I bought Norton Anitivirus- it was a mistake

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Hello Roy -

Roy Coorne said:
Well... meanwhile I contacted Dr Google with respect to BitDefender
and received links to several most critical and disappointed postings...
...and the Free Version has no on-access scanning.

At present, I run a test version of Panda Titanium 2004: Looks
beautiful but has product activation which I hate as I play around
with several computers testing this & that...;-)
As Norton AntiVirus hat no product activation in Good Ol' Germany -
not yet;-)! - may be I buy a copy of NAV 2004 Update.
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Thank you for the follow-up information. I'll do a little more checking on
this end.

Ladyhawk
 
Ladyhawk said:
Thank you for the follow-up information. I'll do a little more checking on
this end.
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Meanwhile I deinstalled Panda as it conflicts with my Mozilla Mail -
and NAV is reported to dislike Mozilla Mail, too;-(
Therefore, at present, I am testing GData* AntiVirenKit 2004
professional (AVK) with its two engines - one of which being Kaspersky.

Roy

*www.gdata.de
 
Hello Roy -

Roy Coorne said:
Meanwhile I deinstalled Panda as it conflicts with my Mozilla Mail -
and NAV is reported to dislike Mozilla Mail, too;-(
Therefore, at present, I am testing GData* AntiVirenKit 2004
professional (AVK) with its two engines - one of which being Kaspersky.
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I have not heard of this. It does sound interesting. I will check it out.

Thank you for providing this information, and good luck with your testing.

Ladyhawk
 
Ladyhawk said:
Hi Charlie -



Would you happen to have information on any AV's that are not, in your
opinion, resourece hogs, and yet, have a good detection rating? I would be
very interested in learning more about such programs.

Ladyhawk
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If you want something lightweight with an amazing detection rate then I'd
recommend NOD32.
 
Ladyhawk said:
I have not heard of this. It does sound interesting. I will check it out.

Thank you for providing this information, and good luck with your testing.
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Well, I deinstalled AVK 2004 as I found a posting saying that this
program installs interceptor.sys in X:\WINDOWS\System32 which - in the
case of that poster - led to BSOD...

At present, I use Kaspersky Lite and obey the rules of Safe HEX;-)

BTW - the other engine of AVK being BitDefender.

Good luck!

Roy
 
Hello dos -

dos said:
[snip]
Would you happen to have information on any AV's that are not, in your
opinion, resourece hogs, and yet, have a good detection rating? I would be
very interested in learning more about such programs.

Ladyhawk
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If you want something lightweight with an amazing detection rate then I'd
recommend NOD32.
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I have seen a lot conversation about this program here, and I have visited
the site. But, there seems to be a lot of hype of all the various AV's, and
most of those here don't seem to be able to agree on anything other than to
disagree. ;-)) Yet, to be sure, in addition to being rather educational,
it's also very entertaining.

Thank you for this additional information, I really do appreciate it.

Ladyhawk
 
Hello Roy -

Roy Coorne said:
Well, I deinstalled AVK 2004 as I found a posting saying that this
program installs interceptor.sys in X:\WINDOWS\System32 which - in the
case of that poster - led to BSOD...

At present, I use Kaspersky Lite and obey the rules of Safe HEX;-)

BTW - the other engine of AVK being BitDefender.
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Thank you for the update of your experience with the AVK. I hope you have
better luck with the Kaspersky. Agreed, if you want to stay clean, it is
always best to practice Safe Hex.Ladyhawk
 
Roy said:
Ladyhawk wrote:
...
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Meanwhile I deinstalled Panda as it conflicts with my Mozilla Mail - and
NAV is reported to dislike Mozilla Mail, too;-(
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....
May be you are interested to learn that after deinstalling Panda I
detected two yellow-question-marked drivers named "Panda..." in the
Control Panel's Device Manager after activating >View >Show Hidden
Devices - and deleted them.
(WinXP Pro SP1)

Roy
 
Hi Roy -

Roy Coorne said:
...
May be you are interested to learn that after deinstalling Panda I
detected two yellow-question-marked drivers named "Panda..." in the
Control Panel's Device Manager after activating >View >Show Hidden
Devices - and deleted them.
(WinXP Pro SP1)
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I am not familiar with WinXP, but, it is interesting. There seems to be a
lot of programs that leave larva in the host after an uninstall. I am
assuming you have not experienced any problems with system operations since
deleting them.

