hosting from home

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Rob Giordano \(Crash\)

slightly ot.

got a client that wants to host from home with IIS...what are the
limitations? - i'd like to talk him out of this.
 
The first issue may be his ISP agreement which in most cases do not allow web/ftp servers on a
personal account and will get his account cancelled.

The second issue is the need to be running Windows Server, not XP, and understanding how to manage
security, etc., plus making sure the site is available 24 x7, etc.

Also he would need to be concerned speed of his connection (both directions). Example My ISP allow
me 7 MB download (incoming) but only 768 KB upload (outgoing)

incoming = requesting page from server by browser
outgoing = delivering page from server to browser

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
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If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
 
A few extra issues:

1. Needs a permanent IP address to register with InterNic.
2. Should be a dedicated machine. Other running programs may/will slow down
performance.
3. Should be an expert with Network Security. Web Server will be publicly
exposed.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
You can lead a fish to a bicycle,
but it takes a very long time,
and the bicycle has to *want* to change.
 
Hi Rob,

That's a big thing to do! Unless your client knows everything involved
(there's lots) most of which Tom and Kevin mentioned..tell him not to do it!

If he wants only his site..and perhaps a few others on a server..tell him to
look into dedicated servers with a hosting service.

--
Joe

Microsoft MVP FrontPage

FrontPage Users Forums:
http://www.timeforweb.com/frontpage
 
Thomas A. Rowe said:
The first issue may be his ISP agreement which in most cases do not allow
web/ftp servers on a personal account and will get his account cancelled.

The second issue is the need to be running Windows Server, not XP, and
understanding how to manage security, etc., plus making sure the site is
available 24 x7, etc.

Also he would need to be concerned speed of his connection (both
directions). Example My ISP allow me 7 MB download (incoming) but only 768
KB upload (outgoing)

incoming = requesting page from server by browser
outgoing = delivering page from server to browser

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
Click to expand...
There must be two Domain servers, such as:

Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS NS1.MINNESOTASHOPPER.NET
208.56.139.64 NS2.MINNESOTASHOPPER.NET 208.56.138.51
 
I have a similar question regarding using IIS. I don't want to manage a
website from home, but I would like to setup a test server at home. In Jim
Buyens book "FP 2003 Inside Out" he has a little blurp about setting up a
test site. Where can I get step by instructions on how to setup a test
site. I have an extra pc and WinXP Professional, so I have that much to
work with.

Thanks
 
All you need to do is install the IIS web server, which is a Windows
Component.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
You can lead a fish to a bicycle,
but it takes a very long time,
and the bicycle has to *want* to change.
 
Okay, that is done. I suppose you need to have FP installed and you then
create your site on that machine. Do you log onto that test machine from
another pc to run the site or what? I'm pretty new at this!!!
 
You just create your FrontPage site using the URL of the site:

http://localhost/websiteName

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
You can lead a fish to a bicycle,
but it takes a very long time,
and the bicycle has to *want* to change.
 
I think he's running XP Pro.
Isn't there an issue with concurrent connections or am I confused with using
Access db?


| The first issue may be his ISP agreement which in most cases do not allow
web/ftp servers on a
| personal account and will get his account cancelled.
|
| The second issue is the need to be running Windows Server, not XP, and
understanding how to manage
| security, etc., plus making sure the site is available 24 x7, etc.
|
| Also he would need to be concerned speed of his connection (both
directions). Example My ISP allow
| me 7 MB download (incoming) but only 768 KB upload (outgoing)
|
| incoming = requesting page from server by browser
| outgoing = delivering page from server to browser
|
| --
| ==============================================
| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| ==============================================
| If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| Microsoft Product Support Services:
| http://support.microsoft.com
| If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| ==============================================
|
| | > slightly ot.
| >
| > got a client that wants to host from home with IIS...what are the
| > limitations? - i'd like to talk him out of this.
| >
| >
|
|
 
Yes, 10 concurrent connections

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
==============================================
If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
a Service Pack or security update, please contact
Microsoft Product Support Services:
http://support.microsoft.com
If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
==============================================
 
I guess I don't understand "You just create your FrontPage site using the
URL of the site:" "Localhost" is (?)?
 
