| >
| > Do you have a working USB mouse attached to your computer?
| > Does the Dual Shock work if you connect it to another PC?
| > Have you upgraded to SP 2?
| > Try the suggestions in this article as well:
| > http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
| >
| > --
| > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > _________________________________________________________
| >
| > |I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
| > | store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
| > | about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After reading
| > | and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the missing
| > | HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles do
| > | not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
| > | lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
| > | mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
| > | listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
| > | shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time and
| > | effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and which
| > | PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it that
| > | I found, it was lacking HID.
| > |
| > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Pred,
| > | >
| > | > Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
| > | > for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)
| > | >
| > | > You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
| > | > Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | >
| > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | >
| > | > | The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
| > | > | drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller to the
| > | > | usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked on
| > | > | update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their drivers.
| > | > | I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller and
| > | > | found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I tried
| > | > | starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows and
| > | > | everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena site and
| > | > | downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot see HID
| > | > | under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
| > | > | EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
| > | > |
| > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
| > | > | > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |I already tried that.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Pred,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
| > | > | > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
| > | > | > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
| > | > | > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
| > | > | > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and effort but none
| > | > | > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to get game
| > | > | > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why do some PCs
| > | > | > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up Dual Shock
| > | > | > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users that share my
| > | > | > | > | problem.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the specifications
| > | > | > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
| > | > | > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and VT6212 and also
| > | > | > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2, they have XP
| > | > | > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and clicked on each USB
| > | > | > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
| > | > | > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me the HID catagory under
| > | > | > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the game controllers to
| > | > | > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the MS site.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure you are running new
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers and game controllers.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > -----
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other devices like USB
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> printers
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game controllers BEFORE you
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> connect
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller. It works fine on my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >98
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my XP based pc's. None
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > of
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get HID for XP Home?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port devices, since the form
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on Windows XP - however, just
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control Panel/Game Controllers and
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like Microsoft SideWinder)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part of Windows XP and will
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose the old "profile"
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game Controllers, but if the games
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save them there.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone -
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > but in other xp computer it's work
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > in my xp computer have a problem with human interface device
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > what 's the human interface
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
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| >
 
I have stopped trying to fix the missing HID problem for a while since I
became frustrated with it. I still cannot get the files the website says I
need. The listed files it says are needed are

Hidusb.sys

Hidclass.sys

Hidparse.sys

Mouhid.sys

I no longer have access to a computer that has HID listed under device
manager. Any ideas?


Jimmy S. said:
Hi Pred,

If the USB mouse isn't working, try these tips:
http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

| The dual shock works fine when it is connected to my room mates PC with XP
| that shows HID. A USB mouse does NOT work on my PC, but other USB devices
| work fine.
|
| "Jimmy S." wrote:
|
| > Hi Pred,
| >
| > Do you have a working USB mouse attached to your computer?
| > Does the Dual Shock work if you connect it to another PC?
| > Have you upgraded to SP 2?
| > Try the suggestions in this article as well:
| > http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
| >
| > --
| > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > _________________________________________________________
| >
| > |I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
| > | store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
| > | about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After reading
| > | and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the missing
| > | HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles do
| > | not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
| > | lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
| > | mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
| > | listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
| > | shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time and
| > | effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and which
| > | PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it that
| > | I found, it was lacking HID.
| > |
| > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Pred,
| > | >
| > | > Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
| > | > for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)
| > | >
| > | > You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
| > | > Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | >
| > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | >
| > | > | The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
| > | > | drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller to the
| > | > | usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked on
| > | > | update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their drivers.
| > | > | I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller and
| > | > | found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I tried
| > | > | starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows and
| > | > | everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena site and
| > | > | downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot see HID
| > | > | under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
| > | > | EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
| > | > |
| > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
| > | > | > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > |I already tried that.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Pred,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
| > | > | > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
| > | > | > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
| > | > | > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
| > | > | > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and effort but none
| > | > | > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to get game
| > | > | > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why do some PCs
| > | > | > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up Dual Shock
| > | > | > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users that share my
| > | > | > | > | problem.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the specifications
| > | > | > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
| > | > | > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and VT6212 and also
| > | > | > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2, they have XP
| > | > | > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and clicked on each USB
| > | > | > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
| > | > | > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me the HID catagory under
| > | > | > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the game controllers to
| > | > | > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the MS site.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure you are running new
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers and game controllers.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > -----
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other devices like USB
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> printers
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game controllers BEFORE you
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> connect
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller. It works fine on my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >98
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my XP based pc's. None
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > of
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get HID for XP Home?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port devices, since the form
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on Windows XP - however, just
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control Panel/Game Controllers and
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like Microsoft SideWinder)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part of Windows XP and will
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose the old "profile"
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game Controllers, but if the games
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save them there.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone -
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > but in other xp computer it's work
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > in my xp computer have a problem with human interface device
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > what 's the human interface
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
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Hi Pred,

You can extract those files from the I386 directory on your C: drive
or on your Windows XP CD. Use MSConfig to extract the files. :-)

