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measekite
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Burt
Walter and Alan are looking for people who have experience with aftermarket
ink products Measekite rants against all aftermarket inks and carts with
the same tired misinformation. He has never purchased from any of the
vendors, nor has he ever used aftermarket inks. His personal experience is
with one Canon ip4000 and one HP inkjet printer, all with OEM inks. He has
absolutely zero experience with Epson printers. Why he continues with his
diatribe I don't know, but I hope that actual users of these products will
continue to post messages to this newsgroup whether their experience is
positive or negative, to help others decide if they want to use non-oem inks
and which vendors and products to consider. Personal experience counts,
Biased rants help no one.
ink products Measekite rants against all aftermarket inks and carts with
the same tired misinformation. He has never purchased from any of the
vendors, nor has he ever used aftermarket inks. His personal experience is
with one Canon ip4000 and one HP inkjet printer, all with OEM inks. He has
absolutely zero experience with Epson printers. Why he continues with his
diatribe I don't know, but I hope that actual users of these products will
continue to post messages to this newsgroup whether their experience is
positive or negative, to help others decide if they want to use non-oem inks
and which vendors and products to consider. Personal experience counts,
Biased rants help no one.
A
Alan Justice
So who's Permajet? Web site?
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- Alan Justice
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- Alan Justice
Hecate said:Epson?
And there's the problem. You have a choice - you can have good inks
(Epson, Permajet as an independent for example) or you can have cheap
inks. Your choice.
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Hecate - The Real One
(e-mail address removed)
Fashion: Buying things you don't need, with money
you don't have, to impress people you don't like...
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Hecate
So who's Permajet? Web site?
www.permajet.com Independent British ink and paper makers/suppliers.
Excellent quality. They do cartridges for most Epsons. but the real
savings in terms of cost are if you splash out on a CIS system. You
don't really go to Permajet to save money unless you can afford a CIS
system. However, even their cartridges are better value than Epson.
The inks are excellent quality and are particularly useful if you
print a lot of B&W as their monochrome sets give superb results. The
papers are good too.
And no, I don't work for them in any capacity. Just a very satisfied
customer. ;-)
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Hecate - The Real One
(e-mail address removed)
Fashion: Buying things you don't need, with money
you don't have, to impress people you don't like...
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Arthur Entlich
Are you using them as cartridges that were factory filled, are you
filling them yourself or are you using a CIS (continuous inking system)
What problems are you having? Have you reported them to MediaStreet
they might be aware of one or more color problems, which can
occasionally happen.
Art
filling them yourself or are you using a CIS (continuous inking system)
What problems are you having? Have you reported them to MediaStreet
they might be aware of one or more color problems, which can
occasionally happen.
Art
A
Alan Justice
Thanks. They don't have ink or cartridges for my Epson 2200.
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Alan Justice
Arthur Entlich said:Are you using them as cartridges that were factory filled, are you
filling them yourself or are you using a CIS (continuous inking system)
What problems are you having? Have you reported them to MediaStreet
they might be aware of one or more color problems, which can
occasionally happen.
Art
I've been talking to their tech support for months. But now they've stopped
answering my queries on the tech support site. I guess they know they can't
solve my problems. (scuffing of prints by the exit rollers, clogging).
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Hecate
Thanks. They don't have ink or cartridges for my Epson 2200.
What you obviously don't know is that the Epson 2200 is the US name
and the Epson 2100 is used everywhere else. So yes, they do. Otherwise
my Epson 2100 is operating on ghost ink ;-)
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Hecate - The Real One
(e-mail address removed)
Fashion: Buying things you don't need, with money
you don't have, to impress people you don't like...
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measekite
Use Epson ink. You paid a lot for the printer and you do not want to
damage it.
damage it.
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Frank
measekite said:Use Epson ink. You paid a lot for the printer and you do not want to
damage it.
Epson is not a manufacturer of ink. They pay a 'contract ink
manufacturer", usually located in China (Epson is not a Chinese based
company) to manufacturer ink for them according to their specifications.
They then put an Epson label on the ink cartridges.
This gives Epson the legal rights to refer to the ink cartridges as
Epson OEM (original equipment of the manufacturer) labeled ink cartridges.
This does not explicitely imply that Epson actually manufactured the ink.
Is that what you're referring to when you say "use Epson ink"?
Frank
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Burt
measekite said:Use Epson ink. You paid a lot for the printer and you do not want to
damage it.
Inkystinky has no experience with Epson inks, OEM or aftermarket, and should
stick to giving advice about which he knows something.
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Arthur Entlich
Demand a refund for the unused ink and the CIS.
If they can't resolve the problem they should at least return your money
so you can buy an alternative product.