Yes, ten current connections, not to be confused with users
--
===
Tom [Pepper] Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
FrontPage Support:
http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
===
|I think he's running XP Pro.
| Isn't there an issue with concurrent connections or am I confused with
using
| Access db?
|
|
| || The first issue may be his ISP agreement which in most cases do not allow
| web/ftp servers on a
|| personal account and will get his account cancelled.
||
|| The second issue is the need to be running Windows Server, not XP, and
| understanding how to manage
|| security, etc., plus making sure the site is available 24 x7, etc.
||
|| Also he would need to be concerned speed of his connection (both
| directions). Example My ISP allow
|| me 7 MB download (incoming) but only 768 KB upload (outgoing)
||
|| incoming = requesting page from server by browser
|| outgoing = delivering page from server to browser
||
|| --
|| ==============================================
|| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
|| ==============================================
|| If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
|| a Service Pack or security update, please contact
|| Microsoft Product Support Services:
|| http://support.microsoft.com
|| If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
|| security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
|| ==============================================
||
|| || > slightly ot.
|| >
|| > got a client that wants to host from home with IIS...what are the
|| > limitations? - i'd like to talk him out of this.
|| >
|| >
||
||
|
|
 
Talking your client out of it is a really good idea. Paying a hoster $10 a
month (or less) to not have the hassle and responsibility of hosting it himself
ought to be enough to do the trick!!
 
localhost is the server on your local machine


|I guess I don't understand "You just create your FrontPage site using the
| URL of the site:" "Localhost" is (?)?
|
|
| | > You just create your FrontPage site using the URL of the site:
| >
| > http://localhost/websiteName
| >
| > --
| > HTH,
| >
| > Kevin Spencer
| > Microsoft MVP
| > .Net Developer
| > You can lead a fish to a bicycle,
| > but it takes a very long time,
| > and the bicycle has to *want* to change.
| >
| > | >> Okay, that is done. I suppose you need to have FP installed and you
then
| >> create your site on that machine. Do you log onto that test machine
from
| >> another pc to run the site or what? I'm pretty new at this!!!
| >>
| >>
| >> | >>> All you need to do is install the IIS web server, which is a Windows
| >>> Component.
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> HTH,
| >>>
| >>> Kevin Spencer
| >>> Microsoft MVP
| >>> .Net Developer
| >>> You can lead a fish to a bicycle,
| >>> but it takes a very long time,
| >>> and the bicycle has to *want* to change.
| >>>
| >>> | >>>>I have a similar question regarding using IIS. I don't want to
manage
| >>>>a website from home, but I would like to setup a test server at home.
| >>>>In Jim Buyens book "FP 2003 Inside Out" he has a little blurp about
| >>>>setting up a test site. Where can I get step by instructions on how
to
| >>>>setup a test site. I have an extra pc and WinXP Professional, so I
have
| >>>>that much to work with.
| >>>>
| >>>> Thanks
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> The first issue may be his ISP agreement which in most cases do not
| >>>>> allow web/ftp servers on a personal account and will get his account
| >>>>> cancelled.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> The second issue is the need to be running Windows Server, not XP,
and
| >>>>> understanding how to manage security, etc., plus making sure the
site
| >>>>> is available 24 x7, etc.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Also he would need to be concerned speed of his connection (both
| >>>>> directions). Example My ISP allow me 7 MB download (incoming) but
only
| >>>>> 768 KB upload (outgoing)
| >>>>>
| >>>>> incoming = requesting page from server by browser
| >>>>> outgoing = delivering page from server to browser
| >>>>>
| >>>>> --
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >>>>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >>>>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com
| >>>>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >>>>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>>
| >>>>> message | >>>>>> slightly ot.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> got a client that wants to host from home with IIS...what are the
| >>>>>> limitations? - i'd like to talk him out of this.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
 
okie doke, i grok it.
thanks.


