HP : Massive strike and protest march today

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How many first job employees land a job with 4 weeks vacation unless
it is pitching hot dogs at the beach.

Their cars are crap. BMW and Mercedes join the ranks of Fiat. Even
GM builds better cars. Germany lost the high end camera business to
Japan years ago. And on and on and ...

But you know what? Words don't mean a thing.

arthur
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I can't claim to know what HP in France is demanding relative to other
divisions. I don't know if HP in France is selling goods worldwide or
mainly to people in France, either, (if they mainly produce for France,
then the company culture should reflect the workers and clients more)
and I am not necessarily a great supporter of everything within the
French culture. However, some concepts they have right. People
shouldn't ruin their health working, and particularly for a company that
shows little to no loyalty to their employees, and in recent years HP
has shown a poor attitude toward their long term and loyal workers, all
in the search for better stock holder support and outrageous "gifts" and
golden parachutes to upper management and execs. C.F. certainly did
major damage to the company under her stewardship, as well.

As in France, family should come before workplace, and French culture
has a better understanding of this, and offers better education and
welfare for their children than many other countries, including the US.

The EU community is overall showing more leadership in making new and
improved environmental standards, especially in areas of high tech,
working on global climate change, etc.

Multinationals need to be more sensitive to the culture of the countries
they hold offices and manufacturing plants within. Just because people
at HP US may be willing to sacrifice there health and families for their
job doesn't necessarily make it a good thing (for anyone other than HP
execs and stock holders).

Companies need to develop more balance in how they function. Developing
a race for the bottom, just because some countries' cultures allow for
it, hardly makes it smart. It's not about the 1960's or 1970's, it
about the fact that we hopefully have evolved far enough to recognize
those approaches are hazardous and not beneficial. Some of the
developing world is just entering an evolution we are hopefully just
leaving. We should be in no rush to compete with what the workers in
those countries will eventually recognize is a poorer set of values.

Art
 
But you know what? Words don't mean a thing.

arthur
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Well then, I will again ask you to sign your name to all of this
meaningless fine print... you may find yourself the owner of something
beyond your wildest dreams.
 
There was also a strike today in HP Italy against the (lack of)
strategy of HP's CEO Mark Hurd.

And a protest of the UK employees :

The UK Employee Representatives strongly disagree with the proposed
work-force management figure of 968 for the United Kingdom. Employees
are extremely concerned with the continual erosion of UK jobs, being
transferred under the banner of ‘off-shore and near-shoring’ to
emerging European countries, primarily for financial reasons. The UK
forum will not support UK jobs being transferred to other countries.Hp
invent must look to address cost reduction more pragmatically, rather
than reducing employees as a cost saving strategy. As UK
representatives we request that HP senior management liaise with UK
government and Scottish government ministers, whereby requesting
assistance in respect to possible governmental support, and we would
also recommend that UK government partner with French President Jacques
Chirac in requesting EU commission support (where possible).Looking
forward to the consultation process, the employee representatives will
work with UK management in doing all they can to mitigate the job loses
where feasibly possible;• re-evaluate the proposed outsourcing plans
in order to keep UK HP employees in their Jobs•better use of
internal redeployment processes•improvements in re-skilling
activities of our colleagues•optimization and reduction of
internal processes in order to get more focus on thereal job•give
support to employees in finding alternatives inside or even outside HP
andprovide enough time for redeployment•giving works council
enough time and resources to help employeesOnce all aspect of
mitigation are exhausted, fair and equitable severance packages for
employees will be discussed, possibly utilising early retirement and
voluntary enhanced schemes where possibleThe UK forum would also like
to support the view of the general European Workers Council in asking
the UK management to focus on new markets, products and services in
order to ensure the HP UK growth path and continued employment for HP
UK employees"
 
Mushroom said:
I *know* what the HP standard is. However, with French national holidays
plus the way that teh French have implemented the European Working Time
Directive which limits the number of hours you can work to 35 but lets
you "carry over" hours over the 35 per week into holidays that can mean
50 days.
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OK for the potential of 50 days with the last explaination even it's less
than that for a major part of the compagnies in France.
But your first sentence was pure fiction :
"that they can work a 35 hour week and still enjoy their"
50 days holiday a year".
 
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