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Hi-Please don't give me a hard time. I like NAV & have had it for years.
But everytime, for whatever reason, I've had to re-install it it's been a
nightmare! It does not matter what I do it never installs properly. My PC
is a mess right now & am getting ready to upgrade with my XP Pro disc. Have
removed all remnants of Symantec I could find.
Can someone PLEASE tell me of a good anti-virus program I can download
for around $50.00? Am going to need some protection right away & there are
so many on the market I don't know who to trust. Thanks alot.
 
Install Avast! antivirus program (FREE)
http://www.avast.com/eng/down_home.html

Antivirus software: Frequently asked questions
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/antivirus.mspx

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| Hi-Please don't give me a hard time. I like NAV & have had it for years.
| But everytime, for whatever reason, I've had to re-install it it's been a
| nightmare! It does not matter what I do it never installs properly. My PC
| is a mess right now & am getting ready to upgrade with my XP Pro disc. Have
| removed all remnants of Symantec I could find.
| Can someone PLEASE tell me of a good anti-virus program I can download
| for around $50.00? Am going to need some protection right away & there are
| so many on the market I don't know who to trust. Thanks alot.
| --
| Thanks-Alan
 
odeek9 said:
Hi-Please don't give me a hard time. I like NAV & have had it for
years. But everytime, for whatever reason, I've had to re-install it
it's been a nightmare! It does not matter what I do it never
installs properly. My PC is a mess right now & am getting ready to
upgrade with my XP Pro disc. Have removed all remnants of Symantec I
could find. Can someone PLEASE tell me of a good anti-virus
program I can download
for around $50.00? Am going to need some protection right away &
there are so many on the market I don't know who to trust. Thanks
alot.

Tip 9.. Any of them really.. Trend Micro or NOD32 are popular right now.
Use the rest to not spend as much and keep your computer up better than
most.

Microsoft has these suggestions for Protecting your computer from the
various things that could happen to you/it:

Protect your PC
http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/


Although those tips are fantastic, there are many things you should
know above and beyond what is there. Below I have detailed
out many steps that can not only help you clean-up a problem PC but
keep it clean ,secure and running at its top performance mark.

I know this text can seem intimidating - it is quite long and a lot
to take in for a novice - but I assure you that one trip through this
list and you will understand your computer and the options available
to you for protecting your data much better - and that the next time
you review these steps, the time it takes will be greatly reduced.

Let's take the cleanup of your computer step-by-step. Yes, it will take
up some of your time - but consider what you use your computer
for and how much you would dislike it if all of your stuff on your
computer went away because you did not "feel like" performing some
simple maintenance tasks - think of it like taking out your garbage,
collecting and sorting your postal mail, paying your bills on time,
etc.

I'll mainly work around Windows XP, as that is what the bulk of this
document is about; however, here is a place for you poor souls still
stuck in Windows 98/ME where you can get information on maintaining
your system:

Windows 98 and 'Maintaining Your Computer':
http://www.microsoft.com/windows98/usingwindows/maintaining/

Windows ME Computer Health:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsME/using/computerhealth/articles/

Pay close attention to the sections:
(in order)
- Clean up your hard disk
- Check for errors by running ScanDisk
- Defragment your hard disk
- Roll back the clock with System Restore


Also - now is a good time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find
information on problems you may be having and solutions others have found:

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )


Now, let's go through some maintenance first that should only have to be
done once (mostly):

Tip (1):
Locate all of the software you have installed on your computer.
(the installation media - CDs, downloaded files, etc)
Collect these CDs and files together in a central and safe
place along with their CD keys and such. Make backups of these
installation media sets using your favorite copying method (CD/DVD Burner
and application, Disk copier, etc.) You'll be glad to know that if you
have a CD/DVD burner, you may be able to use a free application to make a
duplicate copy of your CDs. One such application is ISORecorder:

ISORecorder page (with general instructions on use):
http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/beta.htm

Yes - it is BETA software - but very useful and well tested.

More full function applications (free) for CD/DVD burning would be:

DeepBurner Free
http://www.deepburner.com/

CDBurnerXP Pro
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

Another Option would be to search the web with Pricewatch.com or
Dealsites.net and find deals on Products like Ahead Nero and/or Roxio.


Tip (2):
Empty your Temporary Internet Files and shrink the size it stores to a
size between 128MB and 512MB..

- Open ONE copy of Internet Explorer.
- Select TOOLS -> Internet Options.
- Under the General tab in the "Temporary Internet Files" section, do the
following:
- Click on "Delete Cookies" (click OK)
- Click on "Settings" and change the "Amount of disk space to use:" to
something between 128MB and 512MB. (Betting it is MUCH larger right
now.)
- Click OK.
- Click on "Delete Files" and select to "Delete all offline contents"
(the checkbox) and click OK. (If you had a LOT, this could take 2-10
minutes or more.)
- Once it is done, click OK, close Internet Explorer, re-open Internet
Explorer.


Tip (3):
If things are running a bit sluggish and/or you have an older system
(1.5GHz or less and 256MB RAM or less) then you may want to look into
tweaking the performance by turning off some of the 'resource hogging'
Windows XP "prettifications". The fastest method is:

Control Panel --> System --> Advanced tab --> Performance section,
Settings button. Then choose "adjust for best performance" and you
now have a Windows 2000/98 look which turned off most of the annoying
"prettifications" in one swift action. You can play with the last
three checkboxes to get more of an XP look without many of the
other annoyances. You could also grab and install/use one
(or more) of the Microsoft Powertoys - TweakUI in particular:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx


Tip (4):
Understanding what a good password might be is vital to your
personal and system security. You may think you do not need to password
your home computer, as you may have it in a locked area (your home) where
no one else has access to it. Remember, however, you aren't always
"in that locked area" when using your computer online - meaning you likely
have usernames and passwords associated with web sites and the likes that
you would prefer other people do not discover/use. This is why you should
understand and utilize good passwords.

