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SoCalMike
a lot of the time, companies will have drivers available on their
website. updated ones with bug fixes, too. helps to have broadband to
download them.
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HP OfficeJet 145 Black/color ink old. 8 days to expire. Printing will stop.
a lot of the time, companies will have drivers available on their
website. updated ones with bug fixes, too. helps to have broadband to
download them.
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Rod Speed
All I have to do is find the CD that came with the printer.
Its generally better to get the latest version off the manufacturer's web site.
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The Real Bev
The said:All I have to do is find the CD that came with the printer. I'll give
it a shot, though. It certainly sounds reasonable.
Downloaded the latest stuff. Installed it. No joy. Went to the HP
website, which suggested some diagnostics not mentioned in the User
Guide. Interesting: no yellow grid. The sucker is out of yellow!
Plenty of magenta and cyan (or whatever) but no yellow. Replaced the
cartridge, all is well.
Now I'm pissed because you have to replace the whole cartridge when you
run out of only one color. Nothing is ever perfect!
Has anybody found something that compares and contrasts various printers
in terms of lifetime cost per page?
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Cheers,
Bev
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Bob Ward
Downloaded the latest stuff. Installed it. No joy. Went to the HP
website, which suggested some diagnostics not mentioned in the User
Guide. Interesting: no yellow grid. The sucker is out of yellow!
Plenty of magenta and cyan (or whatever) but no yellow. Replaced the
cartridge, all is well.
Now I'm pissed because you have to replace the whole cartridge when you
run out of only one color. Nothing is ever perfect!
Has anybody found something that compares and contrasts various printers
in terms of lifetime cost per page?
You haven't tried refilling it? And you call yourself frugal?
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Robert Morein
Bob Ward said:You haven't tried refilling it? And you call yourself frugal?
Way to resurrect an old and expired thread
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Ben Myers
PC Magazine now and then runs articles on the life cycle costs for inkjet
printers. But their articles are obsolete as soon as printed, because the
printer manufacturers change printer models quicker than I change underwear.
Suffice it to say that the life cycle costs per page for inkjet printers are
spiralling ever higher as evidenced by low printer prices and high cartridge
prices. All the inkjet printer manufacturers are now following the Gilette
product strategy of many years ago. Give away the razors and sell lots of
blades.
Epson now sells printers with 4 cartridges. If you run out of one color, you
need only to replace the one cartridge. Same high prices though.
If you want LOW life cycle costs and can live with black and white only
printing, HP LaserJets are way ahead of any inkjet printer. I'm running a
networked older LaserJet 5M here. It just keeps pumping out the paper at
somewhere between a penny and two cents a page including paper.
.... Ben Myers
printers. But their articles are obsolete as soon as printed, because the
printer manufacturers change printer models quicker than I change underwear.
Suffice it to say that the life cycle costs per page for inkjet printers are
spiralling ever higher as evidenced by low printer prices and high cartridge
prices. All the inkjet printer manufacturers are now following the Gilette
product strategy of many years ago. Give away the razors and sell lots of
blades.
Epson now sells printers with 4 cartridges. If you run out of one color, you
need only to replace the one cartridge. Same high prices though.
If you want LOW life cycle costs and can live with black and white only
printing, HP LaserJets are way ahead of any inkjet printer. I'm running a
networked older LaserJet 5M here. It just keeps pumping out the paper at
somewhere between a penny and two cents a page including paper.
.... Ben Myers
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The Real Bev
Bob said:You haven't tried refilling it? And you call yourself frugal?
It's my mom. She pays somebody to pump her gas, too. It's her choice,
I'd just like to widen the spectrum of possibility a bit. When she
replaces it she'll have better resolution, but it would be nice to NOT
feel like you're flushing money. She's frugal too, just not as serious
as I am. She looks on it as exchanging pieces of green paper for
something she can actually use.
Our printer is a 10-YO Panasonic laser printer, and we have a spare to
use for parts. I've refilled it once. I see no need to print in
color; sometimes it would be nice, but not nice enough to have to deal
with the problems all the time.
