Help me keep this drive working long enough to rescue data from it...

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It works, I change an almost identical board to a bad drive and it
fix'd it right up. Grab'd what I want'd the put the board back on the
good drive, no problem.
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It isnt always that easy. Some have found that they cant even
swap the logic card between to identical brand new drives.
 
It works, I change an almost identical board to a bad drive and it
fix'd it right up. Grab'd what I want'd the put the board back on the
good drive, no problem.
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so far so good,
try this trick on Seagate Barracuda IV and tell me what hapened :)

--
Alan Kakareka
Data Recovery Service
786-253-8286 cell
http://www.247recovery.com
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make seagate terminal:
http://hddguru.com/content/en/articles/2005.10.01-Seagate-RS-232-adapter-schematic/

in T level,
give commands:
..
;
ctrl+a
`
%

you will have a log something simmilar like this:

=========
Interface task reset
1024k x 16 buffer detected
ALPINE - 1_Disk S.15 01-16-03 11:51

Buzz - Head Mask 000F - Switch to full int.
Spin Ready
3.04 03-10-03 14:57
(P)PATA Reset

Pgm=00 Trk=00033(00033).0(1).001(000) Zn=0 Err=00 ErCt=0000 Hlth=0008
CHlth=0000 Ready LBA=00000000

Age=50 Type=21 MxCyl=16358 MxHd=1 MxSct=44C BSz=0000 TCode=0000

:5000000821000001 AX`3JV0X3N0' "000000000000"0E9CB-0EA4A
SRAM Ovly = Diag

Rbit Hard Firm Soft OTF Raw Rhdr Wbit Whrd Wrty Whdr
Limit 10.2 10.2 9.5 8.0 0.0 5.0 7.4 9.2 9.2 6.5 7.4
Hd 0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
Hd 1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
===========

then based on that log start looking for info ...

--
Alan Kakareka
Data Recovery Service
786-253-8286 cell
http://www.247recovery.com
--
 
|>> It works, I change an almost identical board to a bad drive and it
|>> fix'd it right up. Grab'd what I want'd the put the board back on the
|>> good drive, no problem.

|>so far so good,
|>try this trick on Seagate Barracuda IV and tell me what hapened :)

hummm.... well.... Ok, send me the drives and I'll give it a go.
 
You can put a HD in a freezer and it will sometimes work just one last
time to get data off. This does scrap it completely though when it
warms up again. It reduces the head gap and restores some readability
for a short time.
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Go to an electronics shop and get a can of freeze spray. Maybe Radio Shack
still has it. It's far colder than either regular air or the freezer, and
will verify and heat-related failures as well.

With this, you can keep the components frozen. You might even be able to
identify the specific component causing the trouble, then just keep that one
cold while your transfer runs.

-John O
 
Brian said:
I don't have an identical drive, but in general, does this work? I've
thought about doing something like this, but I haven't wanted to risk
it. How identical do the drives have to be - same exact model number,
or is the same product family good enough? What's the risk that the
good controller board I swap in could also end up damaged by the
procedure?
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Generally it works, yes. The drives should be an exact match if at all
possible. You can sometimes get away with a model revision, but I don't
recommend it. Their's always risk of damaging the electronics when you
mess with them, yes. Usually it's a static electric shock the user
kills one with.

It really sounds like your logic board/controller is going south on
you, possibly from a cold solder joint and/or voltage regulator IC.
 
Meat said:
Or the OP could run the fixall Bughunter on it.
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BugHunter isn't for data recovery nor hard drive diagnostics, repair.
Do be a good troll, and RTFM. Thanks.
 