Good passwords are those that meet these general rules
(mileage may vary):

Passwords should contain at least six characters, and the character
string should contain at least three of these four character types:
- uppercase letters
- lowercase letters
- numerals
- nonalphanumeric characters (e.g., *, %, &, !, :)

Passwords should not contain your name/username.
Passwords should be unique to you and easy to remember.

One method many people are using today is to make up a phrase that
describes a point in their life and then turning that phrase into their
password by using only certain letters out of each word in that phrase.
It's much better than using your birthday month/year or your anniversary
in a pure sense. For example, let's say my phrase is:
'Moved to new home in 2004'
I could come up with this password from that:
'Mv2n3whmN04'

The password tip is in the one time section, but I highly
recommend you periodically change your passwords. The suggested time
varies, but I will throw out a 'once in every 3 to 6 months for
every account you have.'


Tip (5):
This tip is also 'questionable' in the one time section; however -
if properly setup - this one can be pretty well ignored for most people
after the initial 'fiddle-with' time.

Why you should use a computer firewall..
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/viruses/fwbenefits.mspx

You should, in some way, use a firewall. Hardware (like a nice
Cable Modem/DSL router) or software is up to you. Many use both of
these. The simplest one to use is the hardware one, as most people
don't do anything that they will need to configure their NAT device
for and those who do certainly will not mind fiddling with the equipment
to make things work for them. Next in the line of simplicity would
have to be the built-in Windows Firewall of Windows XP. In SP2 it
is turned on by default. It is not difficult to turn on in any
case, however:

Enable/Disable the Internet Connection Firewall (Pre-SP2):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/283673

More information on the Internet Connection Firewall (Pre-SP2):
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320855

Post-SP2 Windows Firewall Information/guidance:
http://snipurl.com/atal

The trouble with the Windows Firewall is that it only keeps things
out. For most people who maintain their system in other ways, this is
MORE than sufficient. However, you may feel otherwise. If you want to
know when one of your applications is trying to obtain access to the
outside world so you can stop it, then you will have to install a
third-party application and configure/maintain it. I have compiled a
list with links of some of the better known/free firewalls you can choose
from:

BlackICE PC Protection (~$39.95 and up)
http://blackice.iss.net/

Jetico Personal Firewall (Free)
http://www.jetico.com/index.htm#/jpfirewall.htm

Kerio Personal Firewall (KPF) (Free and up)
http://www.kerio.com/kpf_download.html

Outpost Firewall from Agnitum (Free and up)
http://www.agnitum.com/download/

Sygate Personal Firewall (Free and up)
http://smb.sygate.com/buy/download_buy.htm

Symantec's Norton Personal Firewall (~$25 and up)
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/nis/npf/

ZoneAlarm (Free and up)
http://snipurl.com/6ohg

You should find the right firewall for your situation in that
list and set it up.

Every firewall WILL require some maintenance. Essentially checking for
patches or upgrades (this goes for hardware and software solutions) is
the extent of this maintenance - you may also have to configure your
firewall to allow some traffic depending on your needs.

** Don't stack the software firewalls! Running more than one software
firewall will not make you safer - it would possibly negate some
protection you gleamed from one or the other firewall you run.


Now that you have some of the more basic things down..
Let's go through some of the steps you should take periodically to
maintain a healthy and stable windows computer. If you have not
done some of these things in the past, they may seem tedious - however,
they will become routine and some can even be automatically scheduled.


Tip (6):
The system restore feature is a new one - first appearing in Windows
ME and then sticking around for Windows XP. It is a useful feature
if you keep it maintained and use it to your advantage. Remember that
the system restore pretty much tells you in the name what it protects
which is 'system' files. Your documents, your pictures, your stuff is
NOT system files - so you should also look into some backup solution.

Whenever you think about it (after doing a once-over on your machine
once a month or so would be optimal) - clear out your System Restore
and create a manual restoration point.

'Why?'

Too many times have I seen the system restore files go corrupt or get
a virus in them, meaning you could not or did not want to restore from
them. By clearing it out periodically you help prevent any corruption
from happening and you make sure you have at least one good "snapshot".
(*This, of course, will erase any previous restore point you have.*)

- Turn off System Restore.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310405
- Reboot the Computer.
- Review the first bullet to turn on System Restore
- Make a Manual Restoration Point.
http://snipurl.com/68nx

That covers your system files, but doesn't do anything for the files
that you are REALLY worried about - yours! For that you need to look
into backups. You can either manually copy your important files, folders,
documents, spreadsheets, emails, contacts, pictures, drawings and so on
to an external location (CD/DVD - any disk of some sort, etc) or you can
use the backup tool that comes with Windows XP:

How To Use Backup to Back Up Files and Folders on Your Computer
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308422

Yes - you still need some sort of external media to store the results
on, but you could schedule the backup to occur when you are not around,
then burn the resultant data onto CD or DVD or something when you are
(while you do other things!)

A lot of people have wondered about how to completely backup their system
so that they would not have to go through the trouble of a reinstall..
I'm going to voice my opinion here and say that it would be worthless to
do for MOST people. Unless you plan on periodically updating the image
backup of your system (remaking it) - then by the time you use it
(something goes wrong) - it will be so outdated as to be more trouble than
performing a full install of the operating system and all applications.