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Cheers,
Bev
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"If you see me running, try to keep up."
...Back of bomb technician's shirt
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SoCalMike
canon has some printers that use individual ink carts. i dont like
canon, because ive never had one that didnt jam.
some people have more luck than others with the refilling. ive never
been one of the lucky ones. either i overfill, the piezo nozzle clogs,
or it works intermittantly.
canon, because ive never had one that didnt jam.
You haven't tried refilling it? And you call yourself frugal?
some people have more luck than others with the refilling. ive never
been one of the lucky ones. either i overfill, the piezo nozzle clogs,
or it works intermittantly.
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Rod Speed
canon has some printers that use individual ink carts.
They do indeed.
i dont like canon, because ive never had one that didnt jam.
Mine has never jammed. Ever.
some people have more luck than others with the refilling.
ive never been one of the lucky ones. either i overfill, the
piezo nozzle clogs, or it works intermittantly.
My canon is easy to refill, specially with the Pelikan syringe type refillers.
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ahedge
try this: http://www.cacartridge.com/ink_jets.php they do the refilling ...SoCalMike said:canon has some printers that use individual ink carts. i dont like
canon, because ive never had one that didnt jam.
some people have more luck than others with the refilling. ive never
been one of the lucky ones. either i overfill, the piezo nozzle clogs,
or it works intermittantly.
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Jeff Jonas
canon has some printers that use individual ink carts.
Jamming was never a problem since the ones I have place the paper in-tray
in the back so the paper path is only forward to the front tray.
No flexing or bending around for the space-saving paper tray underneath
as with HP printers.
I just tossed out a Canon inkjet printer and several more will follow.
I wasted over $100 on the model 610 when that was the latest and greatest.
It has separate tanks, but the head doesn't seal when it parks,
so the "permanent" heads clogged.
Even when new, heads clogged after a day or 2
so I never achieved full resolution color printing.
While pulling it apart I found out why the felt cleaning-pad doesn't remove.
The felt pad continues to a huge chamber that's underneath the printer.
Several friends are pleased with the recent Epson color inkjet printers.
They print photographic quality. That's my next color printer.
Mine has never jammed. Ever.
Jamming was never a problem since the ones I have place the paper in-tray
in the back so the paper path is only forward to the front tray.
No flexing or bending around for the space-saving paper tray underneath
as with HP printers.
I just tossed out a Canon inkjet printer and several more will follow.
I wasted over $100 on the model 610 when that was the latest and greatest.
It has separate tanks, but the head doesn't seal when it parks,
so the "permanent" heads clogged.
Even when new, heads clogged after a day or 2
so I never achieved full resolution color printing.
While pulling it apart I found out why the felt cleaning-pad doesn't remove.
The felt pad continues to a huge chamber that's underneath the printer.
Several friends are pleased with the recent Epson color inkjet printers.
They print photographic quality. That's my next color printer.
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shelly
Several friends are pleased with the recent Epson color
inkjet printers. They print photographic quality. That's my
next color printer.
i've got an Epson Stylus C84. the print quality is quite
good. it prints full bleed, has separate tanks, and the ink
is waterproof. the last was the deciding factor for me. i
use it mainly for art purposes, so images that won't smear
when wet is important. this ink won't so much as smudge, even
if you fully immerse the print in water. i've printed on all
sorts of surfaces (newsprint, card stock, onion skin, paper
bags, transparencies, fabric...) and haven't had any
finickiness or jamming, nor any problems with print-heads
drying out, even when the printer isn't used for weeks on end.
and, it ships with full-sized color cartridges and a large
black cartridge (black comes in two sizes).
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Dave Close
The Real Bev said:Has anybody found something that compares and contrasts various printers
in terms of lifetime cost per page?
Consumer Reports, current issue.
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The Real Bev
Consumer Reports, current issue.
Oh goody, off to the library. I stopped reading it when I got tired of
hearing about shock hazards if you do something incredibly stupid with
something that you plug into the wall. What they rarely talk about is
longevity. I'm willing to forego a lot of features as long as a thing
works pretty much forever.
