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Kerry Brown
I agree. You get what you pay for. I could build a computer to that price
point but it would not be one I would care to support.
point but it would not be one I would care to support.
Ted Zieglar said:I'm planning on building my next computer, but not to save money. No way
can
I buy parts for the same price as the big boys. I'll build my computer for
the feeling of accomplishment, since I used to be a hardware klutz.
The part that everyone is missing is that the O/P likes the $400 price of
the e-Machine.
I don't know about others, but I would be hard pressed to build a machine of
comparable specs for anywhere near that price using off the shelf
components. Remember, the manufacturers buy components by the hundreds of
thousands and likely pay $20-25 for a motherboard and another $20 for a CPU.
Gator said:Is this a good computer? Emachine T3302
Some of the parts used by the big boys in their 'deals' are the cheapest and
worst.. you get what you pay for in this world..
at least by building your own, you know what your are getting..
I wouldn't have it any other way..
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NoNoBadDog! said:\
Dell does not offer AMD processors, so going from the model posted to a Dell
will be a step backwards.
Richard said:I have had "many" people bring me a brand new e-machine computer still
sealed in the box. I spend a couple of hours cleaning it of the un-necessary
garbage and set it up for them, adding the necessary anti-spyware and
anti-virus programs. When I give it back to them it is set up to do
everything automatically, as long as they leave it running on Friday night.
That is when I have everything scheduled to run, starting at 1:00 am.
I have not had any more of these come back to me than Dell's, Compaq's, HP's
etc.
If the e-Machine will do what you want, go for it. You will likely want a
newer computer in 2-3 years anyway, no matter what brand you buy.
Not a big step, for stated purpose: photos priting and 'net surfing
it'll be fine. AMD is for gamers, intel for business. But neither is a
bad chip.
NoNoBadDog! said:AMD is not for gamers. It will outperform Intel in every category,
business included. Please refer to the following:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10442_7-6389077-1.html
You will see that AMD beat Intel in *EVERY* category. That is why
AMD now sells 65% of the business machines (servers and workstations)
sold in the U.S. That is why dell lost 38% of its business clients
last year, and so far 19% this year.
Please do not make such blanket statements such as "AMD is for
Gamers" and "Intel is for business". Both statements are inaccurate.
Bobby
NoNoBadDog! said:I administrate a network of just over 200 computers. The majority of
these computers are AMD based. I have never had *ANY* stability
issues with *ANY* of the AMD machines. I have never had *ANY* issues
with software compatibility.
I have never had *ANY* issues with any updates. I cannot understand
how anyone can claim that Intel is inherently *more stable* than AMD.
I feel sorry for your customers...sometimes AMD is a better fit. If
you make it a practice to recommend only Intel for business, you are
doing your customers a great disservice.
Many of the largest corporations in America are switching to AMD *FOR
STABILITY*. Google, GM and NASA are recent examples.
I am not saying that Intel in not appropriate in some instances, but
with each generation AMD becomes more and more the system of choice.
Bobby
Kerry said:I was making a general statement. I always give my customers a choice. The
last few servers I built had AMD Opteron CPUs. I have also sold many AMD
based desktop systems to businesses. I'll rephrase my statement.
In general I have found desktop boards, especially all in one solutions,
with Intel chipsets to be more stable in a business environment than SIS,
nForce, or Via based boards in that order with SIS being the least stable.
It has nothing to do with the CPU but everything to do with the chipset,
particularly with USB, onboard video, IDE and RAID drivers. This is my
personal experience which while numbering in the many hundreds to thousands
is probably not a statistically valid sample. It is certainly possible to
build a very stable system with an AMD CPU. My experience shows me that I
will have to update the motherboard drivers more often to keep it stable as
Windows and other programs are updated. Your experience may lead you to a
different conclusion.
Kerry said:I was making a general statement. I always give my customers a choice. The
last few servers I built had AMD Opteron CPUs. I have also sold many AMD
based desktop systems to businesses. I'll rephrase my statement.
In general I have found desktop boards, especially all in one solutions,
with Intel chipsets to be more stable in a business environment than SIS,
nForce, or Via based boards in that order with SIS being the least stable.
It has nothing to do with the CPU but everything to do with the chipset,
particularly with USB, onboard video, IDE and RAID drivers. This is my
personal experience which while numbering in the many hundreds to thousands
is probably not a statistically valid sample. It is certainly possible to
build a very stable system with an AMD CPU. My experience shows me that I
will have to update the motherboard drivers more often to keep it stable as
Windows and other programs are updated. Your experience may lead you to a
different conclusion.