Intel 875PBZ, anyone?

[Adrian]

Has anyone built a PC using this motherboard? I'd just like to compare
specs. and ask a few questions regarding fan selection, out of the
newsgroups if possible. Thanks.

~ Adrian ~

 

[Buck Rogers]

I've built my latest with the D875PBZ (BIOS P8)
P4C 3.0Ghz HT enabled
2GB (4 a x512MB) Dual DDR Kingston ValueRam
2 x 120 Seagate Barracuda V SATA (non-raid)
Sony CRX-220E1 CDRW (w/official Sony FW)
Sony DVD-+R(W) DW-U10A flashed to DR-U500
SB AUdigy 2
ATI All In Wonder 9700 Pro
Adaptec FireWire card
etc, etc...
In a udigy case w/2 front, 1 rear, 1 top exhaust fan. A bit noisy in the hot
weather, not so bad in the Winter weather.

All works great. What questions do you have?

That is one seriously mean machine you've got there!

 

[ZOD]

2 x 120 Seagate Barracuda V SATA (non-raid)

That is one seriously mean machine you've got there!

Except for the poor choice of hard drives....hehe

 

[jona]

I've built my latest with the D875PBZ (BIOS P8)
P4C 3.0Ghz HT enabled
2GB (4 a x512MB) Dual DDR Kingston ValueRam
2 x 120 Seagate Barracuda V SATA (non-raid)
Sony CRX-220E1 CDRW (w/official Sony FW)
Sony DVD-+R(W) DW-U10A flashed to DR-U500
SB AUdigy 2
ATI All In Wonder 9700 Pro
Adaptec FireWire card
etc, etc...
In a udigy case w/2 front, 1 rear, 1 top exhaust fan. A bit noisy in the hot
weather, not so bad in the Winter weather.

All works great. What questions do you have?

Ja, do you supply tissues for the readers to wipe up their
drool when they read stuff like that ? My significant upgrade
from P1 to P4, 128SDRAM to 512DDR, 6Gig to 120Gig
(WD) HDD, 4Mb SiS PCI to ATi 9500pro and other stuff
seems a bit trivial now. Thanks. ;->

 

[Adam Steiner]

I hope you at least got the WDJ 120 and not the old 2mb cache ones...I have
the WDJ and...well...wow.

 

[David Lewis]

I've built my latest with the D875PBZ (BIOS P8)
P4C 3.0Ghz HT enabled
2GB (4 a x512MB) Dual DDR Kingston ValueRam
2 x 120 Seagate Barracuda V SATA (non-raid)
Sony CRX-220E1 CDRW (w/official Sony FW)
Sony DVD-+R(W) DW-U10A flashed to DR-U500
SB AUdigy 2
ATI All In Wonder 9700 Pro
Adaptec FireWire card
etc, etc...
In a udigy case w/2 front, 1 rear, 1 top exhaust fan. A bit noisy in
the hot weather, not so bad in the Winter weather.

All works great. What questions do you have?

Hi , I'm a relative Newbie so please keep it simple...why did you choose non
Raid in such a high end system (is SATA superior?) Apart from cost (?)..Why
not SCSI ? Why not dual processors (is HT just as good?)
BTW does the AWI capture video without dropping frames or freezing? If you
have DV Camcorder , does the firewire card do a good job at 'capturing' ?
Thanks.

 

[Guess Who]

I didn't choose them for speed performance, because there is no
speed/performance benefit with SATA at the moment. I chose them for system
performance, so my Hard drives are not co-mingled with my CDRW/DVD burners.

| > > 2 x 120 Seagate Barracuda V SATA (non-raid)
|
| > That is one seriously mean machine you've got there!
|
| Except for the poor choice of hard drives....hehe
|
|

 

[Guess Who]

Lets, see.....

SATA is no performance boost, I chose a non-RAID setup in the interest of
piece of mind. If the RAID array is screwed, so is the rest of my data.
I've got 7 partitions, each with it's own purpose. When I want to reinstall
XP, I just wipe the C: partition and everything else is still intact. I
back up when I need to onto CD-R or DVD-R.

