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Bill or Lou Ann

Question for the group

I run Norton Anti-virus on my main computer that is connected to the net
via cable modem..... and the Master computer for a 3 machine home network
that uses MS Internet Connection Sharing - question -

Will I need AV software on the other 2 machines, or will the Norton on the
big machine catch everything.....

Or could I get away with Norton on the main machine and AVG or something
free on the other two??

assuming the e-mail that comes via Outlook Express is read only from the
Norton equipped machine........ in the past re-upping Norton at one
system would allow all 3 to recieve updates...........

Bill
 
Bill:

You need AV software on "all" computers and I also suggest that you dump MS ICS and obtain a
Cable/DSL Router such as the Linksys BEFSR41. The Router will act as a simplistic FireWall
and provide many more advantages.

Dave



| Question for the group
|
| I run Norton Anti-virus on my main computer that is connected to the net
| via cable modem..... and the Master computer for a 3 machine home network
| that uses MS Internet Connection Sharing - question -
|
| Will I need AV software on the other 2 machines, or will the Norton on the
| big machine catch everything.....
|
| Or could I get away with Norton on the main machine and AVG or something
| free on the other two??
|
| assuming the e-mail that comes via Outlook Express is read only from the
| Norton equipped machine........ in the past re-upping Norton at one
| system would allow all 3 to recieve updates...........
|
| Bill
|
|
 
David H. Lipman said:
Bill:

You need AV software on "all" computers and I also suggest that you dump MS ICS and obtain a
Cable/DSL Router such as the Linksys BEFSR41. The Router will act as a simplistic FireWall
and provide many more advantages.
Click to expand...
I use a Belkin router. It came with NAT (Network Address Translation)
which is quite effective at hindering virus and other nastys along with the
firewall contained in the belkins firmware it makes an adiquate system as
any other to safeguard your system.
One other benifit of using a router instead of the Windows ICS is that
any one computer can be online by it's self without the need to have the
machine which ICS is running on also on. Correct me if I am wrong (but I
know I am not on this about ICS); but you have to always have the main
system using the ICS in order for the other two to acess the web.
 
That's correct. The ICS PC needs to be on and it consumes much more power than a SOHO
Router. Another advantage is the device brings OS independence into the equation. This
means that *any* TCP/IP compliant OS, device or appliance can be connected on the LAN side
of the Router. This could mean; SCO Unix, a Microsoft XBox or a Playstation/2.

Dave




|
| | > Bill:
| >
| > You need AV software on "all" computers and I also suggest that you dump
| MS ICS and obtain a
| > Cable/DSL Router such as the Linksys BEFSR41. The Router will act as a
| simplistic FireWall
| > and provide many more advantages.
| >
| I use a Belkin router. It came with NAT (Network Address Translation)
| which is quite effective at hindering virus and other nastys along with the
| firewall contained in the belkins firmware it makes an adiquate system as
| any other to safeguard your system.
| One other benifit of using a router instead of the Windows ICS is that
| any one computer can be online by it's self without the need to have the
| machine which ICS is running on also on. Correct me if I am wrong (but I
| know I am not on this about ICS); but you have to always have the main
| system using the ICS in order for the other two to acess the web.
|
|
 
OK - another question, then.. I have a Voice over IP program I use on the
main machine - works fine... however it will not work across the network -
would I be able to open individual ports with the router setup you describe?

Bill
 
Yes.

You can put the IP address of the VoIP PC/device in the DMZ or you can forward ports to the
VoIP PC/device IP.

Dave



| OK - another question, then.. I have a Voice over IP program I use on the
| main machine - works fine... however it will not work across the network -
| would I be able to open individual ports with the router setup you describe?
|
| Bill
|
|
| >
| > | I use a Belkin router. It came with NAT (Network Address Translation)
| > | which is quite effective at hindering virus and other nastys along with
| the
| > | firewall contained in the belkins firmware it makes an adiquate system
| as
| > | any other to safeguard your system.
| > | One other benifit of using a router instead of the Windows ICS is
| that
| > | any one computer can be online by it's self without the need to have the
| > | machine which ICS is running on also on. Correct me if I am wrong (but
| I
| > | know I am not on this about ICS); but you have to always have the main
| > | system using the ICS in order for the other two to acess the web.
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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We do that all the time...
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<reply to obvious troll and not a very good one at that>
*You* could not correct the stupidest person in the universe; because in
order to do that you would need to be smarter then they, and seeing as how
you *are* the stupidest person in the known universe that makes it
impossable. You are not even smart enough to correct yourself when you are
wrong so how can you assume you can correct someone else
</reply to obvious troll and not a very good one at that>


btw,

I would not have posted a responce to your post at all if it were not for
the this time of year being good will to all, even assinine two celled
brain retards like yourself
 
Header snippet:
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From: "Sugien" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.anti-virus,alt.comp.virus
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I could have sworn there was a self imposed boycott of posting in one of
these groups (don't remember which) by the person who cross posted this.
 