Having said my part against it, you can clone/backup your hard drive
completely using many methods - by far the simplest are using disk cloning
applications:

Symantec/Norton Ghost
http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/

Acronis True Image
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage


Tip (7):
You should sometimes look through the list of applications that are
installed on your computer. The list may surprise you. There are more
than likely things in there you know you never use - so why have them
there? There may even be things you know you did *not* install and
certainly do not use (maybe don't WANT to use.)

This web site should help you get started at looking through this list:

How to Uninstall Programs
http://snipurl.com/8v6b

A word of warning - Do NOT uninstall anything you think you MIGHT need
in the future unless you have completed Tip (1) and have the installation
media and proper keys for use backed up somewhere safe!


Tip (8):
Patches and Updates!

This one cannot be stressed enough. It is SO simple, yet so neglected
by many people. It is especially simple for the critical Windows patches!
Microsoft put in an AUTOMATED feature for you to utilize so that you do
NOT have to worry yourself about the patching of the Operating System:

How to configure and use Automatic Updates in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306525

However, not everyone wants to be a slave to automation, and that is
fine. Admittedly, I prefer this method on some of my more critical
systems.

Windows Update
http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/

Go there and scan your machine for updates. Always get the critical ones
as you see them. Write down the KB###### or Q###### you see when
selecting the updates and if you have trouble over the next few days,
go into your control panel (Add/Remove Programs), insure that the
'Show Updates' checkbox is checked and match up the latest numbers you
downloaded recently (since you started noticing an issue) and uninstall
them. If there was more than one (usually is), uninstall them one by one
with a few hours of use in between, to see if the problem returns.
Yes - the process is not perfect (updating) and can cause trouble like I
mentioned - but as you can see, the solution isn't that bad - and is
MUCH better than the alternatives.

Windows is not the only product you likely have on your PC. The
manufacturers of the other products usually have updates. New versions
of almost everything come out all the time - some are free, some are pay
and some you can only download if you are registered - but it is best
to check. Just go to their web pages and look under their support and
download sections. For example, for Microsoft Office you should visit:

Microsoft Office Updates
http://office.microsoft.com/
(and select 'Check for Updates' and/or 'Downloads' for more)

You also have hardware on your machine that requires drivers to interface
with the operating system. You have a video card that allows you to see on
your screen, a sound card that allows you to hear your PCs sound output and
so on. Visit those manufacturer web sites for the latest downloadable
drivers for your hardware/operating system. Always get the manufacturers'
hardware driver over any Microsoft offers. On the Windows Update site I
mentioned earlier, I suggest NOT getting their hardware drivers - no matter
how tempting.

How do you know what hardware you have in your computer? Break out the
invoice or if it is up and working now - take inventory:

Belarc Advisor
http://belarc.com/free_download.html

EVEREST Home Edition
http://www.lavalys.com/products/download.php?pid=1&lang=en

Once you know what you have, what next? Go get the latest driver for your
hardware/OS from the manufacturer's web page. For example, let's say you
have an NVidia chipset video card or ATI video card, perhaps a Creative
Labs sound card or C-Media chipset sound card...

NVidia Video Card Drivers
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

ATI Video Card Drivers
http://www.atitech.com/support/driver.html

Creative Labs Sound Device
http://us.creative.com/support/downloads/

C-Media Sound Device
http://www.cmedia.com.tw/e_download_01.htm

Then install these drivers. Updated drivers are usually more stable and
may provide extra benefits/features that you really wished you had before.

As for Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP, Microsoft has made this
particular patch available in a number of ways. First, there is the
Windows Update web page above. Then there is a direct download site.

Direct Download of Service Pack 2 (SP2) for Windows XP
http://snipurl.com/8bqy

If all else fails - grab the full download above and try to use that.
In this case - consider yourself a 'IT professional or developer'.


Tip (9):
What about the dreaded word in the computer world, VIRUS?

Well, there are many products to choose from that will help you prevent
infections from these horrid little applications. Many are FREE to the
home user and which you choose is a matter of taste, really. Many people
have emotional attachments or performance issues with one or another
AntiVirus software. Try some out, read reviews and decide for yourself
which you like more:

( Good Comparison Page for AV software: http://www.av-comparatives.org/ )

AntiVir (Free and up)
http://www.free-av.com/

avast! (Free and up)
http://www.avast.com/

AVG Anti-Virus System (Free and up)
http://free.grisoft.com/

eset NOD32 (~$39.00 and up)
http://www.eset.com/products/products.htm

eTrust EZ Antivirus (~$29.95 and up)
http://ca.com/store/home/us/hp2/

Kaspersky Anti-Virus (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.kaspersky.com/products.html

McAfee VirusScan (~$11 and up)
http://www.mcafee.com/

Panda Antivirus Titanium (~$39.95 and up)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/
(Free Online Scanner: http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/)

RAV AntiVirus Online Virus Scan (Free!)
http://www.ravantivirus.com/scan/

Symantec (Norton) AntiVirus (~$11 and up)
http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_9xnt/

Trend Micro (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.trendmicro.com/en/home/us/personal.htm
(Free Online Scanner:
http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp)


Most of them have automatic update capabilities. You will have to
look into the features of the one you choose. Whatever one you finally
settle with - be SURE to keep it updated (I recommend at least daily) and
perform a full scan periodically (yes, most protect you actively, but a
full scan once a month at 4AM probably won't bother you.)