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
MS Games Help and Support Center: http://support.microsoft.com/?pr=gms
My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

|I have stopped trying to fix the missing HID problem for a while since I
| became frustrated with it. I still cannot get the files the website says I
| need. The listed files it says are needed are
|
| Hidusb.sys
|
| Hidclass.sys
|
| Hidparse.sys
|
| Mouhid.sys
|
| I no longer have access to a computer that has HID listed under device
| manager. Any ideas?
|
|
| "Jimmy S." wrote:
|
| > Hi Pred,
| >
| > If the USB mouse isn't working, try these tips:
| > http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
| >
| > --
| > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > _________________________________________________________
| >
| > | The dual shock works fine when it is connected to my room mates PC with XP
| > | that shows HID. A USB mouse does NOT work on my PC, but other USB devices
| > | work fine.
| > |
| > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Pred,
| > | >
| > | > Do you have a working USB mouse attached to your computer?
| > | > Does the Dual Shock work if you connect it to another PC?
| > | > Have you upgraded to SP 2?
| > | > Try the suggestions in this article as well:
| > | > http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | >
| > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | >
| > | > |I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
| > | > | store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
| > | > | about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After reading
| > | > | and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the missing
| > | > | HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles do
| > | > | not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
| > | > | lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
| > | > | mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
| > | > | listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
| > | > | shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time and
| > | > | effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and which
| > | > | PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it that
| > | > | I found, it was lacking HID.
| > | > |
| > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
| > | > | > for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
| > | > | > Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
| > | > | > | drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller to the
| > | > | > | usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked on
| > | > | > | update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their drivers.
| > | > | > | I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller and
| > | > | > | found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I tried
| > | > | > | starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows and
| > | > | > | everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena site and
| > | > | > | downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot see HID
| > | > | > | under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
| > | > | > | EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
| > | > | > | > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |I already tried that.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > Pred,
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
| > | > | > | > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
| > | > | > | > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
| > | > | > | > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
| > | > | > | > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and effort but none
| > | > | > | > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to get game
| > | > | > | > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why do some PCs
| > | > | > | > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up Dual Shock
| > | > | > | > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users that share my
| > | > | > | > | > | problem.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the specifications
| > | > | > | > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
| > | > | > | > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and VT6212 and also
| > | > | > | > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2, they have XP
| > | > | > | > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and clicked on each USB
| > | > | > | > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me the HID catagory under
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the game controllers to
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the MS site.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure you are running new
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers and game controllers.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > -----
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other devices like USB
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> printers
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game controllers BEFORE you
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> connect
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller. It works fine on my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >98
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my XP based pc's. None
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > of
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get HID for XP Home?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port devices, since the form
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on Windows XP - however, just
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control Panel/Game Controllers and
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like Microsoft SideWinder)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part of Windows XP and will
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose the old "profile"
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game Controllers, but if the games
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save them there.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone -
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > but in other xp computer it's work
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > in my xp computer have a problem with human interface device
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > what 's the human interface
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I will try that again, I tried that when I had checked out the website
elotouch.com.


Jimmy S. said:
Hi Pred,

You can extract those files from the I386 directory on your C: drive
or on your Windows XP CD. Use MSConfig to extract the files. :-)

--
Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com

Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
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My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
_________________________________________________________

