Going back to Epson ink?

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That's not my experience when I was using just the Epson cartridges. When
one went empty, I replaced it and the others went on merrily. I know it
does a "head (nozzle) cleaning" each time, but I have no idea how much ink
gets used. Based on the amount I clean from the foam on the cleaning
station, it isn't much for a single cleaning.
 
Do you have experience with the Epson 2200 with MediaStreet inks? (Niagara
2 CIS, Generation G ultrachrome ink)? It has taken months to figure out how
not to get scuffing on the prints (exit rollers and pizza wheels) and still
do borderless printing, but I think I've done it (although it is a pain each
time i print a different size print).

But I often lose yellow. It comes back after I clean/purge air/whistle &
spit, but I have no idea which actually worked. Right now, nothing does.
I've syringe-extracted ink/air from the cartridge (supplied by MS), to no
avail. (But I get a vacuum: I would think that I should be able to just
draw up in the cartridge & it would be continuously replaced by what's in
the reservoir bottle, but this does not happen). I'm about to give up. I
can't find any other compatible (archival) inks, so I really want to work it
out (costs 1/5 what Epson does, assuming the Epson cartridges are 14 ml -
do you know?). I print lots because I sell photos (framed, matted, cards).
 
Can I put back the orginal Epson cartridges I took out,
even though they're not full? At least one is empty, but
I don't remember which.
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Yes you can. I suggest the second solution below.

Alternatively, I might just use the Epson yellow with the
other MS cartridges. MS yellow cartridge is notoriously
bad, and now I can't get it to work at all. I could just take
out the MS cartridge, plug the tubing, and put in the
Epson cartridge, right?
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You are right. You can plug the tube, deattach the tube from cartridge, and
put an original cartridge in place of the yellow. I think I know about your
problem. If you want contact me via email (e-mail address removed) for further
discussion.
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I'm having so much trouble with MediaStreet ink (continuous flow system) for
my Epson 2200 that I may go back to Epson, at 5 times the cost. Can I put
back the orginal Epson cartridges I took out, even though they're not full?
At least one is empty, but I don't remember which.

Alternatively, I might just use the Epson yellow with the other MS
cartridges. MS yellow cartridge is notoriously bad, and now I can't get it
to work at all. I could just take out the MS cartridge, plug the tubing,
and put in the Epson cartridge, right?
 
Based on the amount I clean from the foam on the cleaning station,
it isn't much for a single cleaning.
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Current design is to have a pump driven by the pladen when going in
reverse. Assuming the 2200 is the same you're not going to see the
volume of ink in the cleaning station. If the 2200 is the same design
the foam you are seeing is likely the suction action mixing with air.
If you had your waste tube routed through to a jug you could see the
value. I must admit my experence is with the r200, and boy does it
purge.
 
What a pain in the ass. It hurts even to read this crap. if a person
is intent on risking their printer, don't care what you buy cause they
won't tell you, and do not want a pain in the ass, then if your
printload is very high you should take a chance on prefilled carts.
 
It is simple. Epson inks for Epson printers should work best.

Sure does. Clogs equaly well both ways.
 
measekite said:
What a pain in the ass. It hurts even to read this crap. if a person
is intent on risking their printer, don't care what you buy cause they
won't tell you, and do not want a pain in the ass, then if your
printload is very high you should take a chance on prefilled carts.
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No, the real 'pain in the ass' is you and trying to decipher wtf you're
actually saying.
I'm sure your mommy is willing to take you to night reading & writing
comprehension & composition classes at you're local adult education center.
It's not too late to enroll.
Frank
 
measekite said:
It is simple. Epson inks for Epson printers should work best.
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What is really simple to understand is that Measekite has absolutely zero
experience with Epson aftermarket inks or with Epson printers and should
definitely refrain from putting his valueless two cents in where he has no
knowledge. The OP is using a continuous flow system for high volume
printing - something that commercial firms do with great success. These
systems can sometimes be tempermental.
 
measekite said:
It is simple. Epson inks for Epson printers should work best.
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And which Epson printer(s) do you own and have the experience of using
3rd party inks in and that clogged your Epson printer?
We want to know...we're waiting!
Frank

