Help for newbie needed please

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we have just got a new pc with vista pre loaded, but no instalation disks, if
i wanted to re format and re partition the drives is there any way of
reloading vista without the instalation disks, i created a backup on first
running vista will this do the trick or am i best not to do the re-partition
incase of loosing vista. thanks
 
Best to contact the vendor and either ask for a recovery set, and/or ask
what provision they make for recovery of your system 'back to factory'..
btw, have you looked through any documentation supplied with your new
computer?


Sarah said:
we have just got a new pc with vista pre loaded, but no instalation disks,
if
i wanted to re format and re partition the drives is there any way of
reloading vista without the instalation disks, i created a backup on first
running vista will this do the trick or am i best not to do the
re-partition
incase of loosing vista. thanks
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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
| we have just got a new pc with vista pre loaded, but no instalation disks, if
| i wanted to re format and re partition the drives is there any way of
| reloading vista without the instalation disks, i created a backup on first
| running vista will this do the trick or am i best not to do the re-partition
| incase of loosing vista. thanks

Was the PC a "Dell" ? Started a friend off on their new Dell yesterday, and noticed that they had included the "OEM CD" as a partition "D" on the hard drive.
The only OS type CD Supplied was a "Dell Utilities and drivers" (Hopefully bootable, with instructions how to "recover" to a reformatted "C" partition. :-)
 
there was very minimal documentation, garentee and health and safety info and
that was it no info booklet etc at all
 
Sarah said:
we have just got a new pc with vista pre loaded, but no instalation disks, if
i wanted to re format and re partition the drives is there any way of
reloading vista without the instalation disks, i created a backup on first
running vista will this do the trick or am i best not to do the re-partition
incase of loosing vista. thanks
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Reading between the lines, I sense an ulterior motive for your question
;o) If you'll tell us what you really want to accomplish, we can give
you better advice.
 
Sarah

This is the UK Acer website.. it has ACER contact info..

http://www.acer.co.uk/acereuro/page...en&ctx3=-1&ctx4=United+Kingdom&crc=3268984370

There is also a section called 'driver downloads, utilities and guides'

http://support.acer-euro.com/

You should find documentation regarding the recovery process and a whole lot
more in and amongst stuff here

Good Luck..



Sarah said:
there was very minimal documentation, garentee and health and safety info
and
that was it no info booklet etc at all
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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
Sarah said:
we have just got a new pc with vista pre loaded, but no instalation disks,
if
i wanted to re format and re partition the drives is there any way of
reloading vista without the instalation disks, i created a backup on first
running vista will this do the trick or am i best not to do the
re-partition
incase of loosing vista. thanks
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The computer manufacturer (OEM) is required to provide some means to restore
the system: either an installation DVD, a recovery CD/DVD and/or a hidden
partition on the hard drive. Contact the computer's tech support for info
on what they provide and how to use it.
 
Got this from here http://mindprod.com/jgloss/windowsvista.html

The most infuriating thing about Vista is the fraudluent alleged bundling of
Vista when you buy a new PC, e.g. from Acer. It does not actually include
Vista. Instead you get a pre-installed Vista and an inaccessible disk image
to restore the machine to factory conditions.

Sarah said:
no it's a acer t180
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yesterday, and noticed that they had included the "OEM CD" as a partition
"D" on the hard drive.(Hopefully bootable, with instructions how to "recover" to a reformatted "C"
partition. :-)
 
don't look said:
Got this from here http://mindprod.com/jgloss/windowsvista.html

The most infuriating thing about Vista is the fraudluent alleged bundling
of
Vista when you buy a new PC, e.g. from Acer. It does not actually include
Vista. Instead you get a pre-installed Vista and an inaccessible disk
image
to restore the machine to factory conditions.
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Why is this fraudulent? Yes it does include a version of Vista, an OEM
version. Additionally the computer maker is required to provide some means
to restore the system to the condition it was in when received from the
factory. They have three options for this and the OEM decides which one to
provide.

1. Installation DVD.
2. Recovery CD/DVD (often times in conjunction with #3.)
3. Recovery partition (sometimes hidden) on the hard drive which contains
an image of the drive as received from the factory.

If only #3 is present one invokes the recovery procedure by pressing a key
or key combination during startup. In any event check the computer
documentation or check with the computer tech support for the exact
procedure established by the OEM to restore the system.

This is the exact same situation as was the case for computers with XP
pre-installed by the OEM. Personally I do not like this process, and prefer
to have the installation DVD (for Vista) or CD (for XP), but it's not
fraudulent. The buyer needs to research what they are getting before the
purchase.
 
you what ?i want to have 4 seperate partitions my stuff my daughters , my
husbands and work i learned me and xp by re formatting re installing and
tinkering just want to be able to do the same
 
so is that comet or acer am confused

Rock said:
The computer manufacturer (OEM) is required to provide some means to restore
the system: either an installation DVD, a recovery CD/DVD and/or a hidden
partition on the hard drive. Contact the computer's tech support for info
on what they provide and how to use it.
Click to expand...
 
