HDTV as computer monitor: feasiblity?

[Wblane]

What about in games though? Can Powerstrip set resolutions in games? What do
you mean by HD? Hydravision? How much a 25" HDTV goes for these days? Do HDTV's
support standard TV aspect ratios or is it all widescreen?

I'm still sitting on the fence. I've seen 24" CRT's for a little over a grand,
but I haven't priced any HDTV's.

The ATI boards can output HDTV resolutions using component or DVI outputs,
but you may need a third party utility called "Powerstrip" to set them.

Using DVI the refresh rate set in the video board is pretty much irrelevant
as the signal goes through a DAC in the set.

Further, TV sets tend to have higher persistence phosphors than CRT
monitors.

The bottom line is that I've not noticed any flicker using a TV for computer
output--the resolution has always been the issue and HD resolves that.

-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

 

[J. Clarke]

What about in games though? Can Powerstrip set resolutions in games?

Games either use the Windows settings or set their own from among a small
range. They're a problem if you're using an HDTV for output.

What
do you mean by HD?

High definition. Digital television transmission at resolutions higher that
analog broadcast. Nearly all US broadcast stations are transmitting HD in
addition to their analog signal, and analog is supposed to be phased out in
a few years.

Hydravision? How much a 25" HDTV goes for these days?
Do HDTV's support standard TV aspect ratios or is it all widescreen?

HDTVs can do anything an analog TV can do. Some can scale to widescreen so
that letterboxed SD uses the whole screen or do other tricks.

I'm still sitting on the fence. I've seen 24" CRT's for a little over a
grand, but I haven't priced any HDTV's.

The trouble with HDTVs is finding one with all the specs provided. You can
get into one for around the same price that will have a bigger screen but a
smaller range of resolutions. Unfortunately in that price range they're
typically limited to about 720 lines horizontal resolution--that's 720P,
which is actually quite good but not as good as a purpose-made monitor.

 

[maggot]

The specs for your magic box say that the maximum output resolution is
1280x1024.

And what does that have to do with the text output from the computer
to the computer monitor, you dumb ****?

 

[maggot]

Care to provide me some numbers to support that contention?

Um, remember the power outages of last summer?

It doesn't? Now let's see, I feed it 1600x1200 and out comes 1280x1024, and
that's not degredation? Not to mention that it won't pass DVI.

You are a seriously confused dork.

 

[J. Clarke]

Um, remember the power outages of last summer?

No, I don't remember any power outages last summer. But even if there were,
that doesn't demonstrate that my leaving the computer running is the reason
for them--after all, computers are usually shut down at night when the
demand is lowest.

You are a seriously confused dork.

Again with the pitiful attempts at insults. If I am in error please
demonstrate its nature.

 

[J. Clarke]

And what does that have to do with the text output from the computer
to the computer monitor, you dumb ****?

If the text output goes through your wondrous little box then it is subject
to the limitations of that box. If it doesn't go through your little box
then you have to plug cables every time you want to use the computer or the
TV.

 

[maggot]

If the text output goes through your wondrous little box then it is subject
to the limitations of that box. If it doesn't go through your little box
then you have to plug cables every time you want to use the computer or the
TV.

It's passthrough remember?! The text output doesn't go throught the
wittle box. Get it now?

 

[maggot]

No, I don't remember any power outages last summer.

The whole ****ing eastern seaboard from New York to Ontario, Canada
was blacked out. You don't remember that?!

Again with the pitiful attempts at insults. If I am in error please
demonstrate its nature.

How are you going to feed it 1600x1200? There is no TV signal that is
anywhere close to that. DVD is not even close to that. X-Box doesn't
do 1600x1200 so just where are you getting this 1600x1200 feed from?

 

[Wblane]

The 720 lines of horizontal resolution would preclude using 1024x768? That
would be the minimum resolution I'd want my desktop at.

he trouble with HDTVs is finding one with all the specs provided. You can
get into one for around the same price that will have a bigger screen but a
smaller range of resolutions. Unfortunately in that price range they're
typically limited to about 720 lines horizontal resolution--that's 720P,
which is actually quite good but not as good as a purpose-made monitor.

That's all I need to hear. HDTV as a monitor is now definitely out. I remember
the nightmare of trying to get a fixed frequency 20" NCD monitor to work three
years ago -- I'm NOT going thru that again.

Games either use the Windows settings or set their own from among a small
range. They're a problem if you're using an HDTV for output.

-Bill (remove "botizer" to reply via email)

 

[J. Clarke]

The whole ****ing eastern seaboard from New York to Ontario, Canada
was blacked out. You don't remember that?!

