I want to use Firefox - But

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I like FF and want to use it but FF won't let me make Bank transfers
Anyone else having this prob? Is it something to do with Java?
Had to revert to IE to get the transfers to work

Martin
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Martin ©¿©¬ @mandeREMOVETHIS.plus.com wrote in
I like FF and want to use it but FF won't let me make Bank transfers
Anyone else having this prob? Is it something to do with Java?
Had to revert to IE to get the transfers to work
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I had this with my bank. They said Firefox was not tested so they would not
allow it. I just installed an extension that allows you to mimic IE or
another browser:
http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#useragentswitcher


Alternatively, there is another extension that lets you open IE from within
a Firefox page:
http://texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/#ieview
 
Martin said:
I like FF and want to use it but FF won't let me make Bank transfers
Anyone else having this prob? Is it something to do with Java?
Had to revert to IE to get the transfers to work
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Very general problem statement => very general suggestions:

- could be caused by incompatible Java VMs. I suggest installing Sun's JRE
1.4.2, get it at http://java.sun.com.

- could be a bank that only supports IE for online banking. Try switching
your user agent string to "Internet Explorer", it might work. In any case,
send an email to your bank informing them and asking for Firefox/Mozilla
support. Maybe they'll see the light then.

Regards,
Wald
 
I like FF and want to use it but FF won't let me make Bank transfers
Anyone else having this prob? Is it something to do with Java?
Had to revert to IE to get the transfers to work
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Odd. I was never able to use Mozilla for banking, but Firefox has always
worked fine on the various banking sites I use.
 
Martin ©¿©¬ said:
I like FF and want to use it but FF won't let me make Bank transfers
Anyone else having this prob? Is it something to do with Java?
Had to revert to IE to get the transfers to work

Martin
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A lot of banking sites use activex (nothing to be afraid of imo) and also
pages rendered after logging in are considered "popups" by many browsers so
check you not blocking popups as well.
me
 
I like FF and want to use it but FF won't let me make Bank transfers
Anyone else having this prob? Is it something to do with Java?
Had to revert to IE to get the transfers to work

Martin
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Check your cookies settings also. I had a problem caused by only
allowing the originating server to place cookies. The bank was
outsourcing . . . All I saw was an error message that made no sense
to me (page fault line XXX java script module).

I enabled all cookies and went back and they said my cookies were
turned off - so I entered from the home page and finally got it
working.
 
lunedì 02/ago/2004 _default_ in
Check your cookies settings also. I had a problem caused by only
allowing the originating server to place cookies. The bank was
outsourcing . . . All I saw was an error message that made no sense
to me (page fault line XXX java script module).

I enabled all cookies and went back and they said my cookies were
turned off - so I entered from the home page and finally got it
working.
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Confirmed. I've had the same experience with my ISP.
 
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Martin ©¿©¬ @mandeREMOVETHIS.plus.com wrote in


I had this with my bank. They said Firefox was not tested
so they would not allow it.
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I had a bank that told me that, so I closed my account and
went across the street. We KNOW that IE is a security risk:
why force me to use it just because they can't do a little
research?


--
:-) Christopher Jahn
:-(

http://home.comcast.net/~xjahn/Main.html

Bureaucrats cut red tape -- lengthwise.
 
I like FF and want to use it but FF won't let me make Bank transfers
Anyone else having this prob? Is it something to do with Java?
Had to revert to IE to get the transfers to work
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It might be an idea to mention the name of the Bank so someone who is
able to use FF can respond. I use FF at 5 different Banks.
 
Martin said:
I like FF and want to use it but FF won't let me make Bank transfers
Anyone else having this prob? Is it something to do with Java?
Had to revert to IE to get the transfers to work

Martin
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Not sure it's relevant but I found that allowing new windows to open
when clicking a link in MyIE2 prevents me from doing my on-line
banking, due to Unknown Referrer errors. The solution was to
temporarily disable opening new windows in new tabs, i.e. use the
current window/tab when you log in or enter your transaction.

Cheers,
Larry
 
Bumblebee said:
It might be an idea to mention the name of the Bank so someone who is
able to use FF can respond. I use FF at 5 different Banks.
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maybe you have cookies switched off?
 
Martin ©¿©¬ @mandeREMOVETHIS.plus.com wrote in
I like FF and want to use it but FF won't let me make Bank transfers
Anyone else having this prob? Is it something to do with Java?
Had to revert to IE to get the transfers to work

Martin
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This is an old thread, but I thought I might be able to shed some light
on this.

I used to work for a bank, in the IT department, and I worked on the
secure banking website.

Banking isn't like other websites, it has to be completely secure. Any
potential leaks and everyone will lose faith in the bank and go somewhere
else. You also have to take into account every possible stupid situation
any user may encounter. "Gee I clicked back and refresh and now I
transferred $200 instead of $100, that's not what I wanted." That kind of
thing could actually lead to a lawsuit.

