InstallRite

[Spacey Spade]

I'd like to call people's attention to this uninstaller. It has been
mentioned only a few times. I've used Total Uninstall forever, and
there are a few features I've missed, like being able to export a reg
file. I have started to use InstallRite instead and think I am going to
stick with it. I like TUN's interface a little better, but InstallRite
has tons more features.

http://www.epsilonsquared.com/installrite.htm

 

[Spacey Spade]

I'd like to call people's attention to this uninstaller. It has been
mentioned only a few times. I've used Total Uninstall forever, and
there are a few features I've missed, like being able to export a reg
file. I have started to use InstallRite instead and think I am going to
stick with it. I like TUN's interface a little better, but InstallRite
has tons more features.

http://www.epsilonsquared.com/installrite.htm

Oops... has everything except an uninstall feature... darn!!!

 

[Phoenix]

Spacey Spade (e-mail address removed) wrote...

<snip>
Oops... has everything except an uninstall feature... darn!!!

They complement each other.
Installrite is SLOW scanning the system (compared to TUN).
It offers to create an Installkit, however, which has *many* uses.

 

[Spacey Spade]

They complement each other.
Installrite is SLOW scanning the system (compared to TUN).
It offers to create an Installkit, however, which has *many* uses.

There was a script passed around that would create a reg files from a
tun file. Unfortunately, if it doesn't have an exe, com, bat or cmd
extension on it I'm not quite sure what to do except wait (and do other
stuff).

 

[Sweet Andy Licious]

I'd like to call people's attention to this uninstaller. It has been
mentioned only a few times. I've used Total Uninstall forever, and
there are a few features I've missed, like being able to export a reg
file. I have started to use InstallRite instead and think I am going
to stick with it. I like TUN's interface a little better, but
InstallRite has tons more features.

http://www.epsilonsquared.com/installrite.htm

I used to use this; kept crapping out on me. I have no idea what version.
Total Uninstall is the best in my case because in case of problems it cleans
up everything with it's uninstall feature. There was another product called
InCntrl 5 or something that I used for awhile but it also had some problems.
That was way back when I was on Win98; have not used InstallRite or Inctrl 5
since switching to XP, perhaps they're better, perhaps not. I'm pretty
satisfied with TUN, FWIW.

 

[bluemoon]

Total Uninstall is the best in my case because in case

of problems it cleans up everything with it's uninstall > feature.

Beware. Although TUN is a very handy tool & I customarily use it when
installing just about anything, I can tell you from personal experience,
the assumption that it "cleans up everything" is not always a certainty.

From Total Uninstall -> FAQ:
(http://www.geocities.com/ggmartau/tu_faq.html)

"There are some changes in the system that are not monitored by Total
Uninstall. These are the subject of the next major release (please don't
ask for a date)."

Here are several apps other than what has already been mentioned you can
be used in conjunction with TUN.

RegShot 1.7.2
http://tianwei.digitalnuke.com/main/index.php

TEST-RUN by BB (for win9x only) & FileMap by BB
http://dogkennels.gq.nu/testrun/

UnClean 2 (PC mag utility - must subscribe to PC mag for access to d/l)

JoneSoft UnInstall Cleaner
http://www.freewareweb.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?ID=1079

hth

blue

 

[Spacey Spade]

Beware. Although TUN is a very handy tool & I customarily use it when
installing just about anything, I can tell you from personal experience,
the assumption that it "cleans up everything" is not always a certainty.

From Total Uninstall -> FAQ:
(http://www.geocities.com/ggmartau/tu_faq.html)

"There are some changes in the system that are not monitored by Total
Uninstall. These are the subject of the next major release (please don't
ask for a date)."

[snip]

Those changes have to do with file overwrites. You can't revert back to
an original file if it was overwritten by a new one. You might be able
to recover the deleted file by other methods.

Inevitable is that you will have to either reinstall windows, or revert
back to an image of an installation. I would agree that TUN is the best
way to prolong system life... but you need to know what you are doing,
because TUN tracks ALL changes, including those by windows and other
apps while you track an installation. I believe reverting these non-
installation changes is harmless, but I normally edit out those changes
from the TUN log.

Spacey

 

[Mel]

tun file. Unfortunately, if it doesn't have an exe, com, bat or cmd
extension on it I'm not quite sure what to do except wait (and do other
stuff).

