Help with options for data back-up Raid SCSI?? Just some ideas

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The data drives that failed were from each PC.
These were both older (cheap) large capcity drives.
They were both IDE

My SCSI drives are older, and have never had problems.
The SCSI drives store WinXP and program files (one drive for each)
Large SCSI drives are expensive, so I chose IDE for storage.
SCIS is faster, so I have 15k rpm (smaller drives) for WinXP and
program files.
 
Fishhead said:
The data drives that failed were from each PC.
These were both older (cheap) large capcity drives.
They were both IDE

My SCSI drives are older, and have never had problems.
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They will eventually. BUT that has nothing to do with the issue at hand.
The SCSI drives store WinXP and program files (one drive for each)
Large SCSI drives are expensive, so I chose IDE for storage.
SCIS is faster, so I have 15k rpm (smaller drives)
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Triple cost small 15K RPM SCSI HDs only outperform single top ATA HDs by
a small amount in video/photo editing performance. ATA RAID 0 is big and
inexpensive and blows a single expensive 15K RPM SCSI HD away in video
editing and photo editing performance. You bought the myth of SCSI.
 
Ron Reaugh said:
Fishhead said:
The data drives that failed were from each PC.
These were both older (cheap) large capcity drives.
They were both IDE
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The SCSI drives store WinXP and program files (one drive for each)
Large SCSI drives are expensive, so I chose IDE for storage.
SCIS is faster, so I have 15k rpm (smaller drives)
Click to expand...

Triple cost small 15K RPM SCSI HDs only outperform single top ATA HDs by
a small amount in video/photo editing performance. ATA RAID 0 is big and
inexpensive and blows a single expensive 15K RPM SCSI HD away in video
editing and photo editing performance. You bought the myth of SCSI.
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Clueless. He uses SCSI for the OS, not video.

The prefered configuration for video/audio production is independent 7200 drives, not RAID 0.
 
Fishhead said:
The threat I am worried about is HD failure..
Why wouldn't 2 PC's cover this??
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Common malware(virus/trojan/hacker/etc.) attack or theft or physical
calamity to the room including lightening/power surge are primary threats to
the HDs. OFFSITE BACKUP covers all these AND it covers a HD failure.
 
Fishhead said:
Maybe cause my SCSI drives are 15k and my IDE are 7.2k
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Late model top 7200K RPM ATA are faster in single user workstation
including video/photo editing usage than an early 15K RPM SCSI HD. Then
there's the 10K RPM ATA Raptor.
 
I have no back-up...
unless I start buring to DVD...
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I could care less about an day/hour of work.
It is the total drive
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Then completely automated backup to another drive is the answer.

Best done overnight because otherwise the backup will
be a significant load on the system while you are using it.

Best done to a SATA drive because you can choose to
unplug that, hot, if you say want to provide a bit more
security against theft of the system when you are out etc.

If you are confident that you cant be robbed and that the risk
of fire and flood are very low, an internal drive would be fine.

RAID is no use to you, its more hassle than its worth.
 
The data drives that failed were from each PC.
These were both older (cheap) large capcity drives.
They were both IDE
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OK, then it was likely bad luck that you lost 2 in 4 days.
My SCSI drives are older, and have never had problems.
The SCSI drives store WinXP and program files (one drive for each)
Large SCSI drives are expensive, so I chose IDE for storage.
SCIS is faster, so I have 15k rpm (smaller drives) for WinXP
and program files.
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You dont actually need the higher speed for XP and program files.
 
Eric Gisin said:
Ron Reaugh said:
Fishhead said:
The data drives that failed were from each PC.
These were both older (cheap) large capcity drives.
They were both IDE
Click to expand...
The SCSI drives store WinXP and program files (one drive for each)
Large SCSI drives are expensive, so I chose IDE for storage.
SCIS is faster, so I have 15k rpm (smaller drives)
Click to expand...

Triple cost small 15K RPM SCSI HDs only outperform single top ATA HDs by
a small amount in video/photo editing performance. ATA RAID 0 is big and
inexpensive and blows a single expensive 15K RPM SCSI HD away in video
editing and photo editing performance. You bought the myth of SCSI.
Click to expand...

Clueless. He uses SCSI for the OS, not video.
Click to expand...


Gisin troll gets it wrong as usual. Expensive SCSI for the OS drive in
single user workstation usage contributes little to performance over an
ATA HD.
The prefered configuration for video/audio production is independent 7200
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drives, not RAID 0.

Even idiots get a true/false right half the time.
 
Your replies are great... but there are no off site locations.

Where is off-site going to be?
Your house?
A hole in my background?

I only own one location.... Thats my house.
 
Fishhead said:
Your replies are great... but there are no off site locations.

Where is off-site going to be?
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Car trunk. Relative's/friend's house. Desk/locker at work. Storage unit.
ETC.
 
Ron Reaugh said:
Eric Gisin said:
Ron Reaugh said:
Triple cost small 15K RPM SCSI HDs only outperform single top ATA HDs by
a small amount in video/photo editing performance. ATA RAID 0 is big and
inexpensive and blows a single expensive 15K RPM SCSI HD away in video
editing and photo editing performance. You bought the myth of SCSI.
Click to expand...

Clueless. He uses SCSI for the OS, not video.
Click to expand...


Gisin troll gets it wrong as usual. Expensive SCSI for the OS drive in
single user workstation usage contributes little to performance over an
ATA HD.
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I didn't say anything about perfomance. But 15K is faster than any IDE for power users.

Same old troll song. Clueless as ever.
 
I figure my apps and WinXP are safe on single SCSI drives. and if they
crash I can always reinstall from CD... (which isn't always a bad
thing)

How do I upgrade/replace my IDE data drives.
2 PC's with their own data.
I would like redundant data swapped between each PC.
My photos I work with on PC 1 are backed up on PC2
My video's I work with on PC 2 are backed up on PC1

SCSI SATA IDE RAID?? What do I need?
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You need a network connection between those two PCs and
enough storage (on each) to keep a copy of other PC data.
You might need to run them continously and schedule
automatic data transfer at night (XCOPY might be enough).
Thats all.
 
I always thought the access times on the SCSI drives were the lowest..

And then there is the low CPU use.
 
Gisin troll gets it wrong as usual. Expensive SCSI for the OS drive in
single user workstation usage contributes little to performance over an
ATA HD.
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I didn't say anything about perfomance. But 15K is faster than any IDE for
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power users.

A triple cost late model 15kRPM SCSI HD is a little faster BUT the much less
expensive dual drive ATA RAID 0 is faster than any single drive 15K RPM
solution.
 
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