If you think this is bad you should hear MY rants!

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Hey, I have personally tested vista and came to worse conclusions than
Thurrott has....

I say this and mark my words: If Microsoft doesnt make some miracles happen,
they are going to crash the whole company on this.

I could explain all the details why vista is a sick puppy... but I dont have
the energy for that now....
 
Yer know, I see exactly what he means to some degree... but I'm remaining
optimistic for Vista. Virtual Folders, USB memory management, BitLocker,
faster installations, protected accounts (for preventing major virus
damage), the overall user interface... it's great!

But we still have a way to go before it gets to 100% quality though :o)

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Installed it on a P4 1800 Mhz 512 MB, barebone, no apps on it...
and it thrashes the hard disk like crazy...Reminded me of the win98 era!

Not to say that I could not get the glass UI...

Can you imagine what will happen if I install on that platform all the apps
I need?

This is my experimental machine I use to evaluate OS and programs..
I installed another 128MB just to see of vista goes a little better...

This is too much..... its too bloated.

I see that there will be a big number of people sticking with XP..

I like advancements and changes... and almost always have the latest and
greatest...
why does Vista make my stomach tumble? I have a gut feeling that the way its
going
vista will be a winME flop....

People HATED Windows ME... it was buggy, slow, it crashed.... too many
problems..
most of the users formatted and installed win98 if they got winME with a new
computer.
 
I truly do wish that they will suprise me.... I want the next windows
to be the best OS ever.....

I cant bear the linux fanatics... and what they will have to say...
 
sempron 2600 means it is as fast as a P4 2600, right?
thats 800Ghz faster than my test machine!
 
Also depends on what the revised version # you have. The latest update I
hear is pretty good. Have not seen or used it though. 5307 from what I
have read was a bit sluggish and did run the hd pretty much all the time.
Just wait till the Public Beta version.

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Jason

Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group.
Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.

http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878

MS Windows XP Pro, IE 7.0.5335.5 Beta 2
 
Andre said:
Here is the rebuttal:
http://mediacenter.mattgoyer.com/archives/2006/04/20/1100

:)
Click to expand...

I think Thurrott has it right on balance. The work that is still coming
down the pipe puts the lie to any claims that Vista has been feature
complete in recent builds. With the scheduled new work, and changes
derived from beta feedback, there is realistically little time for any
of this to bake properly before shipping later this year.

I added my 2c on the Windowsmedia issue to Matt Goyer's page:


I think the changes in WMP11 are superficially pretty, but managing the
library became a lot tougher.

It’s been hard trying to analyse the changes since the UI up to build
5243 has been very unstable.

The loss of drag and drop aggregation of tracks in the library does not
seem to have been replaced by anything new.

The Album Update feature seems to be unchanged, and there is still
little consistency in the naming & display of metadata fields from one
part of the UI to the next.

The picture management section is still a mess, particularly in the
absence of any separate management UI for images. Why would I want
thousands of album thumbnails intermingled with my personal photos?

There’s nothing to help control multi-user access to a shared library
media files on a single PC. One user sets update preferences one way,
and another sets the other way. Each time they log in, the two sets of
preferences fight each other: renaming and rearranging tracks one way
and then the next.

Also, we’re still stuck with 2-second gaps between tracks when burning
audio CDs.
 
Build 5308 CTP runs very well on my Sea Gate Barracuda 7200.8 250 Giga Byte
Hard Drive (OEM from Newegg.com), however it runs a little slow on my Sea
Gate Barracuda 7200.7 80 Giga Byte Hard Drive (OEM from DELL).
 
I've seen one of the videos that shows some of the graphics in Linux that a
friend on MSBLOG showed me... it seems much faster on half of what the
system requirements need to be...

.... but at the moment, I like Vista. :o)

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Zack Whittaker
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» MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
» Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
» This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and not
of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
that up!

--: Original message follows :--
 
Mike said:
I think Thurrott has it right on balance. The work that is still coming
down the pipe puts the lie to any claims that Vista has been feature
complete in recent builds. With the scheduled new work, and changes
derived from beta feedback, there is realistically little time for any
of this to bake properly before shipping later this year.

I added my 2c on the Windowsmedia issue to Matt Goyer's page:


I think the changes in WMP11 are superficially pretty, but managing the
library became a lot tougher.

It’s been hard trying to analyse the changes since the UI up to build
5243 has been very unstable.

The loss of drag and drop aggregation of tracks in the library does not
seem to have been replaced by anything new.