Sarah said:
so is that comet or acer am confused
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Lol..so am I since I have no idea who/what Comet is as this is the first you
have mentioned it. Is Comet where you bought it, but it's an Acer laptop?
If that's the case then the OEM is Acer. Contact their tech support.

Normally the restore/reinstallation process if no CD/DVD is provided is
accomplished by means of a hidden or not hidden partition on the hard drive
that has an image of the drive as received from the factory. The recovery
process is started by pressing some key or keystroke combination during
startup. In some instances you can make a recovery DVD, and the system
prompts you to do so the first time (or few times) the system is started.

Normally with these schemes, the drive is wiped and restored to the factory
condition, meaning all partitions (except for the recovery partition) are
removed. Some offer a non destructive recovery. So you really need to
contact Acer tech support for detailed info on how the recovery works.
 
Comet is an electrical domestic appliance store that dabbles with
computers.. getting sense out of them when buying a TV or chest freezer is
bad enough.. :-)


Rock said:
Lol..so am I since I have no idea who/what Comet is as this is the first
you have mentioned it. Is Comet where you bought it, but it's an Acer
laptop? If that's the case then the OEM is Acer. Contact their tech
support.

Normally the restore/reinstallation process if no CD/DVD is provided is
accomplished by means of a hidden or not hidden partition on the hard
drive that has an image of the drive as received from the factory. The
recovery process is started by pressing some key or keystroke combination
during startup. In some instances you can make a recovery DVD, and the
system prompts you to do so the first time (or few times) the system is
started.

Normally with these schemes, the drive is wiped and restored to the
factory condition, meaning all partitions (except for the recovery
partition) are removed. Some offer a non destructive recovery. So you
really need to contact Acer tech support for detailed info on how the
recovery works.
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Mike Hall
MS MVP Windows Shell/User
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
 
Mike Hall said:
Comet is an electrical domestic appliance store that dabbles with
computers.. getting sense out of them when buying a TV or chest freezer is
bad enough.. :-)
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Ah, no wonder I didn't recognize it.
 
don't look wrote:
....
The most infuriating thing about Vista is the fraudluent alleged bundling of
Vista when you buy a new PC, e.g. from Acer. It does not actually include
Vista. Instead you get a pre-installed Vista and an inaccessible disk image
to restore the machine to factory conditions.
Click to expand...

I got this link from a different post by Roeddy Green:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx

Roeddy says that MS charges $13 US for the CD set with the full Vista
install. I didn't go far enough on the website to confirm that price,
but it seems reasonable enough if it's accurate.
 
Sarah said:
i want to have 4 seperate partitions my stuff my daughters , my
husbands and work i learned me and xp by re formatting re installing and
tinkering just want to be able to do the same
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Ah! You don't need to reformat or reinstall to do that. You can use a
program like Acronis Disk Director or BootItNG to shrink the Vista
partition and then create more partitions in the empty disk space.

But, you can also check this link to see if it might help you:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx
If this is helpful to you, let us know so we can tell other people.
 
Rock said:
Why is this fraudulent? Yes it does include a version of Vista, an OEM
version. Additionally the computer maker is required to provide some means
to restore the system to the condition it was in when received from the
factory. They have three options for this and the OEM decides which one to
provide.

1. Installation DVD.
2. Recovery CD/DVD (often times in conjunction with #3.)
3. Recovery partition (sometimes hidden) on the hard drive which contains
an image of the drive as received from the factory.

If only #3 is present one invokes the recovery procedure by pressing a key
or key combination during startup. In any event check the computer
documentation or check with the computer tech support for the exact
procedure established by the OEM to restore the system.

This is the exact same situation as was the case for computers with XP
pre-installed by the OEM. Personally I do not like this process, and prefer
to have the installation DVD (for Vista) or CD (for XP), but it's not
fraudulent. The buyer needs to research what they are getting before the
purchase.
Click to expand...

Don't know.I didn't write it.Check the link for the author.
 
Don said:
don't look wrote:
...


I got this link from a different post by Roeddy Green:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/1033/ordermedia/default.mspx

Roeddy says that MS charges $13 US for the CD set with the full Vista
install. I didn't go far enough on the website to confirm that price,
but it seems reasonable enough if it's accurate.
Click to expand...

Why should the OP spend any money?
OEM computers with a hidden restoration partition come with a
utility to create a recovery DVD (or CDs).
 
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