|I have stopped trying to fix the missing HID problem for a while since I
| became frustrated with it. I still cannot get the files the website says I
| need. The listed files it says are needed are
|
| Hidusb.sys
|
| Hidclass.sys
|
| Hidparse.sys
|
| Mouhid.sys
|
| I no longer have access to a computer that has HID listed under device
| manager. Any ideas?
|
|
| "Jimmy S." wrote:
|
| > Hi Pred,
| >
| > If the USB mouse isn't working, try these tips:
| > http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
| >
| > --
| > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| >
| > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > _________________________________________________________
| >
| > | The dual shock works fine when it is connected to my room mates PC with XP
| > | that shows HID. A USB mouse does NOT work on my PC, but other USB devices
| > | work fine.
| > |
| > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Pred,
| > | >
| > | > Do you have a working USB mouse attached to your computer?
| > | > Does the Dual Shock work if you connect it to another PC?
| > | > Have you upgraded to SP 2?
| > | > Try the suggestions in this article as well:
| > | > http://www.elotouch.com/support/webtech/universal_no_hid.asp
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | >
| > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | >
| > | > |I found the other people with this problem by going to the website of the
| > | > | store where I purchased the dual shock controller. There are 88 remarks
| > | > | about attempting to get XP and dual shocks to work together. After reading
| > | > | and doing more research on my own that is how I found out about the missing
| > | > | HID cat under device manager. Most of the people that are having troubles do
| > | > | not know to even look for HID but the few that I could track down all were
| > | > | lacking HID under device manager. If you read many of the complaints they
| > | > | mention it does not work with XP, it does work with XP if you have HID
| > | > | listed. I found 88 complaints about dual shock not working under dual
| > | > | shock reviews under the ebgames website. I have spent considerable time and
| > | > | effort tracking down which PCs using XP that could use a dual shock and which
| > | > | PCs using XP that could not. Everytime an XP based PC could not use it that
| > | > | I found, it was lacking HID.
| > | > |
| > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Thanks for posting that information! It's going to make it easier
| > | > | > for everyone reading this thread to understand the problem. :-)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > You also say that some others have reported the same issue;
| > | > | > Could you post those links so we can see what's been tried?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | The USB ports all worked with various other hardware, I installed the
| > | > | > | drivers for the dual shock before connecting the dual shock controller to the
| > | > | > | usb port. I went to device manager and check the USB ports and clicked on
| > | > | > | update drivers, I went to the viaarena.com site and downloaded their drivers.
| > | > | > | I went online to check on known problems with the dual shock controller and
| > | > | > | found that dozens of other people have the same problem I have. I tried
| > | > | > | starting all over and wiping the hard drive and reinstalling windows and
| > | > | > | everything else. Nothing helped, I then went again to the viaarena site and
| > | > | > | downloaded their drivers and it still does not help. I still cannot see HID
| > | > | > | under device manager. I have XP home service pack 2 installed on an
| > | > | > | EMachines W2646 with 1 gig ram.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > What did you try exactly? Can you detail the steps and the results?
| > | > | > | > Are you now able to see HID entries in your Device Manager?
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > |I already tried that.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > Pred,
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > You only need to follow my last advice and install the drivers.
| > | > | > | > | > The only thing you have to do is determine which version you
| > | > | > | > | > need to install. If you don't want to go through the trouble of
| > | > | > | > | > looking up the documentation about your system for yourself,
| > | > | > | > | > you can just try one of the 2 drivers instead.
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > You have a 50/50 chance to get the right driver the first time!
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | Guess no one can help me on this. Thanks for all yout ime and effort but none
| > | > | > | > | > | of your advice worked. Looks like I have to switch to a Mac to get game
| > | > | > | > | > | controllers to work. I really don't know what else to do. Why do some PCs
| > | > | > | > | > | that have XP home have the HID cat, and some don't ? Look up Dual Shock
| > | > | > | > | > | troubles and you will find dozens and dozens of other XP users that share my
| > | > | > | > | > | problem.
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Compare the specifications of the drivers to the specifications
| > | > | > | > | > | > of your computer system to ensure you're installing the right
| > | > | > | > | > | > ones. Check the documentation that came with your PC. :-)
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
| > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | How do I know which driver to download? It has VT6202 and VT6212 and also
| > | > | > | > | > | > | says to NOT get them confused. I have XP service pack 2, they have XP
| > | > | > | > | > | > | service pack 1 as needed. I went to device manager and clicked on each USB
| > | > | > | > | > | > | cat. and clicked update already.
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | "Jimmy S." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Hi Pred,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > You can download the USB 2.0 drivers from VIA at:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > http://www.viaarena.com/Default.aspx?PageID=2
| > | > | > | > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, Windows XP MVP Shell / User
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Jimmy S. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Visit my MSN Zone.com and Gaming Help Site: http://mvps.org/nibblesnbits
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft's Game Support Center: http://www.support.microsoft.com/games
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > MS Assisted Support: http://support.microsoft.com/select/?target=assistance
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > My advice is donated "AS IS" without warranty; nor do I confer any rights.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > _________________________________________________________
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | How do I get the newer drivers and will they give me the HID catagory under
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | device manager that I have been told is needed for the game controllers to
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | function. I have XP home and all the updates from the MS site.
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | "Joshua Smith [MSFT]" wrote:
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > If you have VIA USB controllers you need to make sure you are running new
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > drivers. There was an issue with older VIA drivers and game controllers.
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Joshua Smith
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > OpenGL Test Lab
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Microsoft
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > -----
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > Yes on both accounts.
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are your USB ports KNOWN to be working with other devices like USB
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> printers
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> etc?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Are you installing the software for the game controllers BEFORE you
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> connect
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> it to the PC?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> Cari
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> (MS-MVP Printing & Imaging)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >I tried installing a dual shock game controller. It works fine on my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >98
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > based lap top but it does not work at all on my XP based pc's. None
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > of
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > my
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > pc based machines has HID listed. How do I get HID for XP Home?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> > "Chris H." wrote:
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Are you using game port of USB controllers?
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> There are no older drivers for the game port devices, since the form
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> which they were written is not supported on Windows XP - however, just
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> plug
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> in the controller, then go into Control Panel/Game Controllers and
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> select
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Add, then scroll to the proper device (like Microsoft SideWinder)
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> listing,
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> highlight it and then OK your way out.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >>
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> The correct drivers necessary are already part of Windows XP and will
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> be
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> installed for you by the system. You will lose the old "profile"
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> capabilities formerly available in Game Controllers, but if the games
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> themselves support the settings, you can save them there.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> --
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Chris H.
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Associate Expert
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> Expert Zone -
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| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > but in other xp computer it's work
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > in my xp computer have a problem with human interface device
| > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > >> >> > what 's the human interface
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