My main script "changes.wsf" was a .wsf (windows scripting file) which ran a VBScript.
(tums.vbs) it requires WScript.exe (or "cscript scriptname.wsf options" from dos).

If you have the standard windows scripting host 5.6 installed
double clicking on it or dropping a *.tun file on the script's icon will run it.

The current version tun2reg.HTA (an HTML Application) - uses MSHTA.exe
Gives a slightly more readable "report" with totals (see below), a crude user interface
and fixed some of the bugs.






File: acrobat6 (Current system Vs post-install changes from Tun file)

Registry
--------
<snipped loads of stuff>

Values

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Adobe\Acrobat Reader\6.0\AdsInReader]
(new)-->"sAdsLastUpdate"=hex:32,30,30,34,30,33,30,39,30,31,34,33,32,33,5A,00
(old)-->"sAdsLastUpdate"=hex:32,30,30,33,31,32,31,38,32,31,30,32,35,37,5A,00
(new)-->"bShowAds"=dword:00000000
(new)-->"sAdsLastManifest"=hex:32,30,30,34,30,33,30,39,30,31,34,30,33,38,5A,00

<snipped loads more>

TOTALS
New Keys = 62
Deleted Keys = 7
New Values = 223
Deleted Values = 10
Changed Values = 91
DllCounter++s = 0
New Folders = 4
Deleted Folders = 4
New Files = 22
Changed Files = 92
Deleted Files = 67
File move(from)s = 0
File move(to)s = 0

 

[Kruppt]

My main script "changes.wsf" was a .wsf (windows scripting file) which
ran a VBScript. (tums.vbs) it requires WScript.exe (or "cscript
scriptname.wsf options" from dos).

If you have the standard windows scripting host 5.6 installed
double clicking on it or dropping a *.tun file on the script's icon
will run it.

The current version tun2reg.HTA (an HTML Application) - uses
MSHTA.exe Gives a slightly more readable "report" with totals (see
below), a crude user interface and fixed some of the bugs.

<snip>



I did a search for the "scripts" and could not find them.
I found an earlier posting,(2003) that had a link to them, but was no
longer valid. Can you direct us to these scripts, or post the script code?

TIA, Kruppt

 

[Mel]

I did a search for the "scripts" and could not find them.
I found an earlier posting,(2003) that had a link to them, but was no
longer valid. Can you direct us to these scripts, or post the script code?

TIA, Kruppt

I've uploaded my current version here :-

http://snipurl.com/tun2reg

(about 42K zip)

I've only tested it on one windows 98se machine, and I don't
recommend using the registry merge files it produces to modify
the registry (at least not without selectively editing them first).

Some of the options (compare to system) require wmi
to read the registry, this is not installed as standard prior
to Windows ME. (NB these options check the registry for
entries (and subkeys) added to keys created by the original install -
in some cases these may belong to other programs which
would have created the key themself, had it not
already existed - which is why Total Uninstall wisely
leaves such entries behind).

 

[Zo]

Beware. Although TUN is a very handy tool & I customarily use it when
installing just about anything, I can tell you from personal experience,
the assumption that it "cleans up everything" is not always a certainty.

From Total Uninstall -> FAQ:
(http://www.geocities.com/ggmartau/tu_faq.html)

"There are some changes in the system that are not monitored by Total
Uninstall. These are the subject of the next major release (please don't
ask for a date)."

Here are several apps other than what has already been mentioned you can
be used in conjunction with TUN.

RegShot 1.7.2
http://tianwei.digitalnuke.com/main/index.php

TEST-RUN by BB (for win9x only) & FileMap by BB
http://dogkennels.gq.nu/testrun/

UnClean 2 (PC mag utility - must subscribe to PC mag for access to d/l)

Direct download link: http://www.jfwlite.com/unclean.zip

Zo

 

[Kruppt]

I've uploaded my current version here :-

http://snipurl.com/tun2reg

(about 42K zip)

I've only tested it on one windows 98se machine, and I don't
recommend using the registry merge files it produces to modify
the registry (at least not without selectively editing them first).

Some of the options (compare to system) require wmi
to read the registry, this is not installed as standard prior
to Windows ME. (NB these options check the registry for
entries (and subkeys) added to keys created by the original install -
in some cases these may belong to other programs which
would have created the key themself, had it not
already existed - which is why Total Uninstall wisely
leaves such entries behind).

