M
measekite
HOORAHDavy said:
M
Martin
Davy said:
No worries... and for what it's worth... I love Canons now... it's just
this annoying habit of my other half to spill coffee, etc.. all over my
invoices, etc.. that's pushed me to using the C86 types regularly so I
can at least avoid ink messes
Gotta say, the newer D/C88 printers are pretty good, although in
fairness I never had a problem with the C84... but the lower end
printers like the C20, C40/42 and a couple of C62 types were nothing to
write home about... Perhaps that's where it goes pear shaped.
Either way, glad you got yourself sorted with those Canons... and as for
justifying OEM, it seems you can if you're looking for excellent
longevity if the fade tests are to be believed on Canon... but otherwise
the only way I think it's possible is to stick your fingers in your ears
and yell "I'm not listening... la la la"
Y
Yronimos
(a couple days after counting to 10, and calming down a bit....
I probably wouldn't even be complaining about the OEM ink, if i
weren't for the way both my Stylus Colour 800 and my father's CX640
both clogged up using it - I bought it thinking "well, it'
expensive, but it's for the best." I think my father wasn'
happy about the price, but he didn't blow his top until I had to tel
him "well, it looks like just changing cartridges for the firs
time breaks it... I don't know if I can even fix it myself, and
don't think Epson will either." And the printer his Epson wa
supposed to replace, an ancient Lexmark inkjet, has been using th
same cartridge, using refill kits, for close on to eight years
I'm not going to recommend third party ink to my father, but I've bee
using it for a little while in my '800 for a couple months now with n
problem (your milage, as they say, may vary.) I figure that in m
case, the worst that can happen is that it will send my aging printe
to the trash heap a bit faster than Epson's ink
Anyway, I'm not sure I can justify the OEM ink, but I wasn't really i
the mood to complain about it until just changing the ink cartridg
for the first time gave the printer a heart attack
I bought him a Cannon Pixma all-in-one as an early birthday present
and I'll be installing it for him tomorrow... crossing my finger
that it won't end up a big disappointment
As for the Epson CX6400, I'll try out a chemical cleaning kit and se
if I can get the printer to rise from the dead, but I'm not reall
expecting much (I have to admit: anything that smells the way tha
DuraBrite ink solvent does can't possibly be healthy, and if anythin
will dissolve ink that stuff would do it... probably along with flesh
bone, plastic, glass, concrete, steel, unobtainium, etc... I mean, i
smells SCARY. I take the cap off the new (unlabeled) bottle o
solvent, take one whiff, and stop immediately, with one word jumpin
to mind glowing in big, red, scary letters: CARCINOGENIC! I'm no
squeamish about these sorts of things, but I'm a bit nervous abou
using this nasty stuff....
Yro
I probably wouldn't even be complaining about the OEM ink, if i
weren't for the way both my Stylus Colour 800 and my father's CX640
both clogged up using it - I bought it thinking "well, it'
expensive, but it's for the best." I think my father wasn'
happy about the price, but he didn't blow his top until I had to tel
him "well, it looks like just changing cartridges for the firs
time breaks it... I don't know if I can even fix it myself, and
don't think Epson will either." And the printer his Epson wa
supposed to replace, an ancient Lexmark inkjet, has been using th
same cartridge, using refill kits, for close on to eight years
I'm not going to recommend third party ink to my father, but I've bee
using it for a little while in my '800 for a couple months now with n
problem (your milage, as they say, may vary.) I figure that in m
case, the worst that can happen is that it will send my aging printe
to the trash heap a bit faster than Epson's ink
Anyway, I'm not sure I can justify the OEM ink, but I wasn't really i
the mood to complain about it until just changing the ink cartridg
for the first time gave the printer a heart attack
I bought him a Cannon Pixma all-in-one as an early birthday present
and I'll be installing it for him tomorrow... crossing my finger
that it won't end up a big disappointment
As for the Epson CX6400, I'll try out a chemical cleaning kit and se
if I can get the printer to rise from the dead, but I'm not reall
expecting much (I have to admit: anything that smells the way tha
DuraBrite ink solvent does can't possibly be healthy, and if anythin
will dissolve ink that stuff would do it... probably along with flesh
bone, plastic, glass, concrete, steel, unobtainium, etc... I mean, i
smells SCARY. I take the cap off the new (unlabeled) bottle o
solvent, take one whiff, and stop immediately, with one word jumpin
to mind glowing in big, red, scary letters: CARCINOGENIC! I'm no
squeamish about these sorts of things, but I'm a bit nervous abou
using this nasty stuff....
Yro
A
Arthur Entlich
If at some point you are looking for a relatively safe method for
unclogging Epson Durabrite ink head contact me at:
e-printerhelp(at)mvps(dot)org
(at) = @
(dot) = .
I will send you a copy of my Epson Cleaning Manual at no charge.
You won't be spammed.
Art
unclogging Epson Durabrite ink head contact me at:
e-printerhelp(at)mvps(dot)org
(at) = @
(dot) = .
I will send you a copy of my Epson Cleaning Manual at no charge.
