How Do You Perform Backup

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How much can you store on a DVD?


Rod,

Sorry I've offended you so personally that you have to call me stupid
and curse me. It was my intention to get multiple opinions to best
educate myself. I own a very successful company but have never explored
backup solutions for home-based/small companies. Yours is one opinion I
will consider. Your attitude would have you dismissed at my company.
 
How much can you store on a DVD?

4.36GB or double that on dual layer.
But working with DVD's is time consuming, manual job.
They are also easy to damage, if you are not carefull enough.
I tend to use them for mid term archiving only.
 
How much can you store on a DVD?


Rod,

Sorry I've offended you so personally that you have to call me stupid
and curse me. It was my intention to get multiple opinions to best
educate myself. I own a very successful company but have never explored
backup solutions for home-based/small companies. Yours is one opinion I
will consider. Your attitude would have you dismissed at my company.
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Rod made his $ bottleing beer down under. Suggest you ensure your company
is not offering any oz' beer at your company parties. Moosehead is a good
beer. There are a few places where it is illegal to suck on a Moosehead, so
you might want to check first.


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How much can you store on a DVD?
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Usually enough to prevent the small business
going bust as a result of a fire etc.
Rod,
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Sorry I've offended you so personally
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Didnt happen. I just rubbed your nose in the fact that your claim

is a lie.
that you have to call me stupid and curse me.
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You make a stupid claim like that, I will point out that its stupid, stupid.

And I'll point out that that claim is bullshit too.

You get to like that or lump it.
It was my intention to get multiple opinions to best educate myself.
I own a very successful company but have never explored backup
solutions for home-based/small companies. Yours is one opinion I will
consider. Your attitude would have you dismissed at my company.
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I wouldnt bother with someone as stupid as you who couldnt
even manage to clearly spell out that basic question of whether
its 80G of new data every day or 80G of data of which only a
subset changes every day for quite a while.

I dont work for fools like you either, I recommend others avoid
using your services when you're clearly a terminal ****wit too.
 
I need to backup 80 GB per night and I need to store it offsite.

It's basically the same 80G with some of that 80G changing daily (for
me) BUT I do have a client that has about 70GB of new data daily so I'd
like to see what people use in both scenarios.
I DO need to take my backups (80GB total size) off-site. Most, if not
all, of the suggestions here so far do NOT allow to take backups
off-site (one fire could put a company out of business). Are small
businesses, with no server, not taking backups off-site? Are there tape
drives designed for non-servers (workstations and notebooks)? I think
HP has discontinuted all of their low end tape drives. I just can't
believe that small businesses aren't storing their backups off-site.
After what happened regarding 911 you would think that affordable
off-site backup would be available even for en small businesses.
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jhunter:
Have you considered equipping your client's desktop PC (I'm assuming it's a
desktop - if not, read no further) with (preferably) two removable hard
drives? Are you familiar with that hardware? Using a disk imaging program
such as Symantec's Norton Ghost or Acronis True Image (and there are many
others) your client could "clone" the contents of his or her working HD to
another HD on a daily basis and thus have at hand what amounts to a
bit-for-bit copy of one's working HD. It's an ideal backup system.

With reasonably modern equipment, cloning 70 GB of data (remember, this
includes the operating system, all programs and created data - in short,
everything) would take about 1 hr 20 min (more or less). The great bulk of
that time would be unattended.

With these removable HDs in their mobile racks the cloned HD can easily be
taken off premises in its removable tray. And multiple clones can be created
as well should that be desired.

If you're interested in this hardware arrangement and want further details,
so indicate.
Anna
 
I need to backup 80 GB per night and I need to store it offsite.

It's basically the same 80G with some of that 80G changing daily (for
me) BUT I do have a client that has about 70GB of new data daily so I'd
like to see what people use in both scenarios.
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What is this, a SQL database, one big file each day, lots of little ones?

What do you do with yesterday's data?

80GB of genuine new data each day is rare unless you are collecting
weather data or some such application and you'd have more than one PC
to process it.
 
Al,

To answer your question, I was curios to see what people suggested for
1) The same 80G with some of that 80G changing daily and 2) Backing up
a large (70GB) Access database file where much data is imported (sent
from a large vendor) nightly and also edited internally. The later is a
friend's company so I have no control over how their systems are setup.
In both cases, off-site storage is important.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
 
To answer your question, I was curios to see what people suggested
for 1) The same 80G with some of that 80G changing daily and 2)
Backing up a large (70GB) Access database file where much data
is imported (sent from a large vendor) nightly and also edited internally.
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Thats quite different to 70G of new data daily in the sense that
the backup needs to keep 70G of data per day indefinitely.

External hard drives would still be fine, perfectly adequate
for offsite with a bit of care in how they are packaged when
moved offsite, and if the drive is say 300G, you'd have plenty
of capacity to keep multiple days of data on the drive.

True Image would handle it fine software wise.
 
Previously said:
How much can you store on a DVD?


Sorry I've offended you so personally that you have to call me stupid
and curse me. It was my intention to get multiple opinions to best
educate myself. I own a very successful company but have never explored
backup solutions for home-based/small companies. Yours is one opinion I
will consider. Your attitude would have you dismissed at my company.
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Don't mind Rod. He has good and bad days. On bad days just about
anything can set him off. On good days he somethimes actually
gives good advice.

Arno
 
External hard drives would still be fine, perfectly adequate
for offsite with a bit of care in how they are packaged when
moved offsite, and if the drive is say 300G, you'd have plenty
of capacity to keep multiple days of data on the drive.

True Image would handle it fine software wise.
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This is what I'd do as well, since tape has so many drawbacks. A set
of HDs can be read and restored to any system, especially with the new
Acronis Universal Restore add-on (in theory - I have it but haven't
tested it yet).

You'd need to define your backup methodology, too, to figure out how
many HDs you'd need - how many generations you'll keep, what
frequency, and such.

Get a stack of HDs, bring in one a day, and take the latest archive
home (or wherever).

max
 
How much can you store on a DVD?


Rod,

Sorry I've offended you so personally that you have to call me stupid
and curse me. It was my intention to get multiple opinions to best
educate myself. I own a very successful company but have never explored
backup solutions for home-based/small companies. Yours is one opinion I
will consider.
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Your attitude would have you dismissed at my company.
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Have a very good look in the mirror, what makes you think you are
in a higher caste than he is.
What exactly makes you think he would even want to work for you.
 
Beemer said:
There are a few places where it is illegal to suck on a Moosehead, so
you might want to check first.
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Well, the antlers make it kind of difficult, don't they?
 
I need to backup 80 GB per night and I need to store it offsite.
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I use a Freecom 80gb toughdrive Pro USB drive and SyncbackSE. Then carry
drive around with me.

Clive
 
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