Hello Windows 7, so long Vista...

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Bob said:
Which is not easier than just clicking your IE Quick Launch icon, which
is now gone. Besides, you could *always* do this - right click and
choose open.

In Win 7, there is really no point in having Quick Launch icons on the
taskbar (now called "pin to taskbar"), since they disappear as soon as
you launch it.


This is just like the OS X dock, where everything is lumped together in
a hodge podge of functionality. I want separate Quick Launch icons and
separate open/minimized window icons. These are 2 different things.

The size of the icons is not what makes it look like the OS X dock. It
is the fact that a single icon changes from app launcher to "return to
open app" once launched, and it is now harder to launch multiple
instances of an app. In OS X you have to resort to the command line to
open a 2nd app instance!


Not in mine. It is a step backwards. The Quick Launch Toolbar needs
to return. It still shows in the help screens, but is not in the
toolbar menu.
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Again, that's your personal opinion. However, it's probably a good idea
to allow users to configure the task bar just like in Windows Vista and
Windows XP. Nevertheless, I've spent many years using GNOME, KDE and Mac
OS X and I must concede that Windows 7 task bar is one of the nicest
I've ever seen.
 
Bob Campbell said:
This makes no sense. Where is this location? Where is "Toolbars"?
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The tip that FBonWin provided will do what you want. Here are the steps:

1. Right click on the taskbar go in to properties and change the checkbox
to show small icons.
2. Right click on the taskbar and click to Unlock the taskbar
3. Right click on the taskbar and choose Toolbars then New Toolbar then
navigate to the folder Users\Your_Name\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Internet
Explorer and click the select folder option.
4. Internet Explorer will be shown on your taskbar, expand it to the left
5. Expand the taskbar to two lines
6. Click on the Quick Launch folder to open a window with program
shortcuts. Drag the shortcuts you want to the Internet Explorer toolbar
7. Right click on the Internet Explorer label and uncheck show title and
show text
8. Viola - quick launch icons with no text, just icons.
 
FBonWin7b1x64 said:
hehehe...easy isn't it? Then just drag and drop any icons you want!
THX for the detailed explain.
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Thank you for the fantastic tip. It should provide Bob and others with the
functionality they are looking for and I would have never knew it could even
be done without your initial tip and some playing around to emulate what you
were describing.
 
Windows 7

I just checked a few different start menu icons/desktop icons and it seems
that the options are different depending on the icon. Some you are not
allowed to pin anywhere.

Some you can pin to the start menu OR the taskbar - or both.
 
Try holding down the 'shift' key and left clicking the IE icon with you
mouse; another IE window should now open.

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Bob said:
That's fine, just don't *remove* functionality in the process. They
have removed the Quick Launch toolbar. I want it back. Allow me to
configure it the way *I* want.
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You know that companies, like Microsoft and Apple, do not always do the
things the way you want, right? There are other solutions, but I don't
think it's fair mentioning them here.
 
Bob said:
That's fine, just don't *remove* functionality in the process. They
have removed the Quick Launch toolbar. I want it back. Allow me to
configure it the way *I* want.
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You know that companies, like Microsoft and Apple, do not always do the
things the way you want, right? There are other solutions, but I don't
think it's fair mentioning them here.
 
Felipe Alfaro Solana said:
You know that companies, like Microsoft and Apple, do not always do the
things the way you want, right? There are other solutions, but I don't
think it's fair mentioning them here.
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Does mentioning Linux here frighten you?
 
Thats so funny to me that everyone loves Windows 7 and hates Vista even
though under the hood they are the same identical kernel. The
difference is the WIndows 7 is Vista light and has a lot of applications
moved to the internet to use less memory.
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1) Vista and Windows 7 do NOT have the same kernel.
2) Windows 7 is NOT "Vista Light". It is built on the Windows 2008
Server kernel, not Vista's kernel.
3) I have not noticed ANY applications included with Win7 which have
been moved to the Internet.

But, it's actually irrelevant that an app is moved to the Internet or
not: Don't you realize that whether an app is moved to the Internet or
not, it will still have similar memory requirements when run on YOUR
computer? Where in God's Name did you get such a silly idea?

The purpose of moving apps to the Net is NOT to save on memory. The
purpose is to make them more available to more folks at a lower cost
of operation.

So, how do you feel now?
While Windows 7 LOOKS like Vista, it definitely is NOT "VISTA
warmed-over".

Even the Beta is faster than Vista with SP2 installed.
Microsoft definitely has a winner in Windows 7.

