Iconoid

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Frank said:
Iconoid is a Windows desktop icon manager.
http://www.sillysot.com/
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It will replace TWO programs that I'm currently using (SeeThru and
Iconlock, both PC Mag utilities and no longer available for the most
part). Not only that, but it's "Written in C instead of Visual Basic."
Thanks a bunch, Frank!
Some amusing stuff at:
http://www.sillysot.com/cgi-bin/misc.pl
also on the other pages at this site
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Now I've got lots of stuff to email my friends too. Good post, Frank!
 
John Corliss said:
It will replace TWO programs that I'm currently using (SeeThru and
Iconlock, both PC Mag utilities and no longer available for the most
part). Not only that, but it's "Written in C instead of Visual Basic."
Thanks a bunch, Frank!


Now I've got lots of stuff to email my friends too. Good post, Frank!
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Is it wise to follow this site's advice?-
"To allow Iconoid's Help system to function with XP SP2:

In IE, Go to Tools > Internet Options... > Advanced
Scroll down to the Security section.
Make sure Allow active content to run in files on My Computer is
checked."

Change OS security settings so you can use a program's 'help' file?
 
Frank Bohan says:
Iconoid is a Windows desktop icon manager.
http://www.sillysot.com/
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Looks very good! Thank you!

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TechnoHippie said:
I can appreciate that. I just find that I have alot more window canvas
without all the distractions with the desktop icons hidden.
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I toggle them on/off with The Wonderful Icon
 
Ben said:
Is it wise to follow this site's advice?-
"To allow Iconoid's Help system to function with XP SP2:

In IE, Go to Tools > Internet Options... > Advanced
Scroll down to the Security section.
Make sure Allow active content to run in files on My Computer is checked."

Change OS security settings so you can use a program's 'help' file?
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Ben,
I agree: that's not too wise, Of course I don't have to worry about
such things because I refused XP when I bought this computer. Demanded
that they send it to me with ME installed instead.
On the other hand, I work on a lot of computers that unfortunately
DO run XP, so thanks for pointing out this bad tweak.
 
John Corliss said:
It will replace TWO programs that I'm currently using (SeeThru and
Iconlock, both PC Mag utilities and no longer available for the most
part). Not only that, but it's "Written in C instead of Visual Basic."
Thanks a bunch, Frank!


Now I've got lots of stuff to email my friends too. Good post, Frank!
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Glad you like it John. Apart from the problem with using the helpfile with
XP SP2 (not really needed) it's a nice program.

===

Frank Bohan
¶ Life is a game, but the instruction manual is encoded.
 
It will replace TWO programs that I'm currently using (SeeThru and
Iconlock, both PC Mag utilities and no longer available for the most
part). Not only that, but it's "Written in C instead of Visual Basic."
Thanks a bunch, Frank!
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John's post (plus a hard disk crash in which I lost most of the PCMag
utilities I had downloaded before they changed their availability)
leads me to wonder whether it might be a good idea to compile a list
of suggested freeware replacements for PC Mag utilities (that are no
longer freeware), based on comments in this newsgroup, like the one
John just made.

Perhaps they could even be put into a webpage on the Pricelessware
site, with three (or more) columns: (1) former Pricelessware (or
other) PC Mag Utility, (2) suggested replacement/substitute freeware
program(s) with appropriate link(s), and possibly (3) as recommended
by: [insert screen names of recommendors] (if appropriate). Add date
of recommendation, if useful. Or insert comments or whatever.

I "Googled" back to the discussion in ACF at around the time of the
change-over, and there seemed to be some anger at PC Mag for changing
its policies, especially in such an abrupt manner. Of course, I am
simply suggesting this list as a way of being helpful toward the home
user in directing him or her toward useful freeware, and not as an
additional way of saying "screw you" to the management of PC Magazine.
The milk of human kindness flows through my veins, and I am grateful
to the participants in ACF who have been kind and helpful to me over
the years in answering my (sometimes half-baked) inquiries.

I thought I'd start a thread to discuss this idea, and as a collection
receptacle for any suggestions about replacements/substitutes for
particular PC Mag programs.

C'ya.

Ben
 
Susan said:
FYI - These 17 programs are being removed.

ClockRack
ContextEdit
Dupeless
EndItAll
FavOrg
Freedom of Association
HDValet (HD Valet)
Hotkey Detective 2
IconEdit32
IconJack32
InCtrl5 and InCtrl4
NetPerSec
RegEdit Plus (RegEdit+)
Registry Detective
Startup Cop
Tapecalc 2
TrayManager 2

Susan
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I guess this list would be a good place to start.

C'ya.

Ben
 
Ben said:
I thought I'd start a thread to discuss this idea, and as a collection
receptacle for any suggestions about replacements/substitutes for
particular PC Mag programs.
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The last PC Mag thread here, a couple of weeks ago, made me think it
would be good to have someone maintain a secret repository of PC Mag
apps.
I'd do it, if I wasn't so disorganised and travelling so much.
 
Looks like John Corliss originally had the idea for doing what this
thread is suggesting back on March 18, 2003:
Maybe we should try to find worthy replacements for them if there are no
such alternative listed already in the Pricelessware pages. Comments?
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Credit where credit is due.

C'ya.

