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Adam Albright
Justin you talk TOO MUCH, yet you never really say anything.
Justin you talk TOO MUCH, yet you never really say anything.
J
Justin
Adam Albright said:
Get on topic or go away troll!
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Adam Albright
Priceless from the dummy posting in a thread about CARS in a computer
support group. We can add hypocrite to your "talents".
J
Justin
Adam Albright said:
You mean comparing the car industry to the computer industry? Perfectly
valid. However you'll note that no one is calling us trolls.
Go away troll!
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Adam Albright
Sure right, anything little Justin wants to say is on topic.
ROTFLMAO!
J
Justin
Adam Albright said:
Computer industry - Vista...hum...think about it.
Go ahead, dodge the troll thing again.
ROTFLMAO!
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Nick Goetz
Hi Justin:
In-line works for me...
We agree on that. "there is no point in missing out on sales"
"Agreement" was a poor choice of words. "Acknowledgement" is more
accurate. Like I said, customers tend to have short memories. The
acknowledgment provides a good fall back position.
"Moron" wasn't refering to getting anything signed. Sorry if that was
misleading or offensive, it was not meant to be. Reference was more
pointed toward 'cranking out sales" at all cost without reviewing
potential repercussions with a customer.
Due diligence over that which is within one's control. The topic was
pointed more towards the "small" system builder. Although... brand name
laptops and desktops can still be ordered "with" XP (according to the
latest pricing information).
OK by me.
Nick Goetz
In-line works for me...
We agree on that. "there is no point in missing out on sales"
"Agreement" was a poor choice of words. "Acknowledgement" is more
accurate. Like I said, customers tend to have short memories. The
acknowledgment provides a good fall back position.
"Moron" wasn't refering to getting anything signed. Sorry if that was
misleading or offensive, it was not meant to be. Reference was more
pointed toward 'cranking out sales" at all cost without reviewing
potential repercussions with a customer.
Due diligence over that which is within one's control. The topic was
pointed more towards the "small" system builder. Although... brand name
laptops and desktops can still be ordered "with" XP (according to the
latest pricing information).
OK by me.
Nick Goetz
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cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)
Me2; mine is a work-from-home custom OEM business since 1995, sole
source of income since 1996.
It depends. If your reputation is based on a strong skill set in some
fields, then entering other fields where you lack that level of skill
can actually dilute your reputation, and do you more harm than good.
If you're Windows-rooted in terms of your skills, then ignoring Vista
only makes sense if you're winding down towards retirement, given that
Vista will be your bread-and-butter for the next X years.
The trouble is, the more you trade on deep skills, the more effort you
have to apply to get up to speed with a new OS version.
If your business is not based on deep skills - e.g. you simply
assemble PCs, do a default OS installation, and sell on price - then
there's less work to do to switch to a new OS. Chances are you can
just push branded boxes in one door and out the other, and if they
should burp, you just push them back again in the opposite direction.
OTOH, if you are entering the business and/or want to ramp up your
market share, then a new OS is a great opportunity. No-one has more
than 5 months experience with Vista RTM because it didn't exist until
5 months ago - so if you've spent those months warking up your skills,
you can cruise past competitors steeped in old-version experience.
Generally, the standard of experience I'm after is one where "just"
having to wipe and start over happens between 0 and 1 time in the 3 to
5 year life of a PC. I insist of generic installable OS, so that
users are empowered to walk away from me and do their own thing if
that is their choice, but generally the installation is preserved.
Yup - s(oft)ware readiness has been a bugbear; bundled Nero doesn't
work, modem drivers and faxware don't work, even common HP printers
don't have drivers yet, etc. I suspect there were vendor-relevant
changes late in the beta process that have led to this state of
affairs, i.e. those that have been developing for Vista for a year+
have been caught out by late-build compatibility breaks.
It depends on how many sales you need. I'm pretty well saturated and
don't wish to grow the business so that I end up managaing other
people who do what I'd like to do, badly, and then have to make
excuses for them. So I'm not out to build every new PC in town.
I limit the impact of poorly-supportable subsystems such as NTFS, by
avoiding them where possible. But I recommend against building new
PCs with old OSs, as these are effectively pre-depreciated... rather
plod on with what you have before regenerating your PC lifetime.
Touch wood, I've hardly ever needed BIOS updates - maybe one or two
PCs in over a decade. Problems should always be expected, tho.
If I source a mobo that needs a BIOS update to work, it goes back to
the distie. Then if it dies on the table, it's their sweat, not mine.
Be easier to use!
source of income since 1996.
It depends. If your reputation is based on a strong skill set in some
fields, then entering other fields where you lack that level of skill
can actually dilute your reputation, and do you more harm than good.
If you're Windows-rooted in terms of your skills, then ignoring Vista
only makes sense if you're winding down towards retirement, given that
Vista will be your bread-and-butter for the next X years.
The trouble is, the more you trade on deep skills, the more effort you
have to apply to get up to speed with a new OS version.
If your business is not based on deep skills - e.g. you simply
assemble PCs, do a default OS installation, and sell on price - then
there's less work to do to switch to a new OS. Chances are you can
just push branded boxes in one door and out the other, and if they
should burp, you just push them back again in the opposite direction.
OTOH, if you are entering the business and/or want to ramp up your
market share, then a new OS is a great opportunity. No-one has more
than 5 months experience with Vista RTM because it didn't exist until
5 months ago - so if you've spent those months warking up your skills,
you can cruise past competitors steeped in old-version experience.
Generally, the standard of experience I'm after is one where "just"
having to wipe and start over happens between 0 and 1 time in the 3 to
5 year life of a PC. I insist of generic installable OS, so that
users are empowered to walk away from me and do their own thing if
that is their choice, but generally the installation is preserved.
Yup - s(oft)ware readiness has been a bugbear; bundled Nero doesn't
work, modem drivers and faxware don't work, even common HP printers
don't have drivers yet, etc. I suspect there were vendor-relevant
changes late in the beta process that have led to this state of
affairs, i.e. those that have been developing for Vista for a year+
have been caught out by late-build compatibility breaks.
It depends on how many sales you need. I'm pretty well saturated and
don't wish to grow the business so that I end up managaing other
people who do what I'd like to do, badly, and then have to make
excuses for them. So I'm not out to build every new PC in town.
I limit the impact of poorly-supportable subsystems such as NTFS, by
avoiding them where possible. But I recommend against building new
PCs with old OSs, as these are effectively pre-depreciated... rather
plod on with what you have before regenerating your PC lifetime.
Touch wood, I've hardly ever needed BIOS updates - maybe one or two
PCs in over a decade. Problems should always be expected, tho.
If I source a mobo that needs a BIOS update to work, it goes back to
the distie. Then if it dies on the table, it's their sweat, not mine.
Saws are too hard to use.
Be easier to use!