Thank you for the follow-up information.

Ladyhawk
 
Ladyhawk wrote:

....
I am not familiar with WinXP, but, it is interesting. There seems to be a
lot of programs that leave larva in the host after an uninstall. I am
assuming you have not experienced any problems with system operations since
deleting them.
...
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No probs at all. (In WinXP, a yellow question marks means that
something is only partially installed, e.g. hardware without suitable
driver, and may be inactivated or deinstalled.)

BTW - At this opportunity I learnt that after deinstalling software,
it is not sufficient to delete left files & folders and run RegCleaner
but also necessary to check inn the Device Manager...
(I know that the real experts among us clean their registry manually...)

Roy
 
Hi Roy -


[snip]
BTW - At this opportunity I learnt that after deinstalling software,
it is not sufficient to delete left files & folders and run RegCleaner
but also necessary to check inn the Device Manager...
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So it seems these days. There was a time that when you uninstalled a program
it took it out by the roots. Now, it seems that roots have a myriad of
tendrils that refuse to go quietly into that good night. Finding and
dislodging them has become something long the lines of the hunt for the Lost
Dutchman's Mine.

I am very glad to know that you were able to find and successfully delete
the files and have had no residual problems. Each step brings us closer to a
clearer understanding of things as they are....only to find the next day,
they have been changed while we slept. :-)

Ladyhawk
 
you have to buy new copy of mcfee every year too to get updates
so good luck
current version of symtec is 2004 but the still support 2003 but 2002 must
be more than 52 weeks old
 
Pardon me for butting in...are saying that one is better off
dumping IE and using another browser?

If so, what is your opinion of AVANT?
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Avant sits on top of IE and will therefore have the same vulnerabilities.
For safer browsing you might want to try either Mozilla or Mozzila
Firebird. They also have better features, IMO. www.mozilla.org


--
Dennis Roark

(e-mail address removed)
Starting Points:
http://sio.midco.net/denro/www
 
However since 90%+ of all web surfers on planet Earth use IE 5 or above
webmasters take little if no time ensuring Netscape/Mozilla compatibility.

--

Charlie in Mississippi
(driftin' blues player and gospel picker)
 
Charlie said:
However since 90%+ of all web surfers on planet Earth use IE 5 or above
webmasters take little if no time ensuring Netscape/Mozilla compatibility.
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Did you have serious probs with Mozilla' compatibility? I hadn't.
Would you miss ActiveX controls?

I appreciate Mozilla's way of
- administering pop-ups,
- identifying junk mail and allowing me to delete that without opening it,
- handling newsgroups.

BTW - The beautiful 'theme' Toy Factory is available for Mozilla 1.5.

Roy
 
Pardon me for butting in...are saying that one is better off
dumping IE and using another browser?

If so, what is your opinion of AVANT?
 
However since 90%+ of all web surfers on planet Earth use IE 5 or
above webmasters take little if no time ensuring Netscape/Mozilla
compatibility.
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Yes, and that is unfortunate, and fortunately beginning to change. The
standard is set by W3C and HTML4, both of which Microsoft violates.
There needs to be continued pressure on web masters to be certain that
their pages are standards compliant -- not Netscape or Mozilla compliant
nor MS compliant, but compliant with the standards. There are several
HTML Validation programs that exist to check for this. I am not a MS
basher and was supportive of MS in debates during the antitrust trial.
But I don't believe the web should belong to MS. It must be an
international, cross-platform standard. Linux and Windows users, for
instance, should be able to render web pages similarly. Hence the
standards committees. The ISP I use, a large broadband one in the
midwest US, Midcontinent Communications, hosts web pages and they
specifically state that they will not host MS Internet extensions. This
needs to become more universal, and I think gradually is. There is
increasing awareness that MS has stopped development on IE and Outlook
Express, and that the Mozilla Suite and Firebird has passed it by in
terms of features and performance, as well as safety.


--
Dennis Roark

(e-mail address removed)
Starting Points:
http://sio.midco.net/denro/www
 
I appreciate Mozilla's way of
- administering pop-ups,
- identifying junk mail and allowing me to delete that without opening it,
- handling newsgroups.
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And I appreciate, and find useful, Mozilla Firebird's ability to
masquerade as IE - and other browsers too. :-)

I've been wondering, for a while now, whether this 'Charlie' might be
working for, and posting on behalf of, a certain giant corporation?

Cheers,

Roy
 
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