House nearly caught fire...

Madxgraphics said:
Bollox..As a landlord if he was registered with the NLA he would of had to by law provide you with a Electrical and gas certifiacte to say everything had been passed by an approved engineer, at the time you signed your contract. Chris why feel sorry for him..? You and the better half could have been asleep and the whole place coulfd have caught on fire, resulting in no Chris and no better half. Who would feel sorry then...?
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I only feel sorry for him because he's agreed to recarpet the entire house (£1,500) and redecorate (£1,200 for paint and £300ish for other bits) - and this was at MY request, so he had no obligation to agree to it - all i'm saying is that I appreciate that he's pouring thousands into the house for our benefit, and then suddenly there is another huge expense. Replacing the fuse box, however, is of course the most important thing.
 
Good job you guys were in when that happened! :eek:

Our block of student halls burnt down just after we moved out, a girl opposite Becky had left a bunch of candles on in her room and the window open. Something must have blown in to one of them, or knocked one over as next thing she saw was flames coming out the window :eek: Everyone got out ok though.
 
christopherpostill said:
I only feel sorry for him because he's agreed to recarpet the entire house (£1,500) and redecorate (£1,200 for paint and £300ish for other bits) - and this was at MY request, so he had no obligation to agree to it - all i'm saying is that I appreciate that he's pouring thousands into the house for our benefit, and then suddenly there is another huge expense. Replacing the fuse box, however, is of course the most important thing.
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Ok I undestand you feeling sorry for him now, that is pretty decent of him to do all that work for you..
 
Aye, I had been checking plumbers as well and sites offered an annual checkup for landlords. Average cost is about £75.00.
 
in the end the land lord is breaking the law.


Could of died in that house.


Don,t feel sorry for a land lord when saftey comes in.
 
christopherpostill said:
annually for electrics? I thought it was only gas...?
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Seems I was wrong and your right.

"Full Article

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Electrical Safety

If you let property you must ensure that the electrical system and all appliances supplied are safe - failure to comply with the Electrical Equipment (Safety) Regulations 1994 and the The Consumer Protection Act 1987 is a criminal offence and may result in:


  • A fine of £5,000 per item not complying
  • Six month's imprisonment
  • Possible manslaughter charges in the even of deaths
  • The Tenant may also sue you for civil damages
  • Your property insurance may be invalidated
These regulations are enforced by the Health & Safety Executive.

There is no statutory requirement to have annual safety checks on electrical equipment as there is with gas, but it is advisable for landlords to have periodic checks done by a qualified electrician.

Read the article "Electrical Checks - Why bother? by Grant Roy MSc MIEE, chartered electrical engineer.

LandlordGuide

It is important to insure that all electrical appliances and fittings within the property are safe and in good working order. Unlike gas regulations, there is no law that says you must have a landlord electrical safety certificate. But, should any electrical fittings or appliances within your rental property cause harm to a tenant you could be held liable. The tenant could sue you for damages and or worse you may be brought before a court for negligence under the regulations.

Manage your property well and the risks to you as landlord or agent are minimal, but manage it badly and your risks are high.

You are advised to make visual inspections yourself as landlord or agent in residential properties (record on a safety checklist) and have periodic checks carried out by a qualified electrician.


  • Keep supplied appliances to a minimum.
  • Make sure appliances supplied are complete and in working order - keep purchase receipts.
  • Pay particular attention to second hand equipment - always have these items checked.
  • Ensure that operating instructions and safety warning notices are supplied with the appliances.
  • Ensure that flexes are in good order and properly attached to appliances and plugs.
  • Ensure that earth tags are in place.
  • Ensure that plugs are of an approved type with sleeved live and neutral pins.
  • Ensure that plugs and sockets conform to BS1363 or BS1363/A for heavy duty uses.
  • Ensure that all fuses are of the correct type and rating.
  • Make sure that tenants know the location of and have access to the main consumer unit, fuses and isolator switch.
  • Make a note of all fuse ratings on the inventory.
If you are in any doubt about the wiring or the safety of any appliances consult a qualified electrician."




http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/electrical_safety.htm

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Sound advice.

I've never been able to figure out how and why but wires coming loose in terminal blocks is very common indeed.

A visual inspection of all connections within and surrounding the RCB box together with a tightness check on all terminals should be carried out at least every 24 months, in my opinion. This is purely my opinion however, and others may disagree with me.

I used to repair electrical and electronic equipment for a living. I'd hazard a guess that around 15% of faulty items I received to repair were not functioning simply because of loose wires in terminal blocks.
 
floppybootstomp said:
Sound advice.

I've never been able to figure out how and why but wires coming loose in terminal blocks is very common indeed.
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Just a wild guess here. But has it not got to do with the way the wire expands and contracts from the heat generated from the currnet flowing through the wire..?
 
floppybootstomp said:
Sound advice.

I've never been able to figure out how and why but wires coming loose in terminal blocks is very common indeed.

A visual inspection of all connections within and surrounding the RCB box together with a tightness check on all terminals should be carried out at least every 24 months, in my opinion. This is purely my opinion however, and others may disagree with me.

I used to repair electrical and electronic equipment for a living. I'd hazard a guess that around 15% of faulty items I received to repair were not functioning simply because of loose wires in terminal blocks.
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I been hyping on the same thing for years ... :thumb:

One of my pet hates is, 13amp plugs, they are still being sold. I really don't want up to and over 3kw of power being aloud to flow through any of my equipment. :rolleyes: I only have 2 items that need a 13amp plug ... can you name them? and no, even my kettle at most has a 5amp fuse. ;)

oh, and once again I say, the fuse is only there to protect the wire, NOT the appliance. :nod:


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