Grrrr Cheap ass AMD clip.

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I guess everyones missing the whole point. If the AMD specs had called out
for a 3 hole clip (the way even the cheapest of other K8 HS are made)
instead of a single clip, all this could have been avoided. They designed
the retainer bracket with 3 nubs on each end and the HS with only 1. yes,
I blame AMD for a piss poor design of the cooler clip. If you want to
disagree with that, that's your right.:-)
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Well Intel pissed me off 9 years ago, I haven't built one since.
Hint Hint :)
Ed
 
What's the board got to do with anything. The board is running fine, even
with the broken nub the AMD HS caused. I'm now using a different cooler.

I reserve the right to badmouth anyone if the product is not designed
good. Now, do you think all coolers should be a single clip or 3? That's
the point and if you don't lie, you'll agree it should be 3. This is
beginning to sound like the Tivo ng where everyone there thinks Tivo can
do no wrong. AMD's coolers for the K7's were lousy, and the one for the K8
works a lot better, except for the mounting. With the added weight of the
retail K8 cooler, it should not have been design with a single clip. If
you don't agree with that you are just lieing to yourself.


I served my 4 years.
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There always room for AMD to improve sure, I'll take the 3 over 1, it
can't hurt except maybe drive the boxed prices up a hair for practically
no good reason except to make you happy (joking!), forget what you think
AMD shoulda/coulda done, Opteron's use only one clip, they didn't get
released yesterday, AMD would have heard of a problem and fixed it long
before now if there was something wrong with the clips.

Hammer was a do or die ticket for AMD, if they really needed to use 3
clips they would have put them there. I just don't think AMD is that
stupid to risk it all over a measly HS/fan clip.

All I can add to all of this, is inspect your parts a little more
carefully before slapping it all together and good luck!

Ed
 
Nothing wrong with dissent. Old 60's anthem, "Fight the power".

But at least place the blame where it should be.

This general broadcast rant reminds me of something...for example.

Blaming a drive thru fast food place for putting coffee in a plastic cup!
But instead of using a cup holder or carrier the customer decides to place
in some place safe...like in their lap or between her legs for a drive home.
Seems like a good idea, until you think it over...what could possibly be
wrong with that picture? Maybe...just guessing here, but maybe,
.....structurally the cup is great for holding liquid, but crappy when you
put pressure on the sides, but some people just don't think that far ahead.

Silly...that already happened. I think they won the case too. Only draw
back, ...now that example of forethought is ingrained as the dumbest
complaint ever, until the next one comes along. Might be worth it to get a
lawyer and teach AMD a costly lesson.

I'm not familiar with the board you are complaining about about...does it by
any chance have board mount holes for a spring held HSF?

I did my full 6 years, I curb my dog, take my trash back out of the
National forest, recycle whenever possible, wear my seat belts (most of the
time), pay my taxes (sometimes too much, just to be safe) and never drive
drunk.
 
OldFartJC said:
I'd say it was a cheap ass board.
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For sure.

If the clip had 3 holes then the cheap board's socket wouldn't have broken.
Therefor, it was a cheap ass clip. It was on the AMD heatsink, therefor the
whole AMD heatsink is tainted towards cheap ass. But for sure the clip was.
And the motherboard was tainted by the socket. Such cheap ass stuff.

Brace yourself, now -- here it comes ... the all-knowing corporation that
hath granted us processors should not be criticized ... we must lovingly
accept all impurities ...


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Never had a problem with any of the single tab clips. Intel or AMD. It does
make you wonder though, why not use all 3 tabs.
 
OldFartJC said:
Never had a problem with any of the single tab clips. Intel or AMD. It
does make you wonder though, why not use all 3 tabs.
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The single tab is like living on borrowed time!


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Wes Newell said:
I blame AMD for specing a cooler with only one clip on each end when even
the cheapest made has 3. Now who else should I blame. The wheel on my car
has 4 lugs. Should I only use 2 of them because it will work?:-)
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Ever had a Renault? Some of those had only one per wheel.

Dave
 
Wes Newell said:
Waws cleaning inside the case tonight and the AMD cooler which only
latches on one nub on each end almost fell off in my hand. The middle nub
of the HS retainer broke. Now the HS retainer has 3 nubs but AMD cooler
only used one to hold the HS in place. Just pisses me off. Luckily I had a
spare $6 TR2-M6 in the closet. And as cgeap as it is, it uses a 3 nub clip
on each end. Now down to 2 on one end. :-) Afterwards, looking at the
piece that broke showed that the center nub is the weakest of the 3 with
less mass connecting it to the hs retainer. Good design AMD.:-(

So watch out for falling heatsinks.
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For god's sake, I keep telling ya, use a brush, not a bloody hammer and
chisel. No wonder it fell off. ;-)

Dave
 
Ever had a Renault? Some of those had only one per wheel.
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Actually we did have a Renault in the early 60's. Fun little car, but I
don't remember nuch about the wheels, except maybe that one pair of them
folded up under the car when raised. At least I think that was the Renault.
 
Wes Newell said:
Actually we did have a Renault in the early 60's. Fun little car, but I
don't remember nuch about the wheels, except maybe that one pair of them
folded up under the car when raised. At least I think that was the
Renault.
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Some Citroens also had only one bolt holding each wheel on - 2CV, I think -
one centre bolt and a lug on the outside edge of the brake drum that keyed
into the wheel centre. On some Citroen models from late 60s/early 70s , you
could retract one of the rear wheels and drive on three wheels at a reduced
speed. I kind of recall the advertising of the car maker of the time but it
did not have much of an impact until Citroen got one of the cars on CHiPS
(TV cop series - aaaggghhh, that dates me) and the driver got pulled over by
the bike cops for driving on three wheels down a California freeway because
he had a flat on one of the rear tyres.

Dave
 
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