Installing new hard drive

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I had the same problem with a 40 gig Maxtor in my machine which is
fairly old. It worked fine with a 20 gig, but no matter how I
configured, it nothing worked with the 40. I hooked it up to a Maxtor
PCI Ultra 100 adapter card that was laying around unused. I bought it
some time ago at CompUSA, free, after rebate with a Maxtor 30 gig for
another machine. That did it. They seem to be available on Ebay
fairly cheap.
FWIW
YMMV
DFB

Would it worrk with a western digital 7200 rpm 40 gig hdd?
 
Would it worrk with a western digital 7200 rpm 40 gig hdd?

I don't see why not. It's just an adapter. None of the documentation
states that it only works with maxtor products. You should be able to
get more info on www.maxtor.com.
FWIW
YMMV
DFB
 
I don't see why not. It's just an adapter. None of the documentation
states that it only works with maxtor products. You should be able to
get more info on www.maxtor.com.
FWIW
YMMV
DFB

Since Maxtor doesn't make ATA controller chipsets it's going to be one of
the popular soft-raid controllers, probably Promise Ultra100 in
disguise... and yes, will work with any drive.
 
kony said:
Since Maxtor doesn't make ATA controller chipsets it's going
to be one of the popular soft-raid controllers, probably
Promise Ultra100 in disguise... and yes, will work with any
drive.


I am interested in IDE controller chipsets because I need to keep
an eye on what the controllers are when I change the mobo for
WinXP.

Seems that XP gets installed with a driver for only one particular
IDE controller.

Where can I get a list of controller chipsets used over the last
three years or so?
 
I am interested in IDE controller chipsets because I need to keep
an eye on what the controllers are when I change the mobo for
WinXP.

Seems that XP gets installed with a driver for only one particular
IDE controller.

Where can I get a list of controller chipsets used over the last
three years or so?

Don't know where to get the list but is that really usefull? You can't
expect to move a RAID 0 array to another controller anyway, yet if it's a
RAID 1 it may be picked up fine. Since you'd know the current controller
being used and the next that decision can be made at the time.

So far as drivers go it's just a matter of a repair install then updating
the driver when prompted. There may be another way to do it while the 1st
board is still up & running but I don't know how.
 
kony said:
Don't know where to get the list but is that really usefull?
You can't expect to move a RAID 0 array to another controller
anyway, yet if it's a RAID 1 it may be picked up fine. Since
you'd know the current controller being used and the next that
decision can be made at the time.

So far as drivers go it's just a matter of a repair install
then updating the driver when prompted. There may be another
way to do it while the 1st board is still up & running but I
don't know how.

In my case it's not to do with RAID. It is just to help move XP.
I might (a) change the mobo or (b) move my XP drive to amother
system.

Sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't. If it doesn't then
I get the bott process cycling endlessly. The problem is described
here:

http://www.sageadvice.com.au/winxp-moving_to_a_new_motherboard.htm

The solutions are messy. One of them is a Repair Install of XP
which means I have to go and reset a *lot* of preferences and re-
apply XP patches, etc. The other solution of clearing some
registry keys as described in the Miscrosoft knowledgebase article
doesn't always seem to work.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;314082
Although this page http://www.theeldergeek.com/move_harddrive.htm

As the Sage Advice page above says ... "it seems that WinXP needs
to know the hardware manufacturer's ID and the hardware ID for the
IDE controller before it will load Windows".

Intel has the same understanding and adds this obeservation ...
"Additionally, moving a hard drive to a new motherboard may not
exhibit any errors until you install new IDE drivers".
http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/iaa/sb/CS-009290.htm

So all this means that it might be possible to predict when the
problem will occur if I knew what IDE controller chips were being
used.

Be nice to be able to look up the IDE controller types and then
decide if it is worth the effort.
 
Since Maxtor doesn't make ATA controller chipsets it's going to be one of
the popular soft-raid controllers, probably Promise Ultra100 in
disguise... and yes, will work with any drive.

Then what do I have in my machine? Device manager reports it as "WinME
Maxtor Ultra ATA 100 IDE Controller". Box says the same.
 
Then what do I have in my machine? Device manager reports it as "WinME
Maxtor Ultra ATA 100 IDE Controller". Box says the same.

- What chip is on the card itself, the marking?

- What files are the driver comprised of?

Device Manager means nothing, I could easily modify a driver file so it
installed as a "Fudge Nut Brownie" but it would likely still be the
Promise Ultra100. I"m not trying to be sarcastic, just to emphasize that
what shows up in Device Manager is completely controlled by a human typing
up any text string they like.

Aw, what the heck, I'll go see.........
.......
..........
...
.......
This driver,
http://www.maxtor.com/en/support/downloads/atadrvr.htm
is for a Promise Ultra 100/133 TX2. It is the only driver available on
their site AFAICT. That driver's "readme.txt" includes the following
excerpt:

"This driver version is used on all Maxtor branded Ultra ATA hosts."

The promise chips look a little different than the Silicon Image or
Highpoint too, they're taller (at least 3 mm) and (very roughly) 16mm x
20mm. The Highpoint and SI chips are thinner and closer to square
package, IIRC. The Promise chip might (if Maxtor didn't spec reprinting
or did so themselves) also include the text string "PDC20(nnn)" on it.

Here's a pic of a Maxtor card with the Promise chip on it, though if there
were multiple manufacturers your card might vary slightly but (especially
the chip) should look similar.
http://www.microwarehouse.co.uk/images/cds_images/I40634.jpg

You could also check the present driver you're using...
Unless Maxtor renamed the files, the Promise cards typically have files
like "Ultra.*" (asterick being a wildcard for INF, SYS, CAT, MPD, etc).
 
Piotr Makley said:
I am interested in IDE controller chipsets because I need to keep
an eye on what the controllers are when I change the mobo for
WinXP.

Seems that XP gets installed with a driver for only one particular
IDE controller.

Where can I get a list of controller chipsets used over the last
three years or so?

You can force XP to use generic IDE driver, thers REG file on the
internet doing that.

Pozdrawiam.
 
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