Tip (10):
The most rampant infestation at the current time concerns SPYWARE/ADWARE.
You need to eliminate it from your machine.

There is no one software that cleans and immunizes you against
everything. Antivirus software - you only needed one. Firewall, you
only needed one. AntiSpyware - you will need several. I have a list and
I recommend you use at least the first five.

First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are
people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install
spyware of their own! You need to avoid these:

Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

Also, you can always visit this site..
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
For more updated information.

Install the first five of these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..)
(If you already have one or more - uninstall them and download the
LATEST version from the page given!)

Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up)
http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn )

Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!)
http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk )

Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!)
http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 )

SpywareBlaster (Free!)
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 )

IE-SPYAD2 (Free!)
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 )

CWShredder Stand-Alone (Free!)
http://www.intermute.com/spysubtract/cwshredder_download.html

Hijack This! (Free!)
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/downloads.html
(Log Analyzer: http://hjt.iamnotageek.com/ )

ToolbarCop (Free!)
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm

Microsoft AntiSpyware BETA (in testing stages - Free!)
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/fqur )

Browser Security Tests (Free Tester)
http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/

Popup Tester (Free Tester)
http://www.popuptest.com/

The Cleaner (~$49.95 and up)
http://www.moosoft.com/

Sometimes you need to install the application and reboot into SAFE MODE in
order to thoroughly clean your computer. Many applications also have
(or are) immunization applications. Spybot Search and Destroy and
SpywareBlaster are two that currently do the best job at passively
protecting your system from malware. None of these programs (in these
editions) run in the background unless you TELL them to. The space they
take up and how easy they are to use greatly makes up for any inconvenience
you may be feeling.

Please notice that Windows XP SP2 does help stop popups as well.

Another option is to use an alternative Web browser. I suggest
'Mozilla Firefox', as it has some great features and is very easy to use:

Mozilla Firefox
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/


So your machine is pretty clean and up to date now. If you use the sections
above as a guide, it should stay that way as well! There are still a few
more things you can do to keep your machine running in top shape.


Tip (11):
You should periodically check your hard drive(s) for errors and defragment
them. Only defragment after you have cleaned up your machine of
outside parasites and never defragment as a solution to a quirkiness in
your system. It may help speed up your system, but it should be clean
before you do this. Do these things IN ORDER...

How to use Disk Cleanup
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310312

How to scan your disks for errors
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315265

How to Defragment your hard drives
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314848

I would personally perform the above steps at least once every three months.
For most people this should be sufficient, but if the difference you notice
afterwards is greater than you think it should be, lessen the time in
between its schedule.. If the difference you notice is negligible, you can
increase the time.


Tip (12):
SPAM! JUNK MAIL!
This one can get annoying, just like the rest. You get 50 emails in one
sitting and 2 of them you wanted. NICE! (Not.) What can you do? Well,
although there are services out there to help you, some email
servers/services that actually do lower your spam with features built into
their servers - I still like the methods that let you be the end-decision
maker on what is spam and what is not. I have two products to suggest to
you, look at them and see if either of them suite your needs. Again, if
they don't, Google is free and available for your perusal.

SpamBayes (Free!)
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/

Spamihilator (Free!)
http://www.spamihilator.com/

As I said, those are not your only options, but are reliable ones I have
seen function for hundreds+ people.


Tip (13):
ADVANCED TIP! Only do this once you are comfortable under the hood of your
computer!

There are lots of services on your PC that are probably turned on by default
you don't use. Why have them on? Check out these web pages to see what all
of the services you might find on your computer are and set them according
to your personal needs. Be CAREFUL what you set to manual, and take heed
and write down as you change things! Also, don't expect a large performance
increase or anything - especially on today's 2+ GHz machines, however - I
look at each service you set to manual as one less service you have to worry
about someone exploiting.

Black Viper Service Configuration Tips
http://www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

Configuring Services
http://snakefoot.fateback.com/tweak/winnt/services.html

Task List Programs
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Tasklist_pages/tasklist.htm

Processes in Windows NT/2000/XP
http://www.reger24.de/prozesse/

There are also applications that AREN'T services that startup when you start
up the computer/logon. One of the better description on how to handle these
I have found here:

Startups
http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php


If you follow the advice laid out above (and do some of your own research as
well, so you understand what you are doing) - your computer will stay fairly
stable and secure and you will have a more trouble-free system.
 
Hello Odeek9;

I think Panda is a good AV.
Panda
http://www.pandasoftware.com/activescan/

Read this:
Document ID:2005033108162039
Last Modified:10/05/2005


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Situation:
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Solution:
SymNRT is a program that can remove some Norton software from your computer.
SymNRT runs on Windows 98, Windows Me, Windows 2000, and Windows XP.

SymNRT should be used only if you have tried to uninstall the Norton program
using Windows Add/Remove Programs and that did not work.

Will SymNRT work for you?
SymNRT will remove these--and only these--Norton programs:

Norton AntiVirus 2004/2005
Norton AntiVirus Professional 2004
Norton AntiVirus 3, 5 and 10 User Pack 2004/2005
Norton SystemWorks 2004/2004 Professional Edition
Norton SystemWorks 2005/2005 Premier edition
Norton Password Manager 2004
Norton Internet Security 2004/2005
Norton Internet Security 5 and 10 User Pack 2004/2005
Norton Personal Firewall 2004/2005
Norton AntiSpam 2004/2005
Ghost 2003 or Ghost Version 9.0

If your program is not in this list, do not use SymNRT. It will not remove
your program. If you need help with removing programs not in this list, go to
the Technical Information section near the bottom of this page.