You won't be spammed.
Art
D
Davy
Yronimos, I doubt you will have the same troubles as Epson, the Cano
ip5000 as I may have said already have had since ast June/July nio
one clog yet and to date not one single manual head clean
I was so sick of the two Epsons clogging, all I wanted was a printe
that was almost semi-reliable, after my troubles I was certainly no
going to get another Epson of any description, I was hell bent o
trying a Canon, hell it just could not be any worse
I thought of the finer print head nozzles and also thought of mor
clogging, well, its only natural is'nt it after the 'Woes of Epson'
how wrong I was the Canon is a darn good reliable printer, it's fast
it's economical and no clogs to date
A printer that leaves the two Epsons I have way behind in in
consumption and reliability
Dav
ip5000 as I may have said already have had since ast June/July nio
one clog yet and to date not one single manual head clean
I was so sick of the two Epsons clogging, all I wanted was a printe
that was almost semi-reliable, after my troubles I was certainly no
going to get another Epson of any description, I was hell bent o
trying a Canon, hell it just could not be any worse
I thought of the finer print head nozzles and also thought of mor
clogging, well, its only natural is'nt it after the 'Woes of Epson'
how wrong I was the Canon is a darn good reliable printer, it's fast
it's economical and no clogs to date
A printer that leaves the two Epsons I have way behind in in
consumption and reliability
Dav
Y
Yronimos
Thank you, Art, I may just do that, so I saved a copy of your message.
I'll see if I can get anywhere on my own with that cleaning kit
first, the directions sound simple enough so long as I don't force
anything. If that doesn't work, I'll try to get my e-mail account to
co-operate with me long enough to contact you and try your guide. You
get coolness points for taking the time and effort to make and
distribute that guide - I don't understand why Epson didn't make one
themselves for their older, out-of-warranty printers.
And if that doesn't work, last resort will be the drastic measure of
taking the whole thing apart and soaking the print head in alcohol or
something for a couple days, following one of the more extreme
solutions I've seen to the problem. But at that point I will have
basically considered the printer permanently broken and beyond any
help short of a miracle anyway, so I'd be taking the printer apart
for no other reason than to see what makes it tick.
unclogging Epson Durabrite ink head contact me...
Davy, so far the Cannon looks good, but for the first few months, that
Epson worked flawlessly as well. I hope you're right about not having
the same problems with a Cannon (I don't expect to see the exact same
ink clog problem, anyway, as that seems to be an Epson specific
problem.) For some reason, I had always remembered Cannon printers
as being cheap and disposible, the sort of thing you can get on sale
at Wal-Mart for $30 or so (only to find the print catridges cost
twice as much as the printer.) But my sister swears by her old
Cannon inkjet, and told me yesterday that the only reason she stopped
using it was because it had taken to squeaking when it printed after
three or four years of moderate use - which sounds like the sort of
minor problem a little graphite on the paper feed rollers might fix.
Compared to trying to get a Stylus working again, that's nothing. I
seem to have been mis-judging Cannon; well, anyway, I guess even if I
haven't been mis-judging, they have a lot of work to do before they
begin annoying me as badly as the Epson Stylus printers.
You guys rock - I'll probably spend most of my time here just lurking,
and I wouldn't have said anything at all except it bothered me seeing
people being called names because they were having trouble with their
new printers (I'm sure nobody who wrote those particular messages
meant it the way it sounded, but it bothered me anyway.) I know it
isn't because I'm not taking care of this stuff - my IBM '286 (with a
12mHz processor, 640K of RAM, and 20MB hard drive if I remember
correctly) is still working after all these years, and my Commodore
Vic-20 has been working just fine since around 1984. They just don't
make computers to last like that anymore! This new junk is just being
shoveled out there as quickly as it can be made, and I think the
manufacturers are hoping we upgrade to something newer in a month or
two before the older stuff falls apart on us - that's not consumers
being idiots or fools, mistreating their computers, or failing to
follow directions, it's shoddy workmanship, and in most cases people
who own this junk can only be blamed for buying it. And I think that
most of us wouldn't have bought, for example, an Epson Stylus printer
(or Packard Bell computers, or PC-Chips motherboards, or those
LG-somethingoranother DVD-ROM drives that kick the bucket in about a
year, or those generic junky power supplies I bought once that all
caught on fire within weeks of each other...) - as I was saying, we
can only be blamed for buying these items, and wouldn't have bought
this stuff if we'd known what to expect. If many different people
with different computers are having the exact same problems with a
particular piece of hardware, given a choice between deciding whether
the user is causing the problem or the hardware is to blame I'm
inclined towards suspecting the hardware.
y.
I'll see if I can get anywhere on my own with that cleaning kit
first, the directions sound simple enough so long as I don't force
anything. If that doesn't work, I'll try to get my e-mail account to
co-operate with me long enough to contact you and try your guide. You
get coolness points for taking the time and effort to make and
distribute that guide - I don't understand why Epson didn't make one
themselves for their older, out-of-warranty printers.