SCSI is more expensive for less capacity. True, it far outperforms any EIDE
disk, but I don't need that sort of performance for what the machine was
intended for, and SCSI is not easily available natively on most
motherboards. (Yes, I know the new Gigabyte board has on-board SCSI).

Again, I don't need a dual processor system, for the same reasons I don't
need SCSI.

I capture fine in DVD quality with the ATI card - no dropped frames. I do
have a DV camcorder, also no capture problems with the firewire card.

| Guess Who wrote:
| > I've built my latest with the D875PBZ (BIOS P8)
| > P4C 3.0Ghz HT enabled
| > 2GB (4 a x512MB) Dual DDR Kingston ValueRam
| > 2 x 120 Seagate Barracuda V SATA (non-raid)
| > Sony CRX-220E1 CDRW (w/official Sony FW)
| > Sony DVD-+R(W) DW-U10A flashed to DR-U500
| > SB AUdigy 2
| > ATI All In Wonder 9700 Pro
| > Adaptec FireWire card
| > etc, etc...
| > In a udigy case w/2 front, 1 rear, 1 top exhaust fan. A bit noisy in
| > the hot weather, not so bad in the Winter weather.
| >
| > All works great. What questions do you have?
|
| Hi , I'm a relative Newbie so please keep it simple...why did you choose
non
| Raid in such a high end system (is SATA superior?) Apart from cost
(?)..Why
| not SCSI ? Why not dual processors (is HT just as good?)
| BTW does the AWI capture video without dropping frames or freezing? If you
| have DV Camcorder , does the firewire card do a good job at 'capturing' ?
| Thanks.
| --
| Kind Regards,
| David
|
|
|

 

[Adrian]

I know this wasn't addresses to me, but I'll answer anyway...

Raid in such a high end system (is SATA superior?)

RAID and SATA aren't the same thing. Serial-ATA is an interface to a
hard-drive, just like Parallel ATA and SCSI. RAID is a mechanism to setup
multiple drives for performance and redundancy.

Apart from cost (?)..Why
not SCSI ?

SCSI is good too, in fact, it uses less CPU power than SATA or PATA.
Problem is, it's expensive.

Why not dual processors (is HT just as good?)

Dual processors, like SCSI, usually end up being expensive. Between buying
the board and then two CPUs, it can cost a fortune. HT, at least in
Windows, ends up like two CPUs. Windows sees them as a real CPU and a
virtual one.

BTW does the AWI capture video without dropping frames or freezing?

I have the same card, and I can capture from my Digital8 camcorder without
dropping frames. No freezing either.

If you
have DV Camcorder , does the firewire card do a good job at 'capturing' ?

I've captured from a DV camcorder and it works fine with the Adaptec
FireConnect 4300.

~ Adrian ~

 

[Adrian]

Except for the poor choice of hard drives....hehe

Why are they a poor choice? I'm interested to see why. Fluid bearings,
S-ATA interface, 8MB cache, 7,200RPM, 120GBs - am I missing something?

~ Adrian ~

 

[David Lewis]

OK and Thank You to Strontium,Guess Who,and Adrian

 

[jack]

:: Except for the poor choice of hard drives....hehe
:
: Why are they a poor choice? I'm interested to see why. Fluid
: bearings, S-ATA interface, 8MB cache, 7,200RPM, 120GBs - am I missing
: something?
:
: ~ Adrian ~
:

Oh, don't mind ZOD and his annoying "hehe." He's been posting brainless
posts for years, and definitely hasn't a clue.

J.

 

[ZOD]

I didn't choose them for speed performance, because there is no

speed/performance benefit with SATA at the moment. I chose them for system
performance, so my Hard drives are not co-mingled with my CDRW/DVD

burners.

Who said I was referring to the interface?
Hehe..........

 

[ZOD]

Oh, don't mind ZOD and his annoying "hehe." He's been posting brainless

posts for years, and definitely hasn't a clue.

