Graphics won't show on website

[Jan Il]

Jan,

As with Kathy, other than the font issue, it all looks ok from here.

Congrats!

(And a nice, sunny page it is on a somewhat dreary monday)

Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy the sunshine

 

[Jan Il]

Glad to help. So's he... especially if it means he doesn't have to spend
the

time on real stuff like figuring out why PowerPointAnswers suddenly went
missing this morning. (It's fixed now.)

That's good news! Don't want to be without my other rudder! ;-)

I have a very weird attitude towards learning the web. I draft my pages
(formerly on paper, now in OneNote), then build a series of nested HTML
tables to make sure that everything translates to the right places on the
screen. I started out using very basic HTML, and grew as I needed to. I now
use a bizarre combination of FrontPage and hand coding to build the pages.

So, how does one go about learning HTML? By looking at what others do,
borrowing and adapting code and by reading on-line tutorials. We are doing a
severe case of thread drift here, but if you want to learn HTML, check out
these web resources:
- WebMonkey: http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/teachingtool/html.html
- HTML Goodies: http://www.htmlgoodies.com/primers/basics.html
There also used to be a tool on the web that let you see what the HTML
commands looked like when you used them. Unfortunately, I can't remember how
to find that site anymore.

Ahmm....we do thread drits here? W'll.....when did this happen? Who
started that? <sigh>...I see I have been away too long!.... ;-)

But.....thank you very much for the URL's, I'll check them out. I'm sure
that once I get the hang of how it works it will all fit together fine.
It's just that these types of thingies takes a while for me to grasp at
times. Thus, the learning curve tends to run in a circle. Not one of those
types that I can just grab and start running, as I keep running into me
coming back. After a while, I just run the other direction when I see me
coming. ??

Jan

 

[Jan Il]

Hey, yourself!


That's the big one to get past.


Fonts in HTML aren't so much fonts as suggestions, nudges in the direction you
want the browser to go. The browser will try to accommodate you if it can find
the font you want in the garbage dump....er... Fonts folder on the user's
system, but otherwise, it'll substitute.

Sound PPT-familiar? You bet.

If you have to use a special font (ie in a logo or the like) the best bet is to
convert the text to curves in Draw or similar OR to convert the graphic that
uses the text to a bitmap.

'k!! I *think* I may have it fixed now, but, although it looks ok on my
end,
I can't tell about the other types of browsers. I tried to add some
hyperlinks for a few sites that I thought might be interesting, and for some
of my images and PPT and Corel projects, but.....ahmm....I need some more
Malto-Meal for those yet.....<sigh>

Anyway...here's the updated link to my site again, and I would truly
appreciate it if you and whomever else would like, would check it and let me
know if it is working ok or not. It should show the sorta fancy text this
time for my Welcome and Images texts. I redid the text boxs and then took
them into PPT and it did let me do the Paste Special this time. I used the
..jpg format to see if it would work ok, but if not, then I'll try it as a
bitmap.

http://members.cox.net/janilac/index.html

Thank you!

Jan

 

[Michael Koerner]

Jan, looks just fine. FYI .jpg is a bitmap.

I still recommend that you look into programs other than Word and/or PowerPoint
for creating your web pages. For the most part, I use a utility out there called
Note Tab. They have a lite version which is free and quite powerful. If your
interested, just visit here http://www.notetab.com/?NoteTab Light=4950

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Michael Koerner [MS PPT MVP]

Hey, yourself!


That's the big one to get past.


Fonts in HTML aren't so much fonts as suggestions, nudges in the direction you
want the browser to go. The browser will try to accommodate you if it can find
the font you want in the garbage dump....er... Fonts folder on the user's
system, but otherwise, it'll substitute.

Sound PPT-familiar? You bet.

If you have to use a special font (ie in a logo or the like) the best bet is to
convert the text to curves in Draw or similar OR to convert the graphic that
uses the text to a bitmap.