No. And "the whole ****ing eastern seaboard from New York to Ontario, Canada
consists of one state, New York, but don't let facts stand in the way of
your hyperbole. But having looked it up, I see that it had nothing to do
with an "energy shortage" and everything to do with poor maintenance of the
infrastructure.

How are you going to feed it 1600x1200? There is no TV signal that is
anywhere close to that. DVD is not even close to that. X-Box doesn't
do 1600x1200 so just where are you getting this 1600x1200 feed from?

My PC. Which can go much higher than that.

 

[J. Clarke]

It's passthrough remember?! The text output doesn't go throught the
wittle box. Get it now?

I see. So if it doesn't go through the little box how does it get from the
computer to the screen?

 

[maggot]

I see. So if it doesn't go through the little box how does it get from the
computer to the screen?

Passthrough.

 

[maggot]

No. And "the whole ****ing eastern seaboard from New York to Ontario, Canada
consists of one state, New York, but don't let facts stand in the way of
your hyperbole. But having looked it up, I see that it had nothing to do
with an "energy shortage" and everything to do with poor maintenance of the
infrastructure.

Overloading of the infrastucture is a common problem in the east due
to selfish gits like yourself.

My PC. Which can go much higher than that.

For the last time. You don't feed your computer signal to the N6. The
N6 is for feeding video signals to your computer monitor, nothing
else. The various resolutions available are for "upscaling" the
resolution of the feed. Anyone who knows about Dscaler should also
know that people in the know use external TV tuners due to RF
interference in the PC case causing image and sound quality issues.
Take a hike.

 

[J. Clarke]

Overloading of the infrastucture is a common problem in the east due
to selfish gits like yourself.

Source please? And the blackout you mentioned had nothing to do with
"overloading the infrastructure". When a cable falls down because nobody
bothered to check the supports or a tree falls on it because nobody
bothered to check for dead trees near the line or a computer in the control
center fails because nobody bothered to blow the dust out of it that has
nothing to do with "overloading the infrastructure" and it a group of
problems of that sort hitting simultaneously that caused the blackout in
question.

For the last time. You don't feed your computer signal to the N6. The
N6 is for feeding video signals to your computer monitor, nothing
else. The various resolutions available are for "upscaling" the
resolution of the feed.

I see. So you do, according to what you just said, have to unplug the cable
from the N6 to your monitor and plug in the cable from your computer to
your monitor in order to use the monitor with your computer and then unplug
the cable from the computer to the monitor and plug in the cable from the
N6 to the monitor in order to use the monitor with the N6? There is no
other possible interpretation to your statement that I can see.

Anyone who knows about Dscaler should also
know that people in the know use external TV tuners due to RF
interference in the PC case causing image and sound quality issues.
Take a hike.

Which "people in the know" and what "external TV tuners" are available that
feed HD into a computer and what are these "image and sound quality issues"
and where is your source for this information? And if you don't want to
continue this discussion then just stop discussing.

 

[J. Clarke]

Passthrough.

In other words there is no way to simultaneously display TV and computer
output on the monitor using the N6 because the computer output is simply
passed through the box on copper wires with no active components at all
between input and output?

 

[GMAN]

Source please? And the blackout you mentioned had nothing to do with
"overloading the infrastructure". When a cable falls down because nobody
bothered to check the supports or a tree falls on it because nobody
bothered to check for dead trees near the line or a computer in the control
center fails because nobody bothered to blow the dust out of it that has
nothing to do with "overloading the infrastructure" and it a group of
problems of that sort hitting simultaneously that caused the blackout in
question.


I see. So you do, according to what you just said, have to unplug the cable
from the N6 to your monitor and plug in the cable from your computer to
your monitor in order to use the monitor with your computer and then unplug
the cable from the computer to the monitor and plug in the cable from the
N6 to the monitor in order to use the monitor with the N6? There is no
other possible interpretation to your statement that I can see.

Are you a retard J clarke?

 

[maggot]

In other words there is no way to simultaneously display TV and computer
output on the monitor using the N6 because the computer output is simply
passed through the box on copper wires with no active components at all
between input and output?

You can display the TV while the computer is on using PIP.

 

[J. Clarke]

You can display the TV while the computer is on using PIP.

I see. And how does that get displayed with a "pass through" without any
processing by the N6?

 

[J. Clarke]

Are you a retard J clarke?

<plonk>

 

[maggot]

I see. And how does that get displayed with a "pass through" without any
processing by the N6?

By superimposing the PIP image on top of the computer screen image.
Move along, you lose.