Please folks, DON'T make the SAME MISTAKE you made with Vista, and
start believing the FUD circulating about on the Web around a
Microsoft product. Especially DON'T keep circulating the FUD like you
did with Vista (a great OS), and KILL THE PRODUCT like you did with
Vista.
 
Is that what you noticed during your extensive testing or are you part of
the dev team?
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He's an idiot, Charles. Just try to put his childish post out of your
mind.
 
So, what you're telling us is that after two years they finally got it
right.
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Microsoft did get it right this time around. But don't be deceived.
Its still a beta product. I've noticed tearing with Video for one
thing. Otherwise, its a great product, and I expect great things with
Windows 7.

Please remember, that while Win7 LOOKS like Vista, it is in no way a
warmed-over Vista. Different kernel, better networking, faster file
copy.

Please folks, don't compare Windows 7 with Vista. YOu will kill it
just like you killed Vista by comparing it with XP.

Vista was good product, but the public killed it when they circulated
the FUD about it all over the Net. HOpefully, users won't make the
same mistake. But Ive already seen the FUD starting in various blogs.

Microsoft slurs are still circulating, and have become attached with
Windows 7 now. I also see the FUD starting here in this newsgroup,
calling Windows 7 a warmed over Vista, claiming it is built on the
same kernel as Vista, when it's not.

Windows 7 is its own OS, built on the Windows 2008 Server kernel and
core, and has nothing to do with Vista except the GUI, and even the
GUI has been reworked.
 
Ah - that explains a lot.
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I also like Vista. Because I was able to see beyond the FUD, unlike
(apparently) you and many others.

I also like Windows 7. So, what does that explain? That I like good
workmanship? Probably. That I like and respect Microsoft? Surely.
 
It is Vista minus.
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It's your choice to see it that way. Hopefully, the majority will not
see it your way, but will look beyond the FUD to the actual product,
unlike they did with Vista.
 
Donald said:
Please folks, DON'T make the SAME MISTAKE you made with Vista, and
start believing the FUD circulating about on the Web around a
Microsoft product. Especially DON'T keep circulating the FUD like you
did with Vista (a great OS), and KILL THE PRODUCT like you did with
Vista.
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Care for some cheese with your whine? Vista is the Window Me of NT.

Alias
 
Does mentioning Linux here frighten you?
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Scares the Hell out of me! It's a major thread diversion.

I specifically remember reading a statement from the Windows 7 product
manager (can't recall the name) that MS was aware that people were
upset about Vista's loss of functionality vs. XP and it's inability to
be easily customized back. Looks like, as usual, it was just lip
service and, as always, "MS knows best".

They probably came up with (yet another) "focus group" of the (yet
again) wrong people whom they (yet again) asked questions that
presupposed the answers they wanted to hear - and then patted
themselves on the back for being so customer oriented.
 
I also like Vista. Because I was able to see beyond the FUD, unlike
(apparently) you and many others.

I also like Windows 7. So, what does that explain? That I like good
workmanship? Probably. That I like and respect Microsoft? Surely.
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Specifically, it explains van chocstraw's posts to several Linux groups.
You'd have to read them to understand.

BTW - if you "like good workmanship" how can you possibly enjoy vista?
 
Alias said:
Care for some cheese with your whine? Vista is the Window Me of NT.

Alias
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With Windows 7, they listened, they learned and so let the Vista bashing
go already! There was some great work in Vista but there was also some
flaws as well. I can see a lot of that great Vista work living on in
Windows 7 and the flaws no longer present.
 
Bob said:
Ah, THANK YOU.

Still, a very convoluted process to restore what used to be automatic
behavior. Why not just have the Quick Launch option already in the
Toolbar menu, like it used to be?

My problem before was I didn't know about Step 7. But at least this
restores the taskbar to a useable state.

Again, THANK YOU!!!
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You're very welcome Bob. I still prefer the new taskbar as is, I'm
embracing the change, but happy to see there is a work around for folks
that prefer the former way.
 
+Bob+ said:
Scares the Hell out of me! It's a major thread diversion.

I specifically remember reading a statement from the Windows 7 product
manager (can't recall the name) that MS was aware that people were
upset about Vista's loss of functionality vs. XP and it's inability to
be easily customized back. Looks like, as usual, it was just lip
service and, as always, "MS knows best".

They probably came up with (yet another) "focus group" of the (yet
again) wrong people whom they (yet again) asked questions that
presupposed the answers they wanted to hear - and then patted
themselves on the back for being so customer oriented.
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I think sometimes people fear change. Sometimes people are unwilling to
try a new and different way even though in the long run the new way
might be a better way. A good example would be the ribbon bar in Word
2007. One could also relate this to aspects of Vista or even Windows 7.
;-)
 
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