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Note: As part of the steps that follow, you will have to restart your
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What should you do first?
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If you have tried to uninstall your Norton program using Add/Remove Programs
and the process failed, then begin with "Section 2: Using SymNRT."


Section 1: Uninstalling your program using Windows Add/Remove Programs
In most cases we recommend that you uninstall all Norton and Symantec
programs. And, because Windows Add/Remove Programs does the most complete
uninstall, you should always try it first. Before you use it, however, please
record your product or activation key.


To record your product or activation key
Record your product or activation key for your records. You will need this
key to reinstall your program.
For instructions on how to find your product or activation key, read the
document Locating your product or activation key.

To uninstall all Norton and Symantec programs
Do one of the following:
In Windows 98/Me/2000, on the Windows taskbar, click Start > Settings >
Control Panel. Double-click Add/Remove Programs.
In Windows XP, on the Windows taskbar, click Start > Control Panel.
Double-click Add or Remove Programs.
Click the name of one of the installed Norton or Symantec programs.

(For example, you may have one of more of the following programs installed:
Norton AntiSpam, Norton AntiVirus, Norton Ghost, Norton GoBack, Norton
Internet Security, Norton SystemWorks, Symantec pcAnywhere, Symantec Ghost,
Norton PartionMagic, WinFax PRO, or ACT!.)

If you have WinFax PRO and you want to back up your fax data, follow the
steps in How to use the Add/Remove Programs option to remove WinFax PRO or
TalkWorks PRO.

If you have ACT! and you want to back up your contact data before
uninstalling the program, follow the steps in How to Back Up and Restore Your
ACT! Database.

Depending on your version of Windows, click Add/Remove, Change/Remove, or
Remove or Change, and follow the prompts to uninstall the program.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note: If the uninstall fails when you are uninstalling one of the programs
supported by SymNRT (listed above), then use the steps in this section to
remove all of your other Norton or Symantec programs. After they are removed,
go on to "Section 2: Using SymNRT."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Restart the computer, if asked to do so.
Repeat steps 2 and 3 until all Symantec or Norton programs are uninstalled.
Restart the computer.
Do one of the following:
If you were able to remove all of your Norton or Symantec programs, then you
do not need to use SymNRT. You are done.
If you were not able to remove one of the programs supported by SymNRT
(listed at the beginning of this document), but you were able to remove all
of your other Symantec programs (if any), then go on to the next section,
"Section 2: Using SymNRT."


Section 2: Using SymNRT
Do not use this section unless you have tried to uninstall your Norton
program with Windows Add/Remove Programs. For programs listed above that
could not be removed using Add/Remove programs, follow these steps:

Close all open programs.
Click the following link to begin the download for SymNRT.exe:

SymNRT.exe

Save the file to the Windows desktop.

When the download is finished, on the Windows desktop, double-click
SymNRT.exe, and then follow the on-screen instructions. Restart the computer
if prompted.
If you see the error "SymNRT: Invalid signature. This file is not signed."
when running SymNRT, go to the document Error: "SymNRT: Invalid signature.
This file is not signed so it won't run."
If you see the error "Symantec removal tool has encountered an error and
needs to close," try running the tool a second time. If that does not work,
see Error: "Symantec removal tool has encountered an error and needs to close"
On your desktop, right-click SymNRT.exe, and then click Delete. Click Yes to
confirm the deletion.
Answer Yes or No to this question: Have you ever had any of these programs
installed (even if you later uninstalled or upgraded them):

Norton AntiVirus 2003 or earlier
Norton Internet Security 2003 or earlier
Norton Personal Firewall 2003 or earlier
Norton SystemWorks 2003 or earlier

Do one of the following:
If you answered Yes--you did at one time have one or more of these programs
installed, then go on to Section 3.
If you answered No--you never had any Norton program that was version 2003
or earlier, your are done.

For help with reinstallation, read Reinstalling your Symantec program after
a failed installation or after you see error messages.


Section 3: Removing files and registry settings left over from 2003 or
earlier programs
If you have ever had any of these programs installed:

Norton AntiVirus 2003 or earlier
Norton Internet Security 2003 or earlier (which included Norton AntiVirus)
Norton Personal Firewall 2003 or earlier (which included Norton AntiVirus)
Norton SystemWorks 2003 or earlier (which included Norton AntiVirus)

then, after using SymNRT, you must run three small programs, Rnav2003.exe,
RnisUPG.exe, and SYMCLN.exe to clean up any folders or registry keys that
were left from old installations.

To run Rnav2003.exe
Click the following link to begin downloading Rnav2003.exe:

Rnav2003.exe

Save the file to your Windows desktop.

Double-click the Rnav2003.exe icon on the Windows desktop.

If you have Windows XP Service Pack 2, you may see the message "The
publisher could not be verified. Are you sure you want to run this software?"
If you see this, click Run.

On the RNAV Question screen, click No to continue the process.
Choose the version of Norton AntiVirus that was first installed.

For example:
The first version of Norton Internet Security you installed was Norton
Internet Security 2001. You later upgraded to Norton Internet Security 2002
and then to Norton Internet Security 2003.

In this case, when asked to choose the version, choose Norton AntiVirus 2001.

Click Yes to start uninstalling.
A progress indicator appears while the Rnav2003.exe utility removes Norton
AntiVirus files and registry keys.
Click Yes to restart the computer when the uninstallation is completed.
Do one of the following:
If you now have run the Rnav2003.exe utility for all older versions of
Norton AntiVirus that were ever installed, go on to "To run RnisUPG.exe."
If you have not finished running the Rnav2003.exe utility for all older
versions of Norton AntiVirus that were ever installed, go on to step 8.
Repeat steps 2 through 7 for any other previous versions of Norton AntiVirus
that you have had installed.