'k!! I *think* I may have it fixed now, but, although it looks ok on my
end,
I can't tell about the other types of browsers. I tried to add some
hyperlinks for a few sites that I thought might be interesting, and for some
of my images and PPT and Corel projects, but.....ahmm....I need some more
Malto-Meal for those yet.....<sigh>

Anyway...here's the updated link to my site again, and I would truly
appreciate it if you and whomever else would like, would check it and let me
know if it is working ok or not. It should show the sorta fancy text this
time for my Welcome and Images texts. I redid the text boxs and then took
them into PPT and it did let me do the Paste Special this time. I used the
..jpg format to see if it would work ok, but if not, then I'll try it as a
bitmap.

http://members.cox.net/janilac/index.html

Thank you!

Jan

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Sheesh! This is harder than when I first started learning PPT! ;-))

Yup. PPT does an amazing job of making HTML that looks and acts like the
original PPT, especially considering that HTML was never really meant to go
there.

On the other hand, what you're doing on your page isn't all that complex. I'd
be inclined to go with Kathy's suggestion, learn a bit of HTML and try
handcoding the page in a really sophisticated tool. Like Notepad. ;-)

'k....but, here is what is also somewhat confusing. Some people say you
should not use a bitmap in the webpage, that the viewing quality is not
always very good, so you should only the jpg.

JPG is just one variety of bitmap. And where text and the like are concerned,
JPG can look pretty nasty. I'd be inclined to store advice from those people
in the same place as the peels from yesterday's banana, the fish-heads and
stuff.

Another says you should use
only the gif. So, it makes it hard to tell which is the best format for the
best viewing clarity for most browsers.

At a given size on screen, they're going to look pretty much the same in most
browsers; try both, decide which works best for your particular image. Easy.

things from my own perspective. It's not going on the open internet, it is
just a personal site for me to post some things to share, but, I may also
want to post some things for here or the Corel ng's for references, and this
will mean several different types of browsers and systems may be used.

See above. Worry about stuff that needs worryin'. ;-)

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Anyway...here's the updated link to my site again, and I would truly

appreciate it if you and whomever else would like, would check it and let me
know if it is working ok or not. It should show the sorta fancy text this
time for my Welcome and Images texts. I redid the text boxs and then took
them into PPT and it did let me do the Paste Special this time. I used the
..jpg format to see if it would work ok, but if not, then I'll try it as a
bitmap.

Like a lot of people, I use "Bitmap" generically to mean "picture made up of
pixels/dots" rather than specifically to mean "Windows BMP (BitMaP) file". And
you don't want to use a BMP in the actual HTML 'cause it's not supported.
Stick with JPG or GIF for widest compatibility; PNGs pretty widely supported
now but might make really old browsers cough a hairball or two.

http://members.cox.net/janilac/index.html

Looks fine from here; the only suggestion I have is that you try using a bit
higher resolution image to make the type look a bit better.

See whether that causes download time to get too long.

 

[Jan Il]

Yup. PPT does an amazing job of making HTML that looks and acts like the
original PPT, especially considering that HTML was never really meant to go
there.

W'll...now that I know that..it will make things a bit easier, I'll just
keep PPT in mind when I'm working on the site stuffs. ;-))

On the other hand, what you're doing on your page isn't all that complex. I'd
be inclined to go with Kathy's suggestion, learn a bit of HTML and try
handcoding the page in a really sophisticated tool. Like Notepad. ;-)

JPG is just one variety of bitmap. And where text and the like are concerned,
JPG can look pretty nasty. I'd be inclined to store advice from those people
in the same place as the peels from yesterday's banana, the fish-heads and
stuff.

I have noticed that sometimes the .jpg looks a bit narly in some cases.
I've seen times that they look blurry, or grainy, especially texts. I'll
try it with a .bmp too and see how it does.

Yeah...ya can't please everybody. Some have some rather farout browettes
and/or have odd settings for them browser viewing. I have not had a lot of
luck with .gif's for some things either.

At a given size on screen, they're going to look pretty much the same in most
browsers; try both, decide which works best for your particular image.