Thanks much Mel, I've downloaded it, will unzip and check it out later
tonight.

Kruppt

 

[Sweet Andy Licious]

Beware. Although TUN is a very handy tool & I customarily use it when
installing just about anything, I can tell you from personal experience, the
assumption that it "cleans up everything" is not always a certainty.

OK, made a note of that, but as the saying goes, "Close enough for
government work."

 

[Spacey Spade]

My main script "changes.wsf" was a .wsf (windows scripting file) which ran a VBScript.
(tums.vbs) it requires WScript.exe (or "cscript scriptname.wsf options" from dos).

If you have the standard windows scripting host 5.6 installed
double clicking on it or dropping a *.tun file on the script's icon will run it.

The current version tun2reg.HTA (an HTML Application) - uses MSHTA.exe
Gives a slightly more readable "report" with totals (see below), a crude user interface
and fixed some of the bugs.

[snip]

I ran tun2reg.hta and got the following errors:

line 225, object doesn't support... :'current directory'
http://home.earthlink.net/~storageplace/scripterror.jpg

line 304, object doesn't support... :'WshShell.CurrentDirectory'
http://home.earthlink.net/~storageplace/scripterror2.jpg

have mshta.exe v6.0something

 

[Mel]

[snip]

I ran tun2reg.hta and got the following errors:

line 225, object doesn't support... :'current directory'
http://home.earthlink.net/~storageplace/scripterror.jpg

line 304, object doesn't support... :'WshShell.CurrentDirectory'
http://home.earthlink.net/~storageplace/scripterror2.jpg

have mshta.exe v6.0something

Hmm, I could upload a version with all WshShell.CurrentDirectory
references commented out, I only used it so that 'browse' opens in
Total uninstall's directory (as recorded in the uninstaller keys)



I managed to quickly test the default options on a windows XP home
machine (as admin) and it seemed to work ok.

Do you have WSH 5.6 installed?

According to

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/script56/html/wserrwhatsnew.asp

WshShell's CurrentDirectory property was added in Windows
Scripting Host 5.6. however it also mentions the environment property
which I also used - (I think that is now only used for the filezip option
which I had intended to remove).

I guess this means it would require WSH runtime library V5.6.
(Wshom.ocx V 5.6.0.6626. on my machine) for CurrentDirectory
to be available.

(I'm using Mshta version 6.00.2800.1106)

I originally downloaded WSH 5.6 as an update, but
I seem to recall that there was a security issue with earlier versions.
( it is also included with IE6).

 

[Spacey Spade]

[snip]

I ran tun2reg.hta and got the following errors:

line 225, object doesn't support... :'current directory'
http://home.earthlink.net/~storageplace/scripterror.jpg

line 304, object doesn't support... :'WshShell.CurrentDirectory'
http://home.earthlink.net/~storageplace/scripterror2.jpg

[snip]

I guess this means it would require WSH runtime library V5.6.
(Wshom.ocx V 5.6.0.6626. on my machine) for CurrentDirectory
to be available.

I have wshom.ocx V 5.1.0.4615

(I'm using Mshta version 6.00.2800.1106)
ditto

I originally downloaded WSH 5.6 as an update, but
I seem to recall that there was a security issue with earlier versions.
( it is also included with IE6).

According to here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-
us/script56/html/vtoriMicrosoftWindowsScriptTechnologies.asp?frame=true

Windows script components are many: JScript, VBScript, etc. (1)
Which ones do I need? Where do I download? I can get VBScript from
IE6.0sp1 custom install, but not others AFAIK.

(1) I guess you've heard the advice of using as little microsoft stuff
as possible... I only want to put in what's needed for tun2reg. Thanks
for patience. I will probably use win98 as my main rig for another year
or two, then be assimilated to xp. So if possible, not too much
trouble, please allow files needed by tun2reg to be placed in same
folder as tun2reg without need for Registration.

<aside>
I plan to put in only IE5.01 into win98 because of this issue:
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm
Whatever the flaws, IE5.01 was made more for win98, while for later
versions it is an afterthought.
</aside>

 

[Mel]

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-
us/script56/html/vtoriMicrosoftWindowsScriptTechnologies.asp?frame=true

Windows script components are many: JScript, VBScript, etc. (1)
Which ones do I need? Where do I download? I can get VBScript from
IE6.0sp1 custom install, but not others AFAIK.