And if that doesn't work, last resort will be the drastic measure of
taking the whole thing apart and soaking the print head in alcohol or
something for a couple days, following one of the more extreme
solutions I've seen to the problem. But at that point I will have
basically considered the printer permanently broken and beyond any
help short of a miracle anyway, so I'd be taking the printer apart
for no other reason than to see what makes it tick.
If at some point you are looking for a relatively safe method for
unclogging Epson Durabrite ink head contact me...
Davy, so far the Cannon looks good, but for the first few months, that
Epson worked flawlessly as well. I hope you're right about not having
the same problems with a Cannon (I don't expect to see the exact same
ink clog problem, anyway, as that seems to be an Epson specific
problem.) For some reason, I had always remembered Cannon printers
as being cheap and disposible, the sort of thing you can get on sale
at Wal-Mart for $30 or so (only to find the print catridges cost
twice as much as the printer.) But my sister swears by her old
Cannon inkjet, and told me yesterday that the only reason she stopped
using it was because it had taken to squeaking when it printed after
three or four years of moderate use - which sounds like the sort of
minor problem a little graphite on the paper feed rollers might fix.
Compared to trying to get a Stylus working again, that's nothing. I
seem to have been mis-judging Cannon; well, anyway, I guess even if I
haven't been mis-judging, they have a lot of work to do before they
begin annoying me as badly as the Epson Stylus printers.
You guys rock - I'll probably spend most of my time here just lurking,
and I wouldn't have said anything at all except it bothered me seeing
people being called names because they were having trouble with their
new printers (I'm sure nobody who wrote those particular messages
meant it the way it sounded, but it bothered me anyway.) I know it
isn't because I'm not taking care of this stuff - my IBM '286 (with a
12mHz processor, 640K of RAM, and 20MB hard drive if I remember
correctly) is still working after all these years, and my Commodore
Vic-20 has been working just fine since around 1984. They just don't
make computers to last like that anymore! This new junk is just being
shoveled out there as quickly as it can be made, and I think the
manufacturers are hoping we upgrade to something newer in a month or
two before the older stuff falls apart on us - that's not consumers
being idiots or fools, mistreating their computers, or failing to
follow directions, it's shoddy workmanship, and in most cases people
who own this junk can only be blamed for buying it. And I think that
most of us wouldn't have bought, for example, an Epson Stylus printer
(or Packard Bell computers, or PC-Chips motherboards, or those
LG-somethingoranother DVD-ROM drives that kick the bucket in about a
year, or those generic junky power supplies I bought once that all
caught on fire within weeks of each other...) - as I was saying, we
can only be blamed for buying these items, and wouldn't have bought
this stuff if we'd known what to expect. If many different people
with different computers are having the exact same problems with a
particular piece of hardware, given a choice between deciding whether
the user is causing the problem or the hardware is to blame I'm
inclined towards suspecting the hardware.
y.
A
Arthur Entlich
You have to be very careful with soaking the head outside of the
printer. Anything much over 1/16" of liquid can cause difficulties with
the eheas whcih can lead to shorting or other failures.
Art
printer. Anything much over 1/16" of liquid can cause difficulties with
the eheas whcih can lead to shorting or other failures.
Art
M
measekite
THE ONLY GUIDE YOU NEED IS THE EPSON MANUAL THAT CAME WITH THE PRINTERYronimos said:
J
Joe Fischer
measekite said:
I had trouble finding an image that would make all
heads fire fast and often enough to blow out any clogs.
So I used the windows paint program to make 4
solid color images, one for each color, and then used
ACDsee or other inage editor to resize each one to
the full length of a page and saving.
Then setting the printer for max resolution and
printing the solid color image seems to help clear any
problem clogs.
Text files may not cause all heads to fire, and
ordinary image files don't do much better.
Now if only I could find the "can't load journal.dll"
error fix, I could print something.
Joe Fischer
G
Gary Tait
I did the same, but somewhere found some tiff files that have the
appropriate colors on them,
B
Burt
Gary Tait said:
MIS has purge files you can download from their web site that have full page
color bars. There are several of these pages the include single color,
four, and six color bars. Possibly others, but these are the ones I
downloaded and use when necessary.
L
Lou
Burt said:
A URL please
Lou
G
Guest
Yronimos I agree with you 100%. I have an epson stylus CX 5400 I will
never buy ANY ink jet printer ever again after this. Im going laser.
Epson stylus printers have problems with a tube falling out, and the
user has to dissasemble the entire printer to fix it. Also there is not
enough clear information on the internet for my particular model on
which section of the printer has to be dissasembled to put the stupid
tube back in. i cant be bothered with this shit
never buy ANY ink jet printer ever again after this. Im going laser.
Epson stylus printers have problems with a tube falling out, and the
user has to dissasemble the entire printer to fix it. Also there is not
enough clear information on the internet for my particular model on
which section of the printer has to be dissasembled to put the stupid
tube back in. i cant be bothered with this shit
A
Arthur Entlich
Have you tried to contact Eposn about it?
Art
Art