John said:
Not joking here: freeze the drive (literally, in the refridgetrator!) and
connect it while ice-cold. Wrap in a few plastic bags before you put it
in the fridge. I read this in a NG once and some months ago I came across
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Heh.. So this is a newish trick to you huh? :)
a drive with the same symptoms. I tried it (I didn't care if the drive
would die completely, as I always have several working backups) and
amazingly, yes, I could retrieve the data from it.
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It's not amazing, it's science... shrug
 
BugHunter isn't for data recovery nor hard drive diagnostics, repair. Do
be a good troll, and RTFM. Thanks.
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Don't be such a ****ing imbecile and recognize a joke when you see it.
 
|>I've got a Seagate ST3200822AS SATA drive in an HP Media Center PC
|>m1170n. The drive's controller is ailing - when the drive works it
|>works slowly, but after it's in use for one or two minutes it suddenly
|>disappears from the bus, and the PC can no longer detect it (not even
|>in the BIOS menus) until I power off / power on. I've tried this drive
|>in two different PCs, and it has the same symptoms in each.

Seems heat related, the circuit board heats up and something
disconnects.
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The whole board likely isn't heating up. A power ic probably is.
In the same vein as John Holmes, might use a can of air (what you
remove dust with) and spray it on the circuit board to cool it down.
grab what you want if it work.
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grab while you can you mean. YOu freeze that overheating circuit well
enough, it breaks for good. :)
While I've never seen this work on a hard drive or had the chance to.
I've seen a modem made to work this way, errors would start to show up
a shot of air on the chips and it would work fine for a while.
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I've seen it tried, your suggestion sort of works. Data can be
recovered, but usually on the 2nd or 3rd spray, you literally crack the
bad component, magic smoke leaves it and your done.
 
Alan said:
try this trick on Seagate Barracuda IV and tell me what hapened :)
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With the seagate,it has to be an identical board. :) If not, bad things
happen to the drive and the data contained on it. *grin* Even a
revision change with the board is enough for the wonderful fire show.
 
Meat said:
Don't be such a ****ing imbecile and recognize a joke when you see it.
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One can never be sure when it comes to you. :) Did you checkout those
torrents yet? I should have asked if you even do the torrent thing
before suggesting them... My bad.
 
|>so far so good,
|>try this trick on Seagate Barracuda IV and tell me what hapened :)

hummm.... well.... Ok, send me the drives and I'll give it a go.
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Have a small fire extinguisher handy? :)

Make damn sure the boards are identical if you do this Penny, no
revision changes.. Absolutely must be identical. Alan is pulling a fast
one on you. :)
 
John said:
Rhonda Lea Kirk "contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:


New acronym found.
COL
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That'll come in handy. I do a lot of it when I'm around these parts. :)

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

If you ever need some proof that time can heal your wounds,
just step inside my heart and walk around these rooms;
where the shadows used to be.... Mary Chapin Carpenter
 
Meat said:
Don't be such a ****ing imbecile and recognize a joke when you see it.
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I would put that in the same category as convincing Mara that she's a
troll, Mr. Plow.

Not very likely.

rl
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

If you ever need some proof that time can heal your wounds,
just step inside my heart and walk around these rooms;
where the shadows used to be.... Mary Chapin Carpenter
 
John said:
"contributed" in 24hoursupport.helpdesk:


You're so stupid, If you had a brain you'd take it out and play with it.
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Science wasn't a subject you did well in was it? *grin*

Btw, that freezing hard drives trick is very ehh, old... Most techies,
even high schoolers already know about it. heh..

Say John, do you know why the drive works for awhile when you freeze
it? or, did you not read that far?
 
Rhonda said:
I would put that in the same category as convincing Mara that she's a
troll, Mr. Plow.

Not very likely.
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You really need help Rhonda... Seriously, your one ****ed up
individual.
when your not usenet wh0ring, your just making completely assinine
posts.
 
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|>[email protected] wrote:
|>
|>> |>so far so good,
|>> |>try this trick on Seagate Barracuda IV and tell me what hapened :)

|>> hummm.... well.... Ok, send me the drives and I'll give it a go.

|>Have a small fire extinguisher handy? :)
|>
|>Make damn sure the boards are identical if you do this Penny, no
|>revision changes.. Absolutely must be identical. Alan is pulling a fast
|>one on you. :)

Shhhh, I'm just after the drives...

(you do need to work on your sense of humor).
 
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