IBM switching to Linux destops in Germany according to a Linux Forum 2006

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Dear all,
IBM switching to Linux destops in Germany according to a Linux Forum 2006.
How do you think about this? It means IBM is not upgrade to Vista!
 
Well, they might well be using a form of Linux so that they can customise
the OS to exactly how it suits them... and to be fair, Linux is probably
more secure in the sense that it doesn't have to be updated every few days
because of security flaws etc.

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Windows does not have to be updated every few days, where did you get that
from? The reason why IBM didn't renew their contract with Microsoft was
simply because Linux is a part of their over all strategy and they want to
embrace in every way possible. Also, they are not forcing their employees to
move to Linux, they can still stick with current versions of Windows, just
that they won't have an option to upgrade on IBMs expense.

Novell has also done this, so its not really a surprise, plus, IBM is not in
the PC business anymore, its all about Server hardware, Services, software
such as IBM Workplace, Notes/Domino and AIX. So in conclusion, I would say,
surprising, I would say "What took them so long?"
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Well, they might well be using a form of Linux so that they can customise
the OS to exactly how it suits them... and to be fair, Linux is probably
more secure in the sense that it doesn't have to be updated every few days
because of security flaws etc.
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No it's every few hours over there :)

which of course is, in principle, the primary attraction of "open-source" -
that you don't have to appeal to some mystic court of sages and wait on them
in order to implement anything :)
 
Andre said:
Windows does not have to be updated every few days, where did you get that
from? The reason why IBM didn't renew their contract with Microsoft was
simply because Linux is a part of their over all strategy and they want to
embrace in every way possible. Also, they are not forcing their employees to
move to Linux, they can still stick with current versions of Windows, just
that they won't have an option to upgrade on IBMs expense.

Novell has also done this, so its not really a surprise, plus, IBM is not in
the PC business anymore, its all about Server hardware, Services, software
such as IBM Workplace, Notes/Domino and AIX. So in conclusion, I would say,
surprising, I would say "What took them so long?"
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After all, IBM never has put a Windows key on their desktops or laptops.
(Lenovo hasn't done this yet either.) It seems that IBM has not laid
down the olive branch since OS/2 Warp days. It's just my opinion, but I
have always preferred alternate OSes to Windows. Not to say that
Windows doesn't have it's place. I suppose it is even possible that
Vista may succeed in things that past versions of Windows have not, but
I am a skeptic.
 
It seems that IBM has not laid down the olive branch since OS/2 Warp days.

I made a similar comment on my MSN Space about this story. IBM is obviously
still keeping malice over what happened with Windows 95 and MS delaying them
access to the software. So, in a way, its pay back time. But, I think that
payback time is probably bit too late, with nearly 1 billion Windows users
and counting, 100,000 IBM employees moving to Linux is nothing more than a
fart in the wind to MS.
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Oh course it does, all the bloody time... update this, update that, Windows
Defender definitions this, security fix that...

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Oh shut up. Every few bloody days there's a popup for Windows Defender, that
doesn't install properly on any of my machines and keeps repeating the same
update again and again. I don't like "automatic" updates, as I prefer to see
what's going on, when and where. I don't think that's too much to ask.

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Zack said:
Oh shut up. Every few bloody days there's a popup for Windows Defender, that
doesn't install properly on any of my machines and keeps repeating the same
update again and again. I don't like "automatic" updates, as I prefer to see
what's going on, when and where. I don't think that's too much to ask.
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Same experience on my machine. All updates are supposed to download and
install by themselves. The Defender updates only download but never install.
 
I reported it in as a bug, but it's just whether they end up fixing it or
not... eeshk!

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Chhan Rithy wrote:
| Dear all,
| IBM switching to Linux destops in Germany according to a Linux Forum 2006.
| How do you think about this? It means IBM is not upgrade to Vista!

If they want to choose Linux and failure that's their business. Personally,
I'd recommend they reconsider and choose Windows and success.
 
Test said:
Well to be fair it IS a beta.

So fact is, it's expected.
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Bugs are expected. Individual issues, almost by definition, are not.

Even with the beta status, Microsoft is inviting paid subscriptions for
OneCare. Rather premature!
 
You are a liar Zack, and you should be ashamed for spreading false rumors. I
proved it again too:
"Every few bloody days there's a popup for Windows Defender"
There is no icon popping up for Windows Defender on Vista, if there are
updates, its represented by the Windows Update icon in the notification
area, you have to open it to really see if its definitions or driver
updates.

If you are seeing the Windows Defender brick wall icon in the Windows XP,
the thats a different story, you are not suppose to bug WD for XP issues
under BETA client, do that in the microsoft.private.security.spyware.general
ngs.

I am not saying both products have issues, but don't make up stuff, you have
not thoroughly investigated how the product functions and putting it in a
bad light when half of what you are saying is not true.
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No, again you misrepresented my words. I should have made it much clearer:
"Every few bloody days there's a popup for Windows Defender"
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I should have said:
"Every few bloody days, there is a Windows Update shield icon popping up,
asking to update the definition files for Windows Defender".

And yes, there is - and it IS broken because no matter how many times I
download and install the updates, they keep popping back up. Mike said the
same thing pretty much:
"Same experience on my machine. All updates are supposed to download and
install by themselves. The Defender updates only download but never
install."

I would appreciate it if you didn't call me a liar, and instead asked calmly
for me to clarify what I had said, as it makes you look bad otherwise :o)

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Andre Da Costa [Extended64] wrote:
|

The word can hit sensitive people kinda hard. Lying says the person
deliberately tried to skew the truth to something else that they know is not
true. Often, what really happens is the person doesn't get their facts
straight or makes a mistake or, even, is misunderstood. That doesn't make
them a liar.
 
Hi,

Well, it isn't that linear. Both OSes have their strenghts and their
weaknesses. I use and like them both, and they are VERY different in nature.
One isn't better than the other - they are simply different, and both good
at what they're supposed to do. There isn't a better OS - just a better OS
for a given job. What is good for one thing can be bad for another.

Andre Nogueira
 
I would very much prefer it if you spoke to me in a civil manner, there's no
need to be like that at all. I rushed that post, I should have elaborated
and I apologise for that. It's neither lying nor getting fact's straight - I
should have simple elaborated more and shall continue to write posts for
people and hopefully get more information across so that in future you don't
jump to the wrong conclusion :o)

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