Using the example from step 4, in the first pass you chose Norton AntiVirus
2001. The second time choose Norton AntiVirus 2002 and the third time choose
Norton AntiVirus 2003.

When all old versions have been removed, go on "To run RnisUPG.exe."

To run RnisUPG.exe
Click the following link to begin downloading RnisUPG.exe

RnisUPG.exe

Save the file to your Windows desktop. If you have Windows XP Service Pack
2, you may see the message "The publisher could not be verified. Are you sure
you want to run this software?" If so, click Run.
On the Windows desktop, double-click RnisUPG.exe and follow the on-screen
instructions.
Restart the computer when prompted.

To run the SYMCLN.exe removal utility
Click the following link to begin downloading SYMCLN.exe:

SYMCLN.exe

Save the file to your Windows desktop. If you have Windows XP Service Pack
2, you may see the message "The publisher could not be verified. Are you sure
you want to run this software?" If so, click Run.

On the Windows desktop, double-click SYMCLN.exe and follow the on-screen
instructions.
Click Remove All. This choice uninstalls all of the listed products. You
will see a warning message that prompts for confirmation.
Click Yes to proceed.
If you see the message "Do you want to completely remove Netscape (7.0) and
all its components?", choose No. Netscape 7.0 and older Norton SystemWorks
versions both use the file NSuninst.exe. Removing that file may prevent
Netscape from functioning correctly.
When you see a prompt to restart the computer, answer Yes.
Restart the computer when prompted.

Go on to the section "Section 4: Reinstall your Norton programs."


Section 4: Reinstall your Norton programs
Do one of the following:
If you are going to reinstall any Norton 2004 programs, go to step 2:
If you are going to reinstall only Norton 2005 programs, skip to step 4.
Click the following link to begin downloading LRSetup.exe:

LRSetup.exe

Save the file to your Windows desktop. If you have Windows XP Service Pack
2, you may see the message "The publisher could not be verified. Are you sure
you want to run this software?" If so, click Run.

On the Windows desktop, double-click LRSetup.exe and follow the on-screen
instructions. When the file is installed, go on to step 4
Reinstall you programs. For help with this, read Reinstalling your Symantec
program after a failed installation or after you see error messages.


By running SymNRT, Rnav2003, RnisUPG, and SYMCLN, you have removed every
component of the programs supported by SymNRT, as well as Norton AntiVirus,
Norton Internet Security, Norton Personal Firewall, and Norton SystemWorks
2003 and earlier.



Technical Information:
Removing programs that cannot be removed using SymNRT
SymNRT will remove current versions of Norton programs as described above.
If you need to remove any of the following programs and you have not
installed the 2004 or 2005 version of that program, read Uninstalling and
reinstalling your Symantec program after you see error messages.
Norton AntiVirus 2003 or earlier
Norton AntiVirus Professional 2003 or earlier
Norton SystemWorks Standard and Professional 2003 or earlier
Norton Internet Security 2003 or earlier
Norton Personal FireWall 2003 or earlier
 
odeek9 said:
Hi-Please don't give me a hard time. I like NAV & have had it for years.
But everytime, for whatever reason, I've had to re-install it it's been a
nightmare! It does not matter what I do it never installs properly. My PC
is a mess right now & am getting ready to upgrade with my XP Pro disc. Have
removed all remnants of Symantec I could find.
Can someone PLEASE tell me of a good anti-virus program I can download
for around $50.00? Am going to need some protection right away & there are
so many on the market I don't know who to trust. Thanks alot.

I use Trend Micro Internet Suite 2005. I've never had a problem with
their products and I've used them for several years. Shop around you can
usually find for less than the list price. Includes Firewall and Anti
spyware also blocks personal info from being collected.

http://www.trendmicro.com/home/default.asp
 
After you uninstall Symatec run Ccleaner

Download and install Ccleªner

http://www.ccleaner.com/download124.asp

Open Ccleaner and press "Run Cleaner" from the menu choose 'Issues' and then
press scan for issues, Repair any fºund.


More info; Panda and Ewido, Trendmicro.

http://www.pandasoftware.com/about/resp_social/children_internet
Because of the campaign "Children and the Internet"
Panda Software offers 90 day free trial version of one of the best security
softwªre.
Panda Platininum Internet Security 2005 awarded with many prizes

http://www.pandasoftware.com/protected/tips.htm ;
useful tips for protecting cºmputers

http://www.pandasoftware.com/products/activescan/com/activescan_principal.htm
Panda Software free Active Scan,where you can check your PC for ALL TYPES of
security threats and clean viruses and wºrms

Open a Internet window and go to Internet Options, Delete Cookies and Temp
Files and included all offline content then also go to start and run and type
%temp% and clear that fºlder.

Run the Disk Cleanup tººl
To start the Disk Cleanup tool, click Start, click run, type cleanmgr.exe in
the Open box, and then click OK.

Empty your IE cache and your other temporary file folders, eg: c:\temp,
c:\windows\temp or C:\Documents and Settings\<name>\Local Settings\Temp (the
path to your temp folder will change depending on your name) - sometimes
programmes can be hidden in there - watch out for mysterious *.exe files or
*.dll files in those fºlders.
and c:\Documents and Settings\username\local settings\Temporary Internet
Files\Content.IE5 and delete all the files in
those directories and subdirectories).
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/delcache.htm

You can clear prefetch files by going to Start menu and run and typing

prefetch

and then click OK.