P.S. FYI I just order 20 3rd party black carts and 10 color carts today.
Should be here by Wed.
Know how much $'s I saved (for about the 50th time)?
:-P
 
measekite said:
What a pain in the ass. It hurts even to read this crap. if a person is
intent on risking their printer, don't care what you buy cause they won't
tell you, and do not want a pain in the ass, then if your printload is
very high you should take a chance on prefilled carts.
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Inkystinky, aka Mr. Know-nothing-about-aftermarket-inks, tries to give
advice on something he has zero experience with. If it hurts you to read my
posts, Measekite, you are certainly welcome to kill file me! I think that
it is a good idea for inkjet printer owners to know more than "put the paper
in the top and push the print button." If a problem occurs you may be able
to solve it without paying a repair person or buying a new printer. Even if
you are a committed OEM ink user it doesn't hurt to know about potential
problems with ink cartridges.

I was responding to questions about the sponge material in cartridges and
indicating that the Epson carts were more troublesome to refill, in my
opinion, than Canon carts. I have had personal experience with both and
Measekite, who says it hurts to read my post, has experience with neither.

(snip)
 
No it is not simple! Like most things in life it is a calculated balance.
You on the other hand are very simple, and manage to prove it at every
opportunity.
Tony
 
Duh!
Non sequitur as usual.
Tony

measekite said:
What a pain in the ass. It hurts even to read this crap. if a person
is intent on risking their printer, don't care what you buy cause they
won't tell you, and do not want a pain in the ass, then if your
printload is very high you should take a chance on prefilled carts.
Click to expand...
 
Hi Alan,

Mediastreet cartridges probably are with sponge inside. Its a system
that companies are moving away from, especially for pigmented inks.

Epson has removed the sponges form their ink cartridges since they moved
to the individual cartridges for each color. Ink Republic, for one, now
makes a spongeless CIS. I would ask Mediastreet what they are using for
your CIS.

Yellow ink is notoriously problematic, for dye and pigment. The
colorant tends to precipitate out. This is particularly true if the ink
is outdated, and uses a pigment colorant.

You may need to back flush your cartridge if it has a sponge in it.

Art
 
Initial purge for a new cartridge uses more ink than a regular head
cleaning, and all cartridges are involved. Some people have found that
they replace one cartridge, and by the time it's done, another is about
ready to be replaced, and so on.

Art
 
No, I have no personal experience with this system or inks. You may
wish to consider looking at the spongeless ink dampers being offered
lately by a few companies.

Art
 
It hurts even to read this crap. if a person is intent on risking
their printer, don't care what you buy cause they won't tell you, and
do not want a pain in the ass, then if your printload is very high you
should take a chance on prefilled carts.
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Taking incomprehensible "advice" from Inkystinky sales representative
Measekite, the resident troll who can't even express himself in basic
English, is infinitely more dangerous than using ink from respected
vendors. Just reading the above makes you laugh hysterically if it
wasn't so pitifully pathetic.

But he was right about one thing: It hurts even to read his crap.

CJones
 
Are U a respectable vendor. :-P
Taking incomprehensible "advice" from Inkystinky sales representative
Measekite, the resident troll who can't even express himself in basic
English, is infinitely more dangerous than using ink from respected
vendors. Just reading the above makes you laugh hysterically if it
wasn't so pitifully pathetic.

But he was right about one thing: It hurts even to read his crap.

CJones
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Duh...Its Tony Da Tiger who is in the printer business. So what is the
ulterior motive in his advice?
 
Burt said:
Inkystinky, aka Mr. Know-nothing-about-aftermarket-inks, tries to give
advice on something he has zero experience with.
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Dis is the gospel from Pastor Burtie Furtie
If it hurts you to read my
posts, Measekite, you are certainly welcome to kill file me! I think that
it is a good idea for inkjet printer owners to know more than "put the paper
in the top and push the print button."
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Yeh shmuck, they need to lean photography for that is what it is all
about for photo printers.
If a problem occurs you may be able
to solve it without paying a repair person
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who like Tony Da Tiger
or buying a new printer. Even if
you are a committed OEM ink user it doesn't hurt to know about potential
problems with ink cartridges.

I was responding to questions about the sponge material in cartridges and
indicating that the Epson carts were more troublesome to refill, in my
opinion, than Canon carts.
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Epson printers are more troublesome than Canon printers. They use more
ink. The way they work is based on spending ink. But they are still a
good printer, just expensive to use.
 
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