The Album Update feature seems to be unchanged, and there is still
little consistency in the naming & display of metadata fields from one
part of the UI to the next.

The picture management section is still a mess, particularly in the
absence of any separate management UI for images. Why would I want
thousands of album thumbnails intermingled with my personal photos?

There’s nothing to help control multi-user access to a shared library
media files on a single PC. One user sets update preferences one way,
and another sets the other way. Each time they log in, the two sets of
preferences fight each other: renaming and rearranging tracks one way
and then the next.

Also, we’re still stuck with 2-second gaps between tracks when burning
audio CDs.
Click to expand...

Well I've been testing 32 & 64 bit builds from the 4000's to 5342 and
all I can say is what a POS this is turning out to be. I have no idea
who is in charge of this train wreck but they need to be fired
immediately if not sooner. UAP is the biggest wast of time PITA I've
ever run into. It harasses the user instead of protecting them from
outside problems. If implemented in it's current form, it will make
Vista the most hated OS ever foisted onto the public. Especially when
some unknowing person purchases a computer with it already bundled.
Somebody needs to stop this train wreck before it's too late!
Frank
 
Personally, I can't wait to purchase this OS. One of the elementary schools
in my area is also looking forward to using the software with the new UAP
build into it. I can also see your point that it can be annoying, but UAP
can be turned off.

I have also ran into problems with older operating systems and family
members installing software that shouldn't have been installed. UAP will
help protect several familys from these kinds of issues. Don't get me
wrong, UAP does have a little way to go, but it is a great start IMO.

--
Jason

Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group.
Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.

http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878

MS Windows XP Pro, IE 7.0.5335.5 Beta 2
 
I think they threw UAP on everything in Vista, what they are doing now
basically is to strain it out based on feedback.
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Jason said:
Personally, I can't wait to purchase this OS. One of the elementary
schools in my area is also looking forward to using the software with the
new UAP build into it. I can also see your point that it can be
annoying, but UAP can be turned off.

I have also ran into problems with older operating systems and family
members installing software that shouldn't have been installed. UAP will
help protect several familys from these kinds of issues. Don't get me
wrong, UAP does have a little way to go, but it is a great start IMO.

--
Jason

Applied but still waiting to be accepted for the Vista Beta Testing group.
Can't wait to be able to play and help make it even better.

http://www.orderpcs4free.com/?r=878

MS Windows XP Pro, IE 7.0.5335.5 Beta 2


Frank said:
Mike said:
Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:

Here is the rebuttal:
http://mediacenter.mattgoyer.com/archives/2006/04/20/1100

:)


I think Thurrott has it right on balance. The work that is still coming
down the pipe puts the lie to any claims that Vista has been feature
complete in recent builds. With the scheduled new work, and changes
derived from beta feedback, there is realistically little time for any
of this to bake properly before shipping later this year.

I added my 2c on the Windowsmedia issue to Matt Goyer's page:


I think the changes in WMP11 are superficially pretty, but managing the
library became a lot tougher.

It's been hard trying to analyse the changes since the UI up to build
5243 has been very unstable.

The loss of drag and drop aggregation of tracks in the library does not
seem to have been replaced by anything new.

The Album Update feature seems to be unchanged, and there is still
little consistency in the naming & display of metadata fields from one
part of the UI to the next.

The picture management section is still a mess, particularly in the
absence of any separate management UI for images. Why would I want
thousands of album thumbnails intermingled with my personal photos?

There's nothing to help control multi-user access to a shared library
media files on a single PC. One user sets update preferences one way,
and another sets the other way. Each time they log in, the two sets of
preferences fight each other: renaming and rearranging tracks one way
and then the next.

Also, we're still stuck with 2-second gaps between tracks when burning
audio CDs.
Click to expand...

Well I've been testing 32 & 64 bit builds from the 4000's to 5342 and all
I can say is what a POS this is turning out to be. I have no idea who is
in charge of this train wreck but they need to be fired immediately if
not sooner. UAP is the biggest wast of time PITA I've ever run into. It
harasses the user instead of protecting them from outside problems. If
implemented in it's current form, it will make Vista the most hated OS
ever foisted onto the public. Especially when some unknowing person
purchases a computer with it already bundled.
Somebody needs to stop this train wreck before it's too late!
Frank
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Andre said:
I think they threw UAP on everything in Vista, what they are doing now
basically is to strain it out based on feedback.
Click to expand...

I understand UAP will be implemented by default on the public beta. What
a joke.
I can already hear the outcry!
Frank
 
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