*help* new monitor does not like my radeon card

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just got a new 20 in lcd monitor.
its native resolution is 1400 x 1050
I have the all-in-wonder radeon wonder card and it only has resolution up to
1280 x 1024
suggestions on what to do?
right now I am running 1024 x 768m this size seems best for me.
I am running windows 98SE( yes I LOVE this version, my games are very happy
running on this version)
anyway, the text is just not 'sharp' , like its ghosted.
I have searched ATI site, and other places bu tcannot find a fix to this, or
driver. what am I missing? do I need a new video card? , but then what about
the 98SE thing, I don't see more updaed drivers than I have.
 
just got a new 20 in lcd monitor.
its native resolution is 1400 x 1050
I have the all-in-wonder radeon wonder card and it only has resolution up to
1280 x 1024
suggestions on what to do?
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Run the driver disk that should have come with the display.


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*muffin* said:
just got a new 20 in lcd monitor.
its native resolution is 1400 x 1050
I have the all-in-wonder radeon wonder card and it only has
resolution up to 1280 x 1024
suggestions on what to do?
right now I am running 1024 x 768m this size seems best for me.
I am running windows 98SE( yes I LOVE this version, my games are very
happy running on this version)
anyway, the text is just not 'sharp' , like its ghosted.
I have searched ATI site, and other places bu tcannot find a fix to
this, or driver. what am I missing? do I need a new video card? , but
then what about the 98SE thing, I don't see more updaed drivers than
I have.
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Try the latest drivers for Win9x. In my opinion, all Win9x are crap. I've
never looked back after I stepped up to first 2k, then XP.
You can easily navigate here through www.ati.com .

I found them here;
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27

If this doesnt work, try powerstrip.
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,6241-order,1-page,1-c,alldownloads/description.html

Good luck!
 
I'd look for monitor drivers. Since the AIW 9xxx and newer all support
higher resolutions than 1280x1024, it must be windows telling the card that
the monitor can't go any higher. Also, it's been a while since I've used 98
but I think there's a check box in the display properties that says
something like "hide unsupported modes". Uncheck that and your resolution
should be available.

Scott
 
shoot I guess I forgot to mention I have the AIW radeon 8500.
uhhhh should upgrading to the 9xxx's fix this?
 
no disk with display.

when I first installed it, it seemed to go "OK" windows found driver for
it, but I am not sure 'if' I did something playing around with the ati
settings, since when I reboot the computer tells me it found an unknown
device, & wants to install it, but I can't figure out what to look for,
since it doesn't seem to find drivers on its own. arrghhhhh. so I cancel.
(but it didn't look anydifferent than when I 1st installed it.)
 
I understand that win95 for some is crap... but I really like it. plus I
have games I still want to play that will only use win95/98 system ( I did
not think there was a fix to the newer OS to handle these..... if I am
mistaken, please point me in that direction)

ok, I have searched the ATI site for drivers, it looks like the NEWEST ones
for win98 is from 2005, I am pretty sure I have the newest updates from
their site when I installed my card last year. uh,, ok, how can I be sure,
I know there is a way to tell what drivers, (looking through the tabs of my
ati properties I can't seem to find it)
 
Which AIW Radeon? Which interface (analog VGA or DVI)?

Re: "the text is just not 'sharp' , like its ghosted"

There are two possible explanations; it's possible that both are in play.

First, if you are using an analog interface (VGA analog 15-pin
connector), MOST of the monitor cables cause analog ghosting because
they are not of adequate quality (this will be much worse if you use an
extension cable).

Second, ANY TIME that you run at a resolution other than the native
resolution of the LCD panel, the dispaly has to be scaled, and this
ALWAYS degrades quality and sharpness.

For many reasons, you may be forced to move to Windows XP and also to
upgrade your video card. I still run 98SE also, on this system (it's
dual boot), but XP is a dramatically better OS than 98SE and it's really
past time to move to XP for your mainstream applications. [Of course it
goes without saying that XP itself is going to be replaced by Vista next
year].

I don't have a solution for you on the resolution issue, and you may
need to replace the video card to support that resolution. Also, if the
monitor has DVI, you should use (move to, if necessary) a DVI interface.
 
no disk with display.
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Odd, I just got a ViewSonic 19" widescreen a month ago,
and it did have a CD. Installed the correct settings easily.

What make is your display? Did you check their website?




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*muffin* said:
shoot I guess I forgot to mention I have the AIW radeon 8500.
uhhhh should upgrading to the 9xxx's fix this?
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No... 8500 is equal to at least 9200 and 9000. If you dont need more 3D
speed, upgrading is useless. The 8500 series usessame driver versions as the
latest ATI cards.

Like I suggested, if the latest ATI driver doesn't fix it, try Powerstrip.
You can make a 'custom resolution' with that utility.
 
No... 8500 is equal to at least 9200 and 9000. If you dont need more 3D
speed, upgrading is useless. The 8500 series usessame driver versions as the
latest ATI cards.

Like I suggested, if the latest ATI driver doesn't fix it, try Powerstrip.
You can make a 'custom resolution' with that utility.
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Best advice in this whole thread and it will solve the OP's problem, unless
the ghosting is caused by a monitor extension cable.

It always kills me when someone runs into a problem and the first thing
people recommend is to upgrade an OS. The OP clearly stated a preference for
98 so they have to work around that constraint.
 
