HELP!! 2100 or 2700???

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Tod said:
Motherboard ? Asus lists A7S266 or A7V333, but not A7S333, recheck
your motherboard model.
It looks like the only AMD XP 2700+ sold, is the one with the 166 bus
speed. You may try to return the 2700/333 and get a 2600/266
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You gotta love these people who purchase processors without first
establishing whether their board can handle it. That board cannot take a
2700+. As Tod said, you may attempt to return it, but - usually - a company
will only take a CPU back if it's their error - not the customer's; and the
fault is clearly yours, because you failed to check whether your board was
capable of running the chip.

Best you can do is eBay, IMNSHO.
 
High end processor support for the A7S333

Athlon XP 2000+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2600+(266FSB)(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004
 
Tod said:
High end processor support for the A7S333

Athlon XP 2000+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2600+(266FSB)(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004
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What the fugger is a 'Thorton'?!
 
persona non grata said:
What the fugger is a 'Thorton'?!
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It appears that the Thorton is a Barton core with half the cache disabled.
I would assume that when AMD tests a Barton core and only half the L2 cache
will work,
it disables the bad half (leaving 256K) selling it as a Thorton, instead of
having to through
away the whole processor.
 
I bought a new AMD Athlon XP 2700+... and the sticker on the chip says that
it is a 2700... but in Windows XP... It says im only running a 2100+ ..

WHAT THE HECK???? Is it the wrong chip? Or is Windows? What do i do? (This
BTW is the SECOND chip cuz the first 2700+ chip I bought did the same
thing!)
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The 2700+ deffault settings are 13x166MHz. Sounds like you have yours set
to 13x133MHz, which is the speed of a 2100+. That's why it's reported as a
2100+. Your board (A7S333) doesn't officially support a 166MHz FSB, but I
think it will run it, assuming the rest of your components are up to the
task. If not, then you should leave the FSB at 133 and change the
multiplier to 16.5. That should give you 2700+ speeds (2200MHz). if you
can't get it stable, raise vcore a little until it is.
 
You gotta love these people who purchase processors without first
establishing whether their board can handle it. That board cannot take a
2700+. As Tod said, you may attempt to return it, but - usually - a company
will only take a CPU back if it's their error - not the customer's; and the
fault is clearly yours, because you failed to check whether your board was
capable of running the chip.

Best you can do is eBay, IMNSHO.
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The cpu will run in his board, The only requirement is that the board
support a FSB of at least 50MHz. Now I'm not sure if the 745 chipset will
do 166MHz FSB, but that doesn't matter. He can still run it at 133 MHz and
get the speed up simply by changing the multiplier to 13 to 16 or 16.5.
 
High end processor support for the A7S333

Athlon XP 2000+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2000+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2100+(Model 6)(Palomino) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2200+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1002
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004
Athlon XP 2400+(Model 10)(Thorton) 1.03 1005
Athlon XP 2600+(266FSB)(Model 8)(Thoroughbred) ALL 1004
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All well and good, but has little meaning as to what cpu you can actually
run in the board. And it will run any of them, up to the 3200+. Just have
to know how to do it.
 
The cpu will run in his board, The only requirement is that the board
support a FSB of at least 50MHz. Now I'm not sure if the 745 chipset will
do 166MHz FSB, but that doesn't matter. He can still run it at 133 MHz and
get the speed up simply by changing the multiplier to 13 to 16 or 16.5.
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heh
are you even sure the SiS745 will do 50 ;)
 
I bought a new AMD Athlon XP 2700+... and the sticker on the chip says that
it is a 2700... but in Windows XP... It says im only running a 2100+ ..

WHAT THE HECK???? Is it the wrong chip? Or is Windows? What do i do? (This
BTW is the SECOND chip cuz the first 2700+ chip I bought did the same
thing!)
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Yes well Work this out for a con,
Was running Ga-VAXP Mobo Standard With xp 2700+ and cpu speed was
2250 mhz the same as a Barton 3200
The same speed with a GA-VAXP Ultra with the A northbridge
Just recently Stuffed the CPU into a N-Force 2 Mobo GA-7N400 Pro 2 and
the CPU Dropped to 2167 Mhz
Tryed the multiplyers to get the speed back up but No Can do!!
Very nice Mobo Though but it just goes to show that there is a little
bit of hanky-panky going on to get you to upgrade your CPU.
My opinion is unless you go the whole hog and fork out for a Barton
3200, The XP 2700+ is the best chip out there if you marry it up to
the correct MObo
 
If you're using (which I'm sure you are) one of the chips that are labelled
according to AMD's lovely new speed system, then there is some slight
deception versus what normal chips (like Intels) are labelled as.

AMD is labelling their new XP chips as a comparative speed rating to their
competition (namely Intel).

So, a chip that's labelled XP 2700+ means that it performs LIKE an Intel P4
2.7GHz chip (ideally), but in REALITY, it's actual clock speed is only
2.1GHz.

In addition, if you're further curious if themotherboard you have is, in
fact, able to handle the XP 2700+, then I suggest you find the brand and
model number of the motherboard and do the appropriate research at the
motherboard manufacturer's website.

For some further helpful information (FAQ) on the XP line of Athlon chips,
you can look at their downloadable document (www.amd.com, PDF file
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/FAQ_Rev05_ENG.pdf).

Jayson M. Sperling
TLUW Networks
Network Administrator
 
If you're using (which I'm sure you are) one of the chips that are labelled
according to AMD's lovely new speed system, then there is some slight
deception versus what normal chips (like Intels) are labelled as.
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What new system? They've been using a Preformance Rating for over 2 years
now.
AMD is labelling their new XP chips as a comparative speed rating to their
competition (namely Intel).
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And what's wrong with that? How would you rate the Athlon64 3200+. I think
it runs at 2GHz, but runs as fast, and faster in many cases, as a 3200MHz
P4.
So, a chip that's labelled XP 2700+ means that it performs LIKE an Intel P4
2.7GHz chip (ideally), but in REALITY, it's actual clock speed is only
2.1GHz.
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And in REALITY, clock speed doesn't mean squat when comparing 2 totally
different architechtures of cpu's. It's only relevent when the cpu's are
the same.
In addition, if you're further curious if themotherboard you have is, in
fact, able to handle the XP 2700+, then I suggest you find the brand and
model number of the motherboard and do the appropriate research at the
motherboard manufacturer's website.
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This is worthless. See sig line. Look up it's supposed capabilties on the
Abit website.:-)
For some further helpful information (FAQ) on the XP line of Athlon chips,
you can look at their downloadable document (www.amd.com, PDF file
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/DownloadableAssets/FAQ_Rev05_ENG.pdf).
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Read a small section of this. It's not very accurate in the portion I
read.
Jayson M. Sperling
TLUW Networks
Network Administrator
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That explains it.:-)
 
Wes Newell said:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 09:12:42 -0600, Jayson M. Sperling wrote:
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Jayson M. Sperling
TLUW Networks
Network Administrator
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That explains it.:-)

Agreed.
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