Easy.

I have noticed in the WebMonkey HTML tutorila that Kathy gave me that it
gives the varius text sizes and how they look on the web. That will help a
lot so you know what it will look like, ......when I get to the HTML writing
part anyway.

See above. Worry about stuff that needs worryin'. ;-)

'k...will do. ;-))

Jan

 

[Jan Il]

Jan, looks just fine. FYI .jpg is a bitmap.

Thanks, Michael! 'k....jpg is .bmp, got it! ;-)

Jan

I still recommend that you look into programs other than Word and/or PowerPoint
for creating your web pages. For the most part, I use a utility out there called
Note Tab. They have a lite version which is free and quite powerful. If your
interested, just visit here http://www.notetab.com/?NoteTab Light=4950

I have the Note Tab and will give it a try. It looks very easy to use.
Whew!! <g>

Jan

 

[Jan Il]

Anyway...here's the updated link to my site again, and I would truly

Like a lot of people, I use "Bitmap" generically to mean "picture made up of
pixels/dots" rather than specifically to mean "Windows BMP (BitMaP) file". And
you don't want to use a BMP in the actual HTML 'cause it's not supported.
Stick with JPG or GIF for widest compatibility; PNGs pretty widely supported
now but might make really old browsers cough a hairball or two.

'k.... will do.

Looks fine from here; the only suggestion I have is that you try using a bit
higher resolution image to make the type look a bit better.

See whether that causes download time to get too long.

I did notice that the text was not a sharp as it should be, but, thought
that it might be due to being made a .jpg. I did not contrast and darkened
it a bit to get more clarity, but, it does still look dimish. I'll try the
higher resolution and see how it works. But, I realize that many people in
other areas still have to use the dialup, and even have to pay for their
Internet time, so I try to keep that in mind when I create or post things.
;-)

I'll be back....

Jan

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

I have noticed that sometimes the .jpg looks a bit narly in some cases.

I've seen times that they look blurry, or grainy, especially texts. I'll
try it with a .bmp too and see how it does.

In the actual HTML, no. BMP isn't a supported format.
But going into Word, from which you'll make HTML, sure. BMP, or PNG.

I have noticed in the WebMonkey HTML tutorila

Ah, you sandy egans. Sooner or later the conversation always turns to Mexican
food. Just because you have more of it and better than us ... gotta make us
jealous.

 

[Jan Il]

I have noticed that sometimes the .jpg looks a bit narly in some cases.

In the actual HTML, no. BMP isn't a supported format.
But going into Word, from which you'll make HTML, sure. BMP, or PNG.

'k..I see now. Will do.

Ah, you sandy egans. Sooner or later the conversation always turns to Mexican
food. Just because you have more of it and better than us ... gotta make us
jealous.

W'll hey.......I was having breakfast......Hawavoes Rancho...with chilly
verdi too. Yummmm!! So...I ..eh...got a bit side tracked. It's a good
thing ya'll will be coming back to SD in Oct. Then you can fill up on the
really good stuff. ;-)

Jan

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

W'll hey.......I was having breakfast......Hawavoes Rancho...with chilly

verdi too. Yummmm!! So...I ..eh...got a bit side tracked. It's a good
thing ya'll will be coming back to SD in Oct. Then you can fill up on the
really good stuff. ;-)

True. None of that chilly verdi, at least not at breakfast.
Opera, like revenge (ak MSIE?), may best be served cold, but never before
lunch.

 

[Jan Il]

True. None of that chilly verdi, at least not at breakfast.
Opera, like revenge (ak MSIE?), may best be served cold, but never before
lunch.

Oh.....heh....here all the time I thought it was the Pepsi and rhubarb
smoothies along with that gave me indigestion. ? ?

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Oh.....heh....here all the time I thought it was the Pepsi and rhubarb

smoothies along with that gave me indigestion. ? ?

Taken in parallel or serially?

(Pepsi and cornflakes ... what a disgusting thought)