How Many Laws did I break?

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He does have a point. Some manufacturers, not all, only distribute recovery
disks with their new computers. But telling these types that they don't
think properly is like pouring gasoline on a fire.
 
Deet said:
Then you have led a very sheltered life, sonny.
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Is that right?

Well let me ask you this. If the bios is locked, how does it work when
Dell (for example) contracts out to another company like Siemens, or
Asus to build their machines? You do realize that's how it works,
right? So, one could in fact but an Asus, Gateway, and Dell and have
the exact same machine, except for name badging.
So you're telling me, Microsoft will set up a completely new set of COA
keys, each time there's an iteration? What happens when there's a bios
update?
What happens when the manufacturer issues a motherboard redesign, in the
same production run for the same model?

I'm not talking about the recovery junk, I am talking about a true
Microsoft install.
 
mike said:
Oh really I got Vista Preloaded on my computer and tried using my
recovery cds on my mothers Vista based computer and no work says these
recovery cds are not for this model please contact the manufacture for
the correct recovery disks so what the hell do you know apparently
little or nothing. They lock them to the bios to ensure the operating
system stays with that computer for the life of the computer and that is
why you do not have to activate it and can make all the hardware
upgrades you want without the activation hassles. You can not even get
the OEM Disks to install so how the hell do you know anything must be
bios locked. Get over it you people that say there is no bios locked
operating systems is dumb and foolish to say that do you ever browse HP
Dells or Microsoft's Web sites probably not grow up.
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Ok, you tried to use the *recovery* CD/DVDs on a machine it was not
designed for. That is completely different from doing an install of the
operating system from scratch.

Also, I'm guessing English is your second language, which is OK.

We need to distinguish the act of *installing* the operating system, and
doing a *recovery.* Those are two very different procedures and I think
thats where the confusion comes from.
 
mike said:
First of all when you buy an Computer from HP or Compaq all there
operating systems are locked to the Bios on all computers call HP for the
truth if that was not the case the why will an OEM HP Recovery CD not work
on other computers
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Usually it is because the controller drivers will not work for the other
computer.

it says not for this computer so what the hell do you know
 
You can you buy an MS OEM Product it comes with the product key no need to
use HPs product key I know because I bought OEM Vista for my Mothers
computer so if his is legit than why does he need the manufacture product
key and not the one that came with his purchased downloaded software just
wondering.
 
Apparently, we are talking about someone who got recovery media instead of
an OEM setup disk with his HP. Then he went on the Internet and downloaded
an ISO file of the OEM disk you are talking about. In that case, he needed
to use the manufacturer product key. The recovery disk shipped with some
computers is an image restore of the system partition to "factory defaults",
i.e. with all the useless bloatware that companies like HP ship preloaded on
their computers. As someone else pointed out, the ISO could also have been
preloaded with undesirable software.

MS also has a media replacement program, but I am not sure how it applies to
manufacturers who provide you with a recovery disk instead of a Vista OEM
disk. My Dell laptop came with a Vista OEM disk, whereas my wife's Toshiba
came with a system partition image restore. If I ever had to set up her
system from scratch, I would use my Dell OEM disk, her Toshiba OEM product
key, and Toshiba drivers off the company web site.
 
Earle said:
Apparently, we are talking about someone who got recovery media instead of
an OEM setup disk with his HP. Then he went on the Internet and downloaded
an ISO file of the OEM disk you are talking about. In that case, he needed
to use the manufacturer product key. The recovery disk shipped with some
computers is an image restore of the system partition to "factory defaults",
i.e. with all the useless bloatware that companies like HP ship preloaded on
their computers. As someone else pointed out, the ISO could also have been
preloaded with undesirable software.

MS also has a media replacement program, but I am not sure how it applies to
manufacturers who provide you with a recovery disk instead of a Vista OEM
disk. My Dell laptop came with a Vista OEM disk, whereas my wife's Toshiba
came with a system partition image restore. If I ever had to set up her
system from scratch, I would use my Dell OEM disk, her Toshiba OEM product
key, and Toshiba drivers off the company web site.
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I called Microsoft and they won't touch OEM. It was either use the
recovery media which I hate - or hit IRC. I hit IRC and downloaded an ISO.
 
"AS far as I am concerned", you are a pig-headed idiot. Does that
matter to the truth? Maybe, maybe not. If you want crapware on your
computer, that is your choice. The OP didn't, and that was HIS
choice.

But let's be frank here:
The way you see it is irrelevant, even if you were able to see clearly
through those little piggy eyes.
The way the OP and Microsoft see it is relevant, since only they are
involved in this matter.

REmoving the HP crapware may (or may not) have voided his warranty
with HP, but it didn't void his license for Vista. His license for
Vista is contained on the Certificate of Authenticity placed on his HP
machine. ONLY failing to keep the terms of the Vista license
agreement will void that license.

As long as he abides by the terms of the Microsoft license agreement,
his license is valid in MICROSOFT's eyes -- the only eyes which
matter.

Last I looked, our Windows End User LIcense Agreement says nothing
about keeping an OEM's crapware on our OEM machines to keep the terms
of the agreement.
Nothing personal, but it does not matter how *you* see it - or anyone else
for that matter. He got it installed, activated and updated. As far as MS
is concerned - the only entity who matters in this discussion - he is legit.

End of story.
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You're too nice to this guy, Mike.

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