So in addition to just serving up the HTML pages, you have to have some
nifty JavaScript going on to do things like make sure you time out after
a certain number of minutes, or to verify that the things you're entering
in to the form fields are valid.

In order to remain competitive, your banking site also has to have the
latest and greatest features, so it's always a race, and there's never
enough time to do everything, so some things have to get cut - like
support for other browsers.

Again, since security is such a high priority, you have to make sure that
anything you haven't tested won't be allowed, like alternate browsers.

I'm sure once FireFox/Mozilla reaches critical mass, it will be
supported.

Also, both Mozilla and FireFox are considered "Technology Previews" and
the developers don't consider them to be mature and stable products.

Yes IE is less secure, though that could be simply because they present
the largest target, there have been a few Mozilla exploits that gained
some noteriety, but it's the dominant browser and the banks have to
support it. Mozilla isn't, and anyone using it probably knows how to fire
up IE just for banking (which is probably the best policy - Mozilla for
every day browsing. This way when you use IE it's less likely to have
been hacked).

You don't have to give up FireFox because of your bank, just leave IE and
only use it when you need to. That's what I do.

Oh, and Hi, I'm new here. :)
Mark
 
Mark wrote:
[SNIP information about bank, security, and browsers...]

Whenever I see or hear someone attempting to claim that banks consider
security to be a "high profile" requirement, I remember this...

Back in the 1980s, I was to install some software that the company I
worked for had developed on a VAX/VMS computer at a bank in Oz.

After passing through the physical security with the staffer who was
dealing with us, were were plonked down in front of the machine, while
he went off to "get the person who knows the passwords..."

Now, for those who don't know, VMS systems are installed with the
default SYSTEM password of MANAGER... I'm in front of the console, so,
I type in SYSTEM, and then MANAGER, and, of course, I'm in...

Now, at the time this system was only running their FOREX (Foreign
Exchange) trading floor, so there were only a few million dollars at
risk, not the billions it probably is now...

Of course, the other really amusing one was "we use callback modems, no
one can break in" - in those days in Oz, the receiving caller could
_not_ terminate a telephone call!

Banks, Computers, Security - pick _any_ two!

Cheers,
Gary B-)
 
Martin ©¿©¬ @mandeREMOVETHIS.plus.com wrote in
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Also, both Mozilla and FireFox are considered "Technology Previews"
and the developers don't consider them to be mature and stable
products.
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Minor nitpick. Firefox is considered technology preview. Not Mozilla.
 
Also, both Mozilla and FireFox are considered "Technology Previews"
Blimey, why all the negativity over FireFox? I use FireFox all the time,
and consider it a very good web browser. Are you sure you're not
confusing it with BabyaExplorer, or somesuch?
 
Blimey, why all the negativity over FireFox? I use FireFox all the time,
and consider it a very good web browser. Are you sure you're not
confusing it with BabyaExplorer, or somesuch?
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No question it is a good browser. But technology preview is what the
developers of Firefox want to call it. Who are we to say otherwise? But
this state of affairs won't last for long. 1-3 months more maybe?
 
Needless to say I was being somewhat facetious when I asked that question.
No question it is a good browser.
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I'm trying to encourage people in the office to use Firefox, but they
are mostly wedded to IE. Installing the Sage extension (RSS reader) so
that they can see Dilbert cartoons daily may help a bit. One wonders
what kind of other goodies are out there for Firefox, just waiting to be
downloaded.

In the long term, Firefox seems to want to become a development platform
for the web. Maybe one day we'll all be using Firefox as a thin client.
Perhaps we're seeing an instance where a proprietory application like IE
can't possibly compete with an open-sourced solution which can be easily
extended for various uses.

Or maybe Microsoft will just zap us all with his Trusted Computing
malarkey, and we're all screwed.
 
Martin ©¿©¬ @mandeREMOVETHIS.plus.com wrote in


This is an old thread, but I thought I might be able to shed some light
on this.

I used to work for a bank, in the IT department, and I worked on the
secure banking website.

Banking isn't like other websites, it has to be completely secure. Any
potential leaks and everyone will lose faith in the bank and go somewhere
else. You also have to take into account every possible stupid situation
any user may encounter.
Click to expand...
I'm sure once FireFox/Mozilla reaches critical mass, it will be
supported.

Also, both Mozilla and FireFox are considered "Technology Previews" and
the developers don't consider them to be mature and stable products.
Click to expand...
Mark
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In my extended family, we use two different banks. One guarantees Netscape
and Mozilla; the other Netscape; both works fine with Mozilla and Firefox,
and neither bank discourage the use of Firefox.

This has more to do with the banks putting up some effort and shaking off
mental lazyness and indifference to security in browsers.
 
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