Prefetch files are there to help programs load/open quicker but they will be
replaced in prefetch when they are used agªin.



Posted by Andy Manchesta:

Can you try these :

Ewido Security Suite:

Download Ewido scªn

http://www.ewido.net/en/download/

*When installing, under "Additional Options" uncheck "Install background
guard" and "Install scan via context menu".
*Run Ewido. From the main ewido screen, click on update in the left menu,
then click the Start update buttºn.
*After the update finishes (the status bar at the bottom will display
"Update successful")

Now scan with Ewido. Click on the Scanner button in the left menu, then
click on Complete System Scan. This scan can take quite a while to run.

Once its started scanning it will display an alert window when it finds any
infected files, when you see this first alert check the boxes "Perform action
with all infections" and "Create encrypted backup" before clicking on ºk

When the scan finishes, If ewido finds anything in the scan click on "Save
Report". This will create a text file. Save to desktop or c:drive incase you
need to post it bªck.

While I posting Ewido does say its a 14 day free trial but it still works
fine after the trial has expired, All it does after the 14 days is stop the
real time protection and auto updates but I never advise that to be enabled
at setup anyway as it can interfere with other real time protection programs
plus the updates can be done manually anytime you wish so it may be usefull
to keep it incase you need to use it again in the future.


Next run the Housecall online virus scan located ªt:

http://housecall.trendmicro.com/housecall/start_corp.asp

Follow the prompts to scan your hard drive for viruses. Select the
"Autoclean" option so that Housecall will remove any viruses from your system.
When the scan is finished, please restart your cºmputer

If that fails to help things let us know and we can try fully removing MSAS
and all its files/folders & Registry entries then do a fresh instªll.

Regards

Good luck

Engel
 
odeek9 said:
Hi-Please don't give me a hard time. I like NAV & have had it for years.
But everytime, for whatever reason, I've had to re-install it it's been a
nightmare! It does not matter what I do it never installs properly. My PC
is a mess right now & am getting ready to upgrade with my XP Pro disc. Have
removed all remnants of Symantec I could find.
Can someone PLEASE tell me of a good anti-virus program I can download
for around $50.00? Am going to need some protection right away & there are
so many on the market I don't know who to trust. Thanks alot.

I've got about 1500 installs of Symantec AV products running without
problem - they are the non-home user version, but we also have about 75
Norton AV installs running without a problem.

You mention a couple things - one is that you have trouble reinstalling
Norton, that you're about to upgrade, and that you have trouble with
installing norton...

Norton Antivirus 2005 is a good product, but I would never install
Norton Internet Security on a machine - only AV.

What version of NAV were you running and on what operating system?
 

Panda is the worst crap I've had the displeasure of encountering. We
just uninstalled it (mostly by hacking the registry) on 18 machines and
a server. It slowed the machines to a crawl on every one of them, it
took more than 20 minutes to uninstall itself on machines that it
actually did uninstall from....

I would not wish Panda on my worst enemy.
 
Alan,

My wife's computer has had NAV and Norton Systemworks for many many YEARS
and we have always been very happy with it.

But, about 4 months ago, we did the normal annual update (and paid for it)
and we have not been able to get any of it running since. It apparently
messed up the Microsoft Installer and I spent about two solid weeks talking
to everyone from Calcuta and Bombay to Norton and Microsoft headquarters. I
was on a first name basis with both Norton and Microsoft tech guys. I
finally gave up and put on Grisoft AVG free. I might try to attack the
problem one more time when I have some spare time ... which might be never.
But, it does piss me off that we paid for a full year subscription and
didn't get anything out of it. I have a very bad taste in my mouth over it.

Good luck,

Tom
 
Hey- NAV 2005 on xp pro. It's always worked great for me also, but because
of buying new PCs or doing a clean install of mt xp either the purchased disc
would not install( I think Symantec allows only one usage per disc) or on
purchased downloads usually there's an error. They let me re-download from
www.findmyorder.com this time & I used it 4 FOUR! times & the worm intrusion
would not install. Went through all of their steps for error 1804 & still
zilch. I've had it. Thanks-alan
 
Tom-Same here. I made so many phone calls, one not toll free, that I asked a
couple of guys if they had cobras around their homes.
 
Thanks so much to everyone. I now have a ton of reading & research to do.
Plenty of great suggestions-Thanks, again. Alan
 
In odeek9 <[email protected]> had this to say:

My reply is at the bottom of your sent message:
Hi-Please don't give me a hard time. I like NAV & have had it for
years. But everytime, for whatever reason, I've had to re-install it
it's been a nightmare! It does not matter what I do it never
installs properly. My PC is a mess right now & am getting ready to
upgrade with my XP Pro disc. Have removed all remnants of Symantec I
could find. Can someone PLEASE tell me of a good anti-virus
program I can download
for around $50.00? Am going to need some protection right away &
there are so many on the market I don't know who to trust. Thanks
alot.

I use and recommend KAV. www.kaspersky.com for English speaking people.
Fairly light on resources, simple to install, fairly fault free, small
updates, updated many times per day some days, and as high a detection rate
as most anything else on the market and higher than most.

--
Galen - MS MVP - Windows (Shell/User & IE)

"You know that a conjurer gets no credit when once he has explained his
trick; and if I show you too much of my method of working, you will
come to the conclusion that I am a very ordinary individual after all."