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*You* could not correct the stupidest person in the
universe; because in order to do that you would need
to be smarter then they...
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I would not have posted a responce to your post at
all if it were not for the this time of year being
good will to all...
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Response. R-E-S-P-O-N-S-E. Response.
...even assinine two celled brain retards like
yourself
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Asinine. A-S-I-N-I-N-E. Asinine.

Now, you were saying, Dimbulb? <snicker>

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but you have to always have the main
system using the ICS in order for the other two to acess the web.
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ics has to be enabled and running (obviously) but the main system
doesn't have to be using it. It just needs to be on.


Jim.
 
Another advantage is the device brings OS independence into the equation. This
means that *any* TCP/IP compliant OS, device or appliance can be connected on the LAN side
of the Router.
Click to expand...

Microsoft ICS will share with another operating system so it's not
another advantage.


Jim.
 
Bart Bailey said:
I could have sworn there was a self imposed boycott of posting in one of
these groups (don't remember which) by the person who cross posted this.
Click to expand...

The problem is that the self-imposed boycott you speak of was imposed by a dimbulb
so dim that he did not understand the implications of the boycott.

In turn, that means he was guaranteed to break the boycott, so this post of his
should not be at all surprising to anyone not so dim as he...
 
Bart Bailey said:
Header snippet:
---begin---
From: "Sugien" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.anti-virus,alt.comp.virus
---end---

I could have sworn there was a self imposed boycott of posting in one of
these groups (don't remember which) by the person who cross posted this.
Click to expand...


I didn't cross post, it is only that because of it being holidays I didn't
check to see and sure enough someone crossposted and I forgot to remove it,
but I will try and correct this in the future, just like I am doing with
this one
 
James Egan said:
ics has to be enabled and running (obviously) but the main system
doesn't have to be using it. It just needs to be on.


Jim.
Click to expand...

That is what I was saying, iow, why use a system that requires you to have 2
systems running if you wish to only use the one that doesn't have ICS
installed and running you still have to have that machine running in order
to use any other machine online
 
The last time I played with that software solution (years ago) it required you to run a
wizard and install software on a floppy. Each PC using ICS had to be setup from that
floppy.

Dave



| On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 00:49:56 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
|
| > Another advantage is the device brings OS independence into the equation. This
| >means that *any* TCP/IP compliant OS, device or appliance can be connected on the LAN
side
| >of the Router.
|
| Microsoft ICS will share with another operating system so it's not
| another advantage.
|
|
| Jim.
|
 
The last time I played with that software solution (years ago) it required you to run a
wizard and install software on a floppy. Each PC using ICS had to be setup from that
floppy.
Click to expand...

The ics wizard is just for the networking newbie.

All it does is change the tcp/ip settings on the clients so that the
ip address (and gateway, dns etc) are obtained from a dhcp server. You
can just as easily change these settings manually.

These client settings are the same whether you are using a hardware
router or ms ics. As far as they are concerned it is all transparent.
There will be differences in ping times and such things though. Some
write ups about ms ics are not very flattering when it comes to
efficiency. No surprise there then.


Jim.
 
That is what I was saying, iow, why use a system that requires you to have 2
systems running if you wish to only use the one that doesn't have ICS
installed and running you still have to have that machine running in order
to use any other machine online
Click to expand...

A hardware device would be preferable but if you don't have one, ics
will be a cheap and cheerful alternative which works okay.


Jim.
 
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I didn't cross post, it is only that because of it
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someone crossposted and I forgot to remove it...
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David said:
Bill:

You need AV software on "all" computers and I also suggest that you dump MS ICS and obtain a
Cable/DSL Router such as the Linksys BEFSR41. The Router will act as a simplistic FireWall
and provide many more advantages.
Click to expand...

got a question for you, though others are welcome to answer too....

why the BEFSR41 instead of the BEFSX41? other than the fact that one
probably won't be able to find a BEFSX41 in a physical store (i
couldn't find any of the routers i was looking for in stores) do the
added benefits not warrant the additional cost/hassle of getting it? is
it maybe just a school of thought that 'any NAT box will do' and the
BEFSR41 is cheap and easy to find?
 
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