HP : Massive strike and protest march today

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So what! Seems to be posted in the wrong newsgroup.
 
So what! Seems to be posted in the wrong newsgroup.

Just the opposite. Read the articles and you will see the real lack of
industrial strategy
and lack of ethics of HP.

Very important to know before investing !
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote:
||| So what! Seems to be posted in the wrong newsgroup.
||
|| Just the opposite. Read the articles and you will see the
|| real lack of industrial strategy
|| and lack of ethics of HP.
||
|| Very important to know before investing !

Which is political and has not place here...
 
Which is political and has not place here...

No it is not political.

The lack of industrial vision, the lach of ethics (think about
ethical funds), distributing millions in stocks and stock options
to some execs will lead to losses very soon.

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I couldnt find mention of HP in the article you linked. Instead, it was an
article about protests against french government policies and failings.
 
Photos and comments :

http://www.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/10/04/france.strike/index.html

http://cftchp.blogspot.com/
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This has VERY LITTLE to do with HP apart from the photo caption, but if
you want some input from those of us who work at HP then I can tell you
that the French offices have had this coming for a long time. They are
like the rest of the French, in that they seem to think the world owes
them a living - that they can work a 35 hour week and still enjoy their
50 days holiday a year.

The French employment laws have caused this problem, not HP. As an
investor and shareholder I want effieciently run organisations, not ones
beholden to some golden but unacheiveable idea that the world is the
same as it was in the 1950s and 1960s.

Grow up and understand that this is a global economy and we all have to
compete with China and other emerging nations. Going on strike isn't
going to make it any better.
 
Ah I see. I read the article not the photo and you read the photo and not
the article. The article was about protests against the government. Had
nothing to do with HP.
 
Which is political and has not place here

Not it is not political. Laying off people while making profits, the
lack of industrial vision,
distributing millions in stocks and stock options to some execs, the
lack
of ethics (think about ethical founds) will lead
to losses very soon.
 
Mushroom said:
This has VERY LITTLE to do with HP apart from the photo caption, but if
you want some input from those of us who work at HP then I can tell you
that the French offices have had this coming for a long time. They are
like the rest of the French, in that they seem to think the world owes
them a living - that they can work a 35 hour week and still enjoy their
50 days holiday a year.
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The standard is 25 days holiday a year not 50.
 
It is not just La Francais but most of the non-communist bloc
countries. Now the old communist bloc is mean and lean and is the new
Euro Tiger. Sure HP has problems in my opinion. I recently pointed a
friend in need of a printer to Cannon. Another friend has a HP retail
desktop in which the hdd died an early death due to heat problems
designed into the box. They tunnel the case fan directly to the cpu
allowing the rest of the machine to run too warm and thus shorten the
life of components. New hdd and it is running fine sans their dumb
fan tunnel.

If the French are so smart they would say good riddance to HP and
invite a better company to setup shop...if they can bribe them enough.
No insult meant to the HP people here as I realize it doesn't take
long for shitty management to kill the goose.

a
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Francois said:
The standard is 25 days holiday a year not 50.
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I *know* what the HP standard is. However, with French national holidays
plus the way that teh French have implemented the European Working Time
Directive which limits the number of hours you can work to 35 but lets
you "carry over" hours over the 35 per week into holidays that can mean
50 days.
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote:
||| Which is political and has not place here...
||
|| No it is not political.
||
|| The lack of industrial vision, the lach of ethics (think
about
|| ethical funds), distributing millions in stocks and stock
|| options to some execs will lead to losses very soon.
||
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i.e. Political - wish you spammers would keep you politcal
crap out of unrelated newsgroups.
 
(e-mail address removed) wrote:
||| Which is political and has not place here
||
|| Not it is not political. Laying off people while making
|| profits, the lack of industrial vision,
|| distributing millions in stocks and stock options to some
|| execs, the lack
|| of ethics (think about ethical founds) will lead
|| to losses very soon.

There are a number of newsgroups where your post would
be appreciated and on topic. The people there would be
more than happy to debate politics with you. I frequent
several and can provide you with a short list it you would
like.
 
I *know* what the HP standard is. However, with French national holidays
plus the way that teh French have implemented the European Working Time
Directive which limits the number of hours you can work to 35 but lets
you "carry over" hours over the 35 per week into holidays that can mean
50 days.
Click to expand...

So you think overtime should be a free gift to the employers?
Get serious.
 
There are a number of newsgroups where your post would
be appreciated and on topic. The people there would be
more than happy to debate politics with you. I frequent
several and can provide you with a short list it you would
like.
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I am not trying to be appreciated. Just trying to inform the investors
about the company in which they invest !
I think it is perfectly on topic.
For instance, do you only know what HP is selling ?

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