(1) I guess you've heard the advice of using as little microsoft stuff
as possible... I only want to put in what's needed for tun2reg. Thanks
for patience. I will probably use win98 as my main rig for another year
or two, then be assimilated to xp. So if possible, not too much
trouble, please allow files needed by tun2reg to be placed in same
folder as tun2reg without need for Registration.

<aside>
I plan to put in only IE5.01 into win98 because of this issue:
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm
Whatever the flaws, IE5.01 was made more for win98, while for later
versions it is an afterthought.
</aside>

I don't believe it is possible to use CreateObject() in a script unless the objects
it uses are registered (I use "WScript.Shell" and "Scripting.FileSystemObject")
It's written in VBScript and HTML (there is a tiny piece of Javascript - the
highlight link - which is just a favourite I normally use in IE if I want to
highlight text - never used unless you click on it)

The script isn't encoded so you can open and modify tun2reg in any good
freeware text editor.

I've tweaked my script so that WshShell.CurrentDirectory is error trapped
(ie it should still work ok if this property isn't available. It is not
essential for the script to function)

I've also moved the temporary file (~ziplist.txt) to the destination directory
its probably more sensible to save it there anyway (this also gets rid of
another potential issue with earlier script versions).

Rather than remove the option, I've also changed the script to check the registry
for filzip (previously it was necessary to edit the script to use this option) - this
uses filezip's option to zip all files listed in ~ziplist.txt, I very rarely use it.

You can download it here http://snipurl.com/tun2reg03

I hope it works ok on your set-up , but if it still doesn't:-

Windows Script 5.6 is available here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F6-249C-4A72-BFCF-FC6AF26DC390&displaylang=en





If you wish to use them, the options that compare the tun file to the registry (System Vs Tun ...)
currently use WMI to enumerate registry keys ( I seriously doubt you'll want to install that, the
changes from TUN file option works fine without it), since writing this script I've written a javascript
for searching the registry using Regedit that probably could be adapted to replace the function
I use in WMI (unlike WMI it can read uncommon registry types like hex(0) too)

As I recall to use WMI on 98 requires wmicore.exe (ME etc already has it) although
this looks to be much smaller than I recall!

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...FamilyID=AFE41F46-E213-4CBF-9C5B-FBF236E0E875

 

[bluemoon]

I plan to put in only IE5.01 into win98 because of this issue:
http://www.frankprovo.com/win98ie6filesproblem.htm
Whatever the flaws, IE5.01 was made more for win98, while for later
versions it is an afterthought.

Currently running:

Win98se

IE5.5sp2. Appears to be the consensus most preferred/stable IE version
for Win98se, & that is my experience. IE6 destabilized my system, but
thanks for the info at www.frankprovo.com - I may try out the fix
suggested...would be nice if it actually works out.

MSHTA.EXE 5.50.4807.2300

Windows Scripting Host 5.6 v5.6.0.8515 with dispex.dll 5.6.0.6626 bug fix
- released 6-9-2003 - see explanation at
http://www.langa.com/newsletters/2003/2003-06-23.htm#2

You can download it here http://snipurl.com/tun2reg03

I hope it works ok on your set-up

Works for me.

Thx

blue

 

[Spacey Spade]

[snip]

I've tweaked my script so that WshShell.CurrentDirectory is error trapped
(ie it should still work ok if this property isn't available. It is not
essential for the script to function)

[snip]

no error message here!

You can download it here http://snipurl.com/tun2reg03

I hope it works ok on your set-up , but if it still doesn't:-

Windows Script 5.6 is available here
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F6-249C-4A72-BFCF-FC6AF26DC390&displaylang=en

[snip]

Didn't work until I installed Windows Script 5.6. Thanks! I'll be
trying out the features in future.

Spacey

 

[Spacey Spade]

Currently running:

Win98se

IE5.5sp2. Appears to be the consensus most preferred/stable IE version
for Win98se, & that is my experience.

Do you remember sources for this conclusion? I hope it wasn't
microsoft.

IE6 destabilized my system, but
thanks for the info at www.frankprovo.com - I may try out the fix
suggested...would be nice if it actually works out.

[snip]

Why? So you can get the newest forms of security vulnerabilities? I'd
rather use security vulnerabilities no one else is currently trying to
rape. Also, there are very few feature improvements that I use between
5.01 and 6.0. I can only name one: print preview... I don't remember
the last time I used it.