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Rod Speed
The Real Bev said:Oh goody, off to the library. I stopped reading it when I got tired of
hearing about shock hazards if you do something incredibly stupid with
something that you plug into the wall. What they rarely talk about is
longevity. I'm willing to forego a lot of features as long as a thing
works pretty much forever.
Get with the program, granny.
The real world has moved on just a tad on that with inkjet printers now.
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Bill Haught
Installing service packs can break systems if you don't install
updates to important programs (which may or may not require a costly
upgrade). I would consider printer drivers as important programs.
Considering a Linux distro might be a good idea to. I haven't checked
for Linux drivers, but the directions and registration pretended that
UNIX-like operating systems do not exist (except Mac OS X), which
isn't exactly encouraging.
updates to important programs (which may or may not require a costly
upgrade). I would consider printer drivers as important programs.
Considering a Linux distro might be a good idea to. I haven't checked
for Linux drivers, but the directions and registration pretended that
UNIX-like operating systems do not exist (except Mac OS X), which
isn't exactly encouraging.
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Michael Meissner
Bill Haught said:Installing service packs can break systems if you don't install
updates to important programs (which may or may not require a costly
upgrade). I would consider printer drivers as important programs.
Considering a Linux distro might be a good idea to. I haven't checked
for Linux drivers, but the directions and registration pretended that
UNIX-like operating systems do not exist (except Mac OS X), which
isn't exactly encouraging.
According to http://hpoj.sourceforge.net/suplist.shtml, Linux supports the
OfficeJet D145 as a printer, but does not support the fax part. I'm not sure
the if scanner part is supported.
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Donna Di' Stranso
Every HP fake expiry date has been shown to be surmountable.
Except the final 4.5-year-from-date-of-manufacture expiry date.
The question still is HOW DOES HP STORE that final expiry date?
I find it hard to believe the COMPUTER has anything to do with the
storage of the expiry date on an HP 14 ink cartridge. Why? Because the
d145 all-in-one printer which uses the HP 14 ink ink is a color copier
and a fax and neither usage requires the use of a computer.
Does ANYONE actually know how HP stores the expiry date in an HP14 ink
cartridge?
Except the final 4.5-year-from-date-of-manufacture expiry date.
The question still is HOW DOES HP STORE that final expiry date?
I find it hard to believe the COMPUTER has anything to do with the
storage of the expiry date on an HP 14 ink cartridge. Why? Because the
d145 all-in-one printer which uses the HP 14 ink ink is a color copier
and a fax and neither usage requires the use of a computer.
Does ANYONE actually know how HP stores the expiry date in an HP14 ink
cartridge?
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Joel M. Eichen
Hello Donna,
Its a simple thing for computer technology as the computer and the
printer do "TALK" to one another. FONTS, etc.
You install the cartidge and it sends a signal to the computer and
send the exiration date.
How?
How to circumvent?
I have no idea!
JOEL
Its a simple thing for computer technology as the computer and the
printer do "TALK" to one another. FONTS, etc.
You install the cartidge and it sends a signal to the computer and
send the exiration date.
How?
How to circumvent?
I have no idea!
JOEL
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Brian Inglis
Every HP fake expiry date has been shown to be surmountable.
Except the final 4.5-year-from-date-of-manufacture expiry date.
The question still is HOW DOES HP STORE that final expiry date?
I find it hard to believe the COMPUTER has anything to do with the
storage of the expiry date on an HP 14 ink cartridge. Why? Because the
d145 all-in-one printer which uses the HP 14 ink ink is a color copier
and a fax and neither usage requires the use of a computer.
ISTM the reference is to the computer(s) that run the scanner,
printer, and modem inside the all-in-one.
Does ANYONE actually know how HP stores the expiry date in an HP14 ink
cartridge?
Probably encoded with some of the cartridge contacts, possibly
internal to the cartridge, requiring a minor mod every month, so that
the flexible circuit strip doesn't have to be changed.