| Yes, ten current connections, not to be confused with users
| --
| ===
| Tom [Pepper] Willett
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| ---
| FrontPage Support:
| http://www.frontpagemvps.com/
| About FrontPage 2003:
| http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
| ===
| ||I think he's running XP Pro.
|| Isn't there an issue with concurrent connections or am I confused with
| using
|| Access db?
||
||
|| ||| The first issue may be his ISP agreement which in most cases do not
allow
|| web/ftp servers on a
||| personal account and will get his account cancelled.
|||
||| The second issue is the need to be running Windows Server, not XP, and
|| understanding how to manage
||| security, etc., plus making sure the site is available 24 x7, etc.
|||
||| Also he would need to be concerned speed of his connection (both
|| directions). Example My ISP allow
||| me 7 MB download (incoming) but only 768 KB upload (outgoing)
|||
||| incoming = requesting page from server by browser
||| outgoing = delivering page from server to browser
|||
||| --
||| ==============================================
||| Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
||| ==============================================
||| If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
||| a Service Pack or security update, please contact
||| Microsoft Product Support Services:
||| http://support.microsoft.com
||| If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
||| security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
||| ==============================================
|||
message
||| ||| > slightly ot.
||| >
||| > got a client that wants to host from home with IIS...what are the
||| > limitations? - i'd like to talk him out of this.
||| >
||| >
|||
|||
||
||
|
|
 
And a server is?


Rob Giordano (Crash) said:
localhost is the server on your local machine


|I guess I don't understand "You just create your FrontPage site using the
| URL of the site:" "Localhost" is (?)?
|
|
| | > You just create your FrontPage site using the URL of the site:
| >
| > http://localhost/websiteName
| >
| > --
| > HTH,
| >
| > Kevin Spencer
| > Microsoft MVP
| > .Net Developer
| > You can lead a fish to a bicycle,
| > but it takes a very long time,
| > and the bicycle has to *want* to change.
| >
| > | >> Okay, that is done. I suppose you need to have FP installed and you
then
| >> create your site on that machine. Do you log onto that test machine
from
| >> another pc to run the site or what? I'm pretty new at this!!!
| >>
| >>
| >> | >>> All you need to do is install the IIS web server, which is a Windows
| >>> Component.
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> HTH,
| >>>
| >>> Kevin Spencer
| >>> Microsoft MVP
| >>> .Net Developer
| >>> You can lead a fish to a bicycle,
| >>> but it takes a very long time,
| >>> and the bicycle has to *want* to change.
| >>>
| >>> | >>>>I have a similar question regarding using IIS. I don't want to
manage
| >>>>a website from home, but I would like to setup a test server at
home.
| >>>>In Jim Buyens book "FP 2003 Inside Out" he has a little blurp about
| >>>>setting up a test site. Where can I get step by instructions on how
to
| >>>>setup a test site. I have an extra pc and WinXP Professional, so I
have
| >>>>that much to work with.
| >>>>
| >>>> Thanks
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>> | >>>>> The first issue may be his ISP agreement which in most cases do
not
| >>>>> allow web/ftp servers on a personal account and will get his
account
| >>>>> cancelled.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> The second issue is the need to be running Windows Server, not XP,
and
| >>>>> understanding how to manage security, etc., plus making sure the
site
| >>>>> is available 24 x7, etc.
| >>>>>
| >>>>> Also he would need to be concerned speed of his connection (both
| >>>>> directions). Example My ISP allow me 7 MB download (incoming) but
only
| >>>>> 768 KB upload (outgoing)
| >>>>>
| >>>>> incoming = requesting page from server by browser
| >>>>> outgoing = delivering page from server to browser
| >>>>>
| >>>>> --
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| >>>>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| >>>>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com
| >>>>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| >>>>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| >>>>> ==============================================
| >>>>>
| >>>>> message | >>>>>> slightly ot.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>> got a client that wants to host from home with IIS...what are the
| >>>>>> limitations? - i'd like to talk him out of this.
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>>
| >>>>
| >>>>
| >>>
| >>>
| >>
| >>
| >
| >
|
|
Click to expand...
 