As if you did....rofl

 

[Guess Who]

I know any drive is subject to data loss of the whole drive. That's isn't
what I was referring to. I am referring to a RAID array getting screwed and
losing everything. I prefer to work on separate drives. for simplicity's
sake.

| > Lets, see.....
|
| UH...you are obviously unaware of the whole data loss thing. Partitions
| won't save your data in a failure.......hehe
|
|

 

[ray hartman]

BigA:

ZoD is off his meds again ........

rh
***********

 

[ZOD]

ZoD is off his meds again ........

"Why do you say this to me when you know I will kill you for it?"
Hehe..........

 

[Guess Who]

The only drives I ever had trouble with were Western Digital Drives. Three
of them just died after short usage. My very first PC, a 486SX 25Mhz, came
with an 80 MEGABYTE WD Caviar, which failed after two weeks. Another 540MB
drive died the same way, and a 20GB drive I bought to put in my sister's PC
suffered the same fate. They all exhibited the same behavior, they would
spin up then stop.I'd have to violently shake the drives as they were
spinning up to get them to "catch" (for lack of a better word) The drives
would work until the PC was shut off. At least I was able to get the data
off the drives.


Using your logic, I can say that ALL WD drives are garbage. because you may
have had a problem with Seagate, doesn't make all Seagate drives bad. How
many companies would send you TWO hard drives free of charge? That's what
Seagate did for me when I complained about the non-availability of the SATA
drives. The product manager graciously sent me 2 60GB SATA drives - for
nothing.

I was always partial toward Maxtor. I never had a problem with the 8 or 9
Maxtor drives I've purchased over the years, but since Seagate was first to
market with the SATA drives, and since they did send me two drives, I am
using the Seagate drives, for 7 months now, without incident.

| > what I was referring to. I am referring to a RAID array getting screwed
| and
| > losing everything. I prefer to work on separate drives. for
simplicity's
|
| Well....I'd be worried too with a Seagate...hehe
|
|

 

[ZOD]

Using your logic, I can say that ALL WD drives are garbage. because you
may

have had a problem with Seagate, doesn't make all Seagate drives bad. How

WDC make the best IDE drives out there period!
I can't even remember how many Seagates I have seen and heard failing
(countless old MFM/RLL drives..hehe).
Seagate does not equal reliability although they have improved....hehe

I was always partial toward Maxtor. I never had a problem with the 8 or 9
Maxtor drives I've purchased over the years, but since Seagate was first to
market with the SATA drives, and since they did send me two drives, I am
using the Seagate drives, for 7 months now, without incident.

I am OK with Maxtor....but the latest 1yr warranty limit doesn't exactly
inspire confidence...hehe

 

[bill davidsen]

| The only drives I ever had trouble with were Western Digital Drives. Three
| of them just died after short usage. My very first PC, a 486SX 25Mhz, came
| with an 80 MEGABYTE WD Caviar, which failed after two weeks. Another 540MB
| drive died the same way, and a 20GB drive I bought to put in my sister's PC
| suffered the same fate. They all exhibited the same behavior, they would
| spin up then stop.I'd have to violently shake the drives as they were
| spinning up to get them to "catch" (for lack of a better word) The drives
| would work until the PC was shut off. At least I was able to get the data
| off the drives.

This is a problem known as sticktion, in which a drive binds at start,
but once running is fine. I ran several drives like that for some years
without incident (system was up for about 700 days), and other than
having to rock the tower from side to dis to get a spin-up, they worked
flawlessly.

Needless to say I did not have the spin down on idle feature enabled.

Other than some issues with the early 420/540MB drives, I haven't had
issues with WD, and prompt replacement kept me from being overly upset.
I am quite good (ie. paranoid) about backups, so I was never bitten
beyond inconvenience.

--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com> CTO, TMR Associates
As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be
glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and
this we should do freely and generously.
-Benjamin Franklin (who would have liked open source)