Art
If they can't resolve the problem they should at least return your money
so you can buy an alternative product.
Art
Alan said:Are you using them as cartridges that were factory filled, are you
filling them yourself or are you using a CIS (continuous inking system)
What problems are you having? Have you reported them to MediaStreet
they might be aware of one or more color problems, which can
occasionally happen.
Art
Alan Justice wrote:
themI've been using MediaStreet inks for my Epson 2200. I'm ready to throw
Epson?all away and go back to Epson inks. Or where do I learn about other 3rd
party inks that actually work, are archival, and cost a lot less than
I've been talking to their tech support for months. But now they've stopped
answering my queries on the tech support site. I guess they know they can't
solve my problems. (scuffing of prints by the exit rollers, clogging).
M
measekite
Burt said:Inkystinky has no experience with Epson inks, OEM or aftermarket, and should
stick to giving advice about which he knows something.
Look at the above statement that this shmuck wrote. I guess my printer
does not use any ink at all when I produce nice results. Boy look at
the money I save. :-D :-D :-D :-D
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measekite
Epson is the formulator of the ink. They monitor and control its mfg
and quality control. That is what I mean by Epson ink.
Now who mfg a shmuck like Frankie Crankie?
and quality control. That is what I mean by Epson ink.
Now who mfg a shmuck like Frankie Crankie?
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Burt
measekite said:Look at the above statement that this shmuck wrote. I guess my printer
does not use any ink at all when I produce nice results. Boy look at the
money I save. :-D :-D :-D :-D
Inkystinky (is you nickname Stinky or Inky? Mine, by the way is not
schmuck.) claims to have earned an MBA from Stanford. Measekite, you
should have adequate proficiency in English to know that the comma in my
posting after "Epson inks" had a modifying phrase, "OEM or aftermarket"
referring to EPSON INKS and merely states that you have no experience with
EPSON OEM or EPSON AFTERMARKET INKS. You just flunked the English
comprehension portion of the SAT exam. Back to bonehead English for you,
Stinky. Enough of your name calling, trying to find fault with all my
posts, and denying the validity of other people's experience.
M
measekite
Burt said:Inkystinky (is you nickname Stinky or Inky? Mine, by the way is not
schmuck.)
Sorry PUTZ - THAT IS WITH EARS OF COURSE
claims to have earned an MBA from Stanford. Measekite, you
should have adequate proficiency in English to know that the comma in my
posting after "Epson inks" had a modifying phrase, "OEM or aftermarket"
referring to EPSON INKS and merely states that you have no experience with
EPSON OEM or EPSON AFTERMARKET INKS. You just flunked the English
comprehension portion of the SAT exam. Back to bonehead English for you,
Stinky. Enough of your name calling, trying to find fault with all my
posts, and denying the validity of other people's experience.
IS PASTOR BURTIE FURTIE PISSED OFF?
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Burt
(snip)
NO (see - I have a caps lock key too), It is sadly amusing to see that when
someone points out an inconsistancy, error, or misinformation in your
non-contributory responses you don't have the decency or common sense to
admit it, much less apologize. You just escalate the insults.
Sorry PUTZ - THAT IS WITH EARS OF COURSE
IS PASTOR BURTIE FURTIE PISSED OFF?
NO (see - I have a caps lock key too), It is sadly amusing to see that when
someone points out an inconsistancy, error, or misinformation in your
non-contributory responses you don't have the decency or common sense to
admit it, much less apologize. You just escalate the insults.
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Frank
measekite said:Epson is the formulator of the ink. They monitor and control its mfg
and quality control. That is what I mean by Epson ink.
Not really. Epson pays a contract ink manufacturer to formulate,
manufacturer and check the quality (quality control) of their Epson
labeled inks.
Any contract ink manufacturer wiil do that for anyone who is willing to
pay the price.
How little you know of what you speak so much of.
Frank
M
measekite
Frank said:Not really. Epson pays a contract ink manufacturer to formulate,
manufacturer and check the quality (quality control) of their Epson
labeled inks.
Any contract ink manufacturer wiil do that for anyone who is willing
to pay the price.
How little you know of what you speak so much of.
Frank
CLICK THE LINK AND READ WHY FRANKIE CRANKIE SPANKIE COCKROACH IS FULL OF
SHIT.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=2&u=/pcworld/20050614/tc_pcworld/121377
:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
M
measekite
Burt said:(snip)
NO (see - I have a caps lock key too), It is sadly amusing to see that when
someone points out an inconsistancy, error, or misinformation in your
non-contributory responses you don't have the decency or common sense to
admit it, much less apologize. You just escalate the insults.
READ THIS YOUR HOLINESS
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1093&e=2&u=/pcworld/20050614/tc_pcworld/121377
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