follow along with the thread: IIS


| And a server is?
|
|
| | > localhost is the server on your local machine
| >
| >
| > | > |I guess I don't understand "You just create your FrontPage site using
the
| > | URL of the site:" "Localhost" is (?)?
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > You just create your FrontPage site using the URL of the site:
| > | >
| > | > http://localhost/websiteName
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > HTH,
| > | >
| > | > Kevin Spencer
| > | > Microsoft MVP
| > | > .Net Developer
| > | > You can lead a fish to a bicycle,
| > | > but it takes a very long time,
| > | > and the bicycle has to *want* to change.
| > | >
| > | > | > | >> Okay, that is done. I suppose you need to have FP installed and
you
| > then
| > | >> create your site on that machine. Do you log onto that test
machine
| > from
| > | >> another pc to run the site or what? I'm pretty new at this!!!
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >> | > | >>> All you need to do is install the IIS web server, which is a
Windows
| > | >>> Component.
| > | >>>
| > | >>> --
| > | >>> HTH,
| > | >>>
| > | >>> Kevin Spencer
| > | >>> Microsoft MVP
| > | >>> .Net Developer
| > | >>> You can lead a fish to a bicycle,
| > | >>> but it takes a very long time,
| > | >>> and the bicycle has to *want* to change.
| > | >>>
| > | >>> | > | >>>>I have a similar question regarding using IIS. I don't want to
| > manage
| > | >>>>a website from home, but I would like to setup a test server at
| > home.
| > | >>>>In Jim Buyens book "FP 2003 Inside Out" he has a little blurp
about
| > | >>>>setting up a test site. Where can I get step by instructions on
how
| > to
| > | >>>>setup a test site. I have an extra pc and WinXP Professional, so
I
| > have
| > | >>>>that much to work with.
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> Thanks
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>> | > | >>>>> The first issue may be his ISP agreement which in most cases do
| > not
| > | >>>>> allow web/ftp servers on a personal account and will get his
| > account
| > | >>>>> cancelled.
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>> The second issue is the need to be running Windows Server, not
XP,
| > and
| > | >>>>> understanding how to manage security, etc., plus making sure the
| > site
| > | >>>>> is available 24 x7, etc.
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>> Also he would need to be concerned speed of his connection (both
| > | >>>>> directions). Example My ISP allow me 7 MB download (incoming)
but
| > only
| > | >>>>> 768 KB upload (outgoing)
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>> incoming = requesting page from server by browser
| > | >>>>> outgoing = delivering page from server to browser
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>> --
| > | >>>>> ==============================================
| > | >>>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
| > | >>>>> ==============================================
| > | >>>>> If you feel your current issue is a results of installing
| > | >>>>> a Service Pack or security update, please contact
| > | >>>>> Microsoft Product Support Services:
| > | >>>>> http://support.microsoft.com
| > | >>>>> If the problem can be shown to have been caused by a
| > | >>>>> security update, then there is usually no charge for the call.
| > | >>>>> ==============================================
| > | >>>>>
in
| > | >>>>> message | > | >>>>>> slightly ot.
| > | >>>>>>
| > | >>>>>> got a client that wants to host from home with IIS...what are
the
| > | >>>>>> limitations? - i'd like to talk him out of this.
| > | >>>>>>
| > | >>>>>>
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>>
| > | >>>
| > | >>>
| > | >>
| > | >>
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
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