It's really irrelevant whether the monitor comes with a disk or not. A
modern LCD monitor communicates with the video card to which it is
connected over the "DDC channel" (DDC = display data channel), a special
2-way serial port so that the monitor and display card can exchange
information about which resolutions and refresh rates they can BOTH
support. The "disks" that monitors sometimes come with are not true
drivers but rather simply text files that contain the same information
exchanged over the DDC channel, but modern systems use the DDC
information and ignore the static information from the disks.
 
Re: "Like I suggested, if the latest ATI driver doesn't fix it, try
Powerstrip. You can make a 'custom resolution' with that utility."

While trying Powerstrip is good advice, in this case the display card
probably really doesn't support a resolution that high .... that modern
display may well have more pixels on it's screen than the largest
display that existed when the AIW 8500 hardware was designed.
 
I understand that win95 for some is crap... but I really like it. plus
I have games I still want to play that will only use win95/98 system (
I did not think there was a fix to the newer OS to handle these.....
if I am mistaken, please point me in that direction)

ok, I have searched the ATI site for drivers, it looks like the NEWEST
ones for win98 is from 2005, I am pretty sure I have the newest
updates from their site when I installed my card last year. uh,, ok,
how can I be sure, I know there is a way to tell what drivers,
(looking through the tabs of my ati properties I can't seem to find
it)
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You'll find your card details on ATI's website:

http://www.ati.com/products/discontinued.html

The specs tab shows 2048x1536 as max resolution; does not show 1400 x
1050.

AFAIK the latest drivers for 98 are 5.2; you can see what you have on
the options tab.

My 8500LE has the same max resolution according to ATI's website, but
the adapter tab on my pc (XP) shows a max of 1280 x 1024 on the "list
all modes" on the adapter tab. That is the "limitation" of my 19" LCD.
XP had no problems identifying my display; I don't know if a 6 year old
OS can do the same.

When I added an lcd (no disk)to a win95 box a few years ago, I had to
get a file from the display manufacturer; you could try them.

Good Luck

Dave


Thomas said:
Try the latest drivers for Win9x. In my opinion, all Win9x are crap.
I've never looked back after I stepped up to first 2k, then XP.
You can easily navigate here through www.ati.com .

I found them here;
Click to expand...
https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowled
ge&fo lderID=27
If this doesnt work, try powerstrip.
Click to expand...
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,6241-order,1-page,1-c,alldown
loads /description.html
Click to expand...
 
yea tried the powerstrip
it let me make a NEW custom resolution, (1400x 1050) but it didn't make any
difference , in fact it was probably worse, since now everything was soooooo
teeeny on my screen I had to make the icons bigger & also all the
text.(which I probably would have to anyway doing this, right???( BUT when
I went to web pages the text was wayyyyyyy too small to read comfortably)..
so anyway I went back to the 1024x768.
now after trying to get some info from ATI they suggested the radeon 9600
series,, it should both let me get to the resolution & also run off of
win98..... but ... it is not an all-in-wonder card.<dang>.... & **WILL** I
still have the problem of eeentsy web page font?? or am I missing something?

((alright I 'might' eventually go to winxp,, but I'll probably dual boot
first to see if I have problems with running some of my software))
 
*muffin* said:
yea tried the powerstrip
it let me make a NEW custom resolution, (1400x 1050) but it didn't
make any difference , in fact it was probably worse, since now
everything was soooooo teeeny on my screen I had to make the icons
bigger & also all the text.(which I probably would have to anyway
doing this, right???( BUT when I went to web pages the text was
wayyyyyyy too small to read comfortably).. so anyway I went back to
the 1024x768. now after trying to get some info from ATI they
suggested the radeon 9600 series,, it should both let me get to the
resolution & also run off of win98..... but ... it is not an
all-in-wonder card.<dang>.... & **WILL** I still have the problem of
eeentsy web page font?? or am I missing something?

((alright I 'might' eventually go to winxp,, but I'll probably dual
boot first to see if I have problems with running some of my
software))
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Well, if 1400x1050 is a too high resolution for your eyes at 20", you
shouldn't have bought it :-) My girlfriend had that resolution on her 15"
laptop screen, and will never want anything less :-)
A 1280x1024 19" might be better for your eyes.

About the blurry part: you probly need to 'sync' the screen. 'Auto-adjust'
is supported on most screens. This will align the signal to the exact
location of the screen 'dots'.
 
You are probably not adjusting the size of things correctly. What you
want to do is run at the native resolution and have Windows adjust the
DPI scaling. This setting is found in Display properties, settings /
advanced / general / DPI settings. Select custom and drag the ruler as
desired.
 
It's really irrelevant whether the monitor comes with a disk or not. A
modern LCD monitor communicates with the video card to which it is
connected over the "DDC channel" (DDC = display data channel),
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Which is TOTALLY irrelevant!

I have an ATI Radeon 9250, and a ViewSonic 19" flatpanel display.

I just reinstalled Win2K on a system, and it DID NOT detect the
1440x900 display mode that is native to the ViewSonic.

The CD that came WITH the display worked as intended and the
system now does 1440x900.

I have absolutely NO doubt that the original poster can find a
'driver' for his display, and has wasted MUCH time and energy,
and suffered MUCH frustration at being told he needs to upgrade
his OS and all the other crap that has been posted.



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