Sherlock Holmes
 
odeek9 said:
Hi-Please don't give me a hard time. I like NAV & have had it for years.
But everytime, for whatever reason, I've had to re-install it it's been a
nightmare! It does not matter what I do it never installs properly. My PC
is a mess right now & am getting ready to upgrade with my XP Pro disc. Have
removed all remnants of Symantec I could find.
Can someone PLEASE tell me of a good anti-virus program I can download
for around $50.00? Am going to need some protection right away & there are
so many on the market I don't know who to trust. Thanks alot.



You'll get nearly as many differing opinions as you will responses.

I used, and recommended, Norton Antivirus and then Norton Internet
Security, for many years, on Win98, WinNT, Win2K, and WinXP, all without
any significant problems. I had used McAfee prior to that. But it's
been several years since I've been tempted to try McAfee products. Their
quality seemed to take a steep nose-dive after they were acquired by
Network Associates.

However, when my subscription to Symantec's updates for Norton
Internet Security 2002 came up for renewal (at a cost substantially
higher than the preceding year's subscription), I decided to try less
expensive solutions. I downloaded and installed the free version of
GriSoft's AVG (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php ) and the free
version of Sygate's Personal Firewall
(http://smb.sygate.com/free/default.php ). Both have proven to be
easily installed, easy to use, and quite effective. Additionally, I was
pleasantly surprised to see a small but very noticeable improvement in
my PC's performance, once I'd replaced the Symantec product.



--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
 
Me too...and Live Update fails every month around the 15th. Norton's not on
my list of favorites anymore...took me all day to remove all traces of it
and went with Computer Associates AV...seems now my machine runs much mo
better too.

and got rid of WinFax Pro too...happy happy now.


| Alan,
|
| My wife's computer has had NAV and Norton Systemworks for many many YEARS
| and we have always been very happy with it.
|
| But, about 4 months ago, we did the normal annual update (and paid for it)
| and we have not been able to get any of it running since. It apparently
| messed up the Microsoft Installer and I spent about two solid weeks
talking
| to everyone from Calcuta and Bombay to Norton and Microsoft headquarters.
I
| was on a first name basis with both Norton and Microsoft tech guys. I
| finally gave up and put on Grisoft AVG free. I might try to attack the
| problem one more time when I have some spare time ... which might be
never.
| But, it does piss me off that we paid for a full year subscription and
| didn't get anything out of it. I have a very bad taste in my mouth over
it.
|
| Good luck,
|
| Tom
|
|
|
|
| | > Hi-Please don't give me a hard time. I like NAV & have had it for
years.
| > But everytime, for whatever reason, I've had to re-install it it's been
a
| > nightmare! It does not matter what I do it never installs properly. My
| > PC
| > is a mess right now & am getting ready to upgrade with my XP Pro disc.
| > Have
| > removed all remnants of Symantec I could find.
| > Can someone PLEASE tell me of a good anti-virus program I can
download
| > for around $50.00? Am going to need some protection right away & there
| > are
| > so many on the market I don't know who to trust. Thanks alot.
| > --
| > Thanks-Alan
|
|
|
 
No. I havent moved my modem from the old machine yet but when I do I think
I'm just gonna try the fax in XP Pro and see if that will work for me. Since
I don't do as much faxing as I did in the olden days it may just fit the
bill. Exporting all my fax numbers from WinFax will be fun. Archiving the
Winfax Pro fax files is going to be ridiculous, I found one program that
will convert .fxr files to .tifs ... I may have to buy that.


| So did you find a decent replacement for winfax pro?
|
| | > Me too...and Live Update fails every month around the 15th. Norton's not
| on
| > my list of favorites anymore...took me all day to remove all traces of
it
| > and went with Computer Associates AV...seems now my machine runs much mo
| > better too.
| >
| > and got rid of WinFax Pro too...happy happy now.
| >
| >
| > | > | Alan,
| > |
| > | My wife's computer has had NAV and Norton Systemworks for many many
| YEARS
| > | and we have always been very happy with it.
| > |
| > | But, about 4 months ago, we did the normal annual update (and paid for
| it)
| > | and we have not been able to get any of it running since. It
apparently
| > | messed up the Microsoft Installer and I spent about two solid weeks
| > talking
| > | to everyone from Calcuta and Bombay to Norton and Microsoft
| headquarters.
| > I
| > | was on a first name basis with both Norton and Microsoft tech guys. I
| > | finally gave up and put on Grisoft AVG free. I might try to attack the
| > | problem one more time when I have some spare time ... which might be
| > never.
| > | But, it does piss me off that we paid for a full year subscription and
| > | didn't get anything out of it. I have a very bad taste in my mouth
over
| > it.
| > |
| > | Good luck,
| > |
| > | Tom
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | | > | > Hi-Please don't give me a hard time. I like NAV & have had it for
| > years.
| > | > But everytime, for whatever reason, I've had to re-install it it's
| been
| > a
| > | > nightmare! It does not matter what I do it never installs properly.
| My
| > | > PC
| > | > is a mess right now & am getting ready to upgrade with my XP Pro
disc.
| > | > Have
| > | > removed all remnants of Symantec I could find.
| > | > Can someone PLEASE tell me of a good anti-virus program I can
| > download
| > | > for around $50.00? Am going to need some protection right away &
| there
| > | > are
| > | > so many on the market I don't know who to trust. Thanks alot.
| > | > --
| > | > Thanks-Alan
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|
 
Panda ^slows down^ the computer because needs more RAM or faster processor
because it scans EVERYTHING for infection.

Panda_man
 
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