Ben
 
The last PC Mag thread here, a couple of weeks ago, made me think it
would be good to have someone maintain a secret repository of PC Mag
apps.
I'd do it, if I wasn't so disorganised and travelling so much.
Click to expand...

There would seem to be a couple of problems with that idea.
One is, if it were a *totally* secret repository, what good would it
do anyone but you (or whomever kept the repository)? If it were not
totally secret, then you (or the "keeper") would run the risk of
having the information solicited by or used by a "spy" or agent of PC
Mag, who would presumably use the info to harass or shut down the
sites where these programs are still (de facto) available.

At any rate, the idea suggested in this thread is just the opposite of
the "secret repository" approach.

BTW, John suggested Iconoid as a substitute for SeeThru and IconLock.
You said you did not like Iconoid, but preferred The Wonderful Icon.
http://www.thewonderfulicon.com/pages/features.htm

So, in your opinion, is The Wonderful Icon a substitute for SeeThru,
or IconLock, or both?

C'ya.

Ben
 
Ben said:
There would seem to be a couple of problems with that idea.
One is, if it were a *totally* secret repository, what good would it
do anyone but you (or whomever kept the repository)? If it were not
totally secret, then you (or the "keeper") would run the risk of
having the information solicited by or used by a "spy" or agent of PC
Mag, who would presumably use the info to harass or shut down the
sites where these programs are still (de facto) available.
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This sort of sums up a part of the recent discussion here. My 'secret
repository' idea would be for someone to get as many of the files as
possible, from all the out of the way sites where they are currently
kept and then make them available (furtively... LOL) on request.
Obviously they would not be kept on a web site or freely available.
I suppose this would be where 'freeware' meets 'warez'. But, as was
discussed here recently, PC Mag is way out of line in trying to
'defreeware' a freeware app anyway.
Santa asking for the presents back...
At any rate, the idea suggested in this thread is just the opposite of
the "secret repository" approach.

BTW, John suggested Iconoid as a substitute for SeeThru and IconLock.
You said you did not like Iconoid, but preferred The Wonderful Icon.
http://www.thewonderfulicon.com/pages/features.htm

So, in your opinion, is The Wonderful Icon a substitute for SeeThru,
or IconLock, or both?
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Iconoid gives transparency for icon backgrounds and lets you set the
colour of the text...

Replacement: Effective Desktop

Iconoid lets you hide desktop icons...

Replacement: TWI

I run both of these anyway so the above features are a bonus for me and
I don't need a dedicated app. If I wanted a dedicated app for icon
transparency, then I would use 'Transparent' which is a minute file size
and wholly stable.

I've never used SeeThru or IconLock so cannot comment on them.
 
Ben said:
It will replace TWO programs that I'm currently using (SeeThru and
Iconlock, both PC Mag utilities and no longer available for the most
part). Not only that, but it's "Written in C instead of Visual Basic."
Thanks a bunch, Frank!
Click to expand...


John's post (plus a hard disk crash in which I lost most of the PCMag
utilities I had downloaded before they changed their availability)
leads me to wonder whether it might be a good idea to compile a list
of suggested freeware replacements for PC Mag utilities (that are no
longer freeware), based on comments in this newsgroup, like the one
John just made.

Perhaps they could even be put into a webpage on the Pricelessware
site, with three (or more) columns: (1) former Pricelessware (or
other) PC Mag Utility, (2) suggested replacement/substitute freeware
program(s) with appropriate link(s), and possibly (3) as recommended
by: [insert screen names of recommendors] (if appropriate). Add date
of recommendation, if useful. Or insert comments or whatever.

I "Googled" back to the discussion in ACF at around the time of the
change-over, and there seemed to be some anger at PC Mag for changing
its policies, especially in such an abrupt manner. Of course, I am
simply suggesting this list as a way of being helpful toward the home
user in directing him or her toward useful freeware, and not as an
additional way of saying "screw you" to the management of PC Magazine.
The milk of human kindness flows through my veins, and I am grateful
to the participants in ACF who have been kind and helpful to me over
the years in answering my (sometimes half-baked) inquiries.

I thought I'd start a thread to discuss this idea, and as a collection
receptacle for any suggestions about replacements/substitutes for
particular PC Mag programs.
Click to expand...

IMO such a list is not necessary. Go to:

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_ProgramIndex.php?sortby=Author

All the PCmag utilities will be shown in a group. Let's say you want to
a program similar to "Dupeless (dupeless.zip)". Click on the program link:

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/P_FILEUTILITIES.php#0224-PW

and it will take you to the category with similar apps.

If you want the PCmag utility itself - Google or one of the FTP search
sites will probably be your friend. You could also ask in ACF - someone
might contact you by email. I believe *many* of us have all the PCmag
apps archived.

and. . .

IMO such a list is not desireable. A list like that would not being
saying "screw you" - it would be giving PCmag free *good* publicity. IMO
their utilities should *not* be listed as a benchmark by which ACF
measures good programs.

JMHO

Susan
 
Looks like John Corliss originally had the idea for doing what this
thread is suggesting back on March 18, 2003:
Click to expand...

Unfortunately, it seems that most of the posters in this thread of
March, 2003 ignored JC's idea, and the discussion drifted off to
whether PC Magazine utilities remained distributable despite the
various licensing clauses, copyright notices, EULAs, etc.

Except for some comments by wts5409 ([email protected])
 
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