"Generic" ink and printer trouble

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My initial involvement with this newsgroup 2 years ago was an attempt to
find which printers were easiest to use with refill ink, and to
determine which ink to use. I settled on Canon printers, due to the ease
of refilling the cartridges, and decided on sensient ink from
alotofthings.com because it was the lower priced of the 2 inks most
often recommended.
Bought a Canon i960 and the alotofthings ink, and a set of refillable
cartridges (which I haven't used yet, the original Canon cartridges are
still working fine) Each has been refilled 7 or 8 times over the last 18
months, I still have 75% of my original 8 oz ink bottles left, and
everything is perfect ... no clogs, no fading problems seen yet, and
photo prints no different than the original Canon ink.
I am getting flawless results at about 50 cents per cartridge refill. I
don't need to see no stinkin' statistics!
 
everyplace you go and speak to anyone at random ask them if they ever go
on to the internet. ask them what a newsgroup is. and then ask them if
they post or read any and if yes ask them if they go on to a printer ng.
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and the answer is, no, they just buy OEM ink like the dumbass sheep they
are.

But many people who go to a newsgroup are asking the question: Is there
a smarter way?

and of course, there is.
 
I would not believe claims like this that contradict known testing
methods and professional reviews.
 
Irwin said:
and the answer is, no, they just buy OEM ink like the dumbass sheep they
are.
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who are successful enough to be able to afford it. And they got that
way because they are able to do enought research and make good
decisions. They want to know what they are buying. And they do not
like inconvenient messy operations.

Now if you like to change your own oil and tune up your own car and be
on a first name basis with the local auto supply store in your area than
you are a candidate for generic ink, printhead clogging, fading and of
course lower quality but you probably cannot tell the difference.
But many people who go to a newsgroup are asking the question: Is there
a smarter way?
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Now for these people that only use a computer to do a job how would they
even know there are newsgroups let alone a hobbyists forum supported by
the relabelers.
and of course, there is
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and that is correct
 
Irwin said:
My initial involvement with this newsgroup 2 years ago was an attempt to
find which printers were easiest to use with refill ink, and to
determine which ink to use. I settled on Canon printers, due to the ease
of refilling the cartridges, and decided on sensient ink from
alotofthings.com because it was the lower priced of the 2 inks most
often recommended.
Bought a Canon i960 and the alotofthings ink, and a set of refillable
cartridges (which I haven't used yet, the original Canon cartridges are
still working fine) Each has been refilled 7 or 8 times over the last 18
months, I still have 75% of my original 8 oz ink bottles left, and
everything is perfect ... no clogs, no fading problems seen yet, and
photo prints no different than the original Canon ink.
I am getting flawless results at about 50 cents per cartridge refill. I
don't need to see no stinkin' statistics!
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I too have had similar results. So have most others which drives
meashershithead, an idiot btw, crazy!
Frank
 
Now if you like to change your own oil and tune up your own car and be
on a first name basis with the local auto supply store in your area than
you are a candidate for generic ink, printhead clogging, fading and of
course lower quality but you probably cannot tell the difference.
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My local autoparts store doesn't know my first name. But I do my own
plugs, , filters, replace wires, I do my own oil, clutch. Brakes I buy
pre-loaded calipers which technicaly cost more than a shop to do just
pads, but paying just a little extra for new calipers each time.
Rotors I get turned by the local machine shop, if I was in a hurry i'd
buy them. It's basicly jack up the car, remove 4 lugs, remove two
bolts and one hose, and replace. 2 hours tops. I "could" spend 1/2
the price and just get pads, but we are talking a wait time of at least
a day, and no real assurance that the jackass knows what they are
doing. There have been many times I delt with mechanics on other
people's cars who tossed out new parts who said they were bad, who said
they just threw them away.

But it's an invalid assumption that doing it your self saves money, or
puts you in some sort of lower class. I lack trust to let someone else
handle my car, and I do a fine job my self if driving the same thing
for over 250,000 miles before buying another one. Not because it
didn't work or anything it was a question of whether I wanted to take
the time to get the valves done, or shell out a few grand for a newer
car with far less miles on it.

To me, doing it my self means reliable transportation with minimal
downtime once every two years for "big" tuneup. I "know" all my old
parts get recycled, I know it's done right.

But I wouldn't put anyone down for going to a mechanic... odds are they
are too lazy to do it them selves or lack the skill, and that's allowed.
 
frank said:
I too have had similar results. So have most others which drives
meashershithead, an idiot btw, crazy!
Frank
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:Here's the truth: we are not driving measher crazy; he's getting
exactly what he wants -- to stir up a commotion. His topic does not
matter; he does not give a damn about ink. He misuses the words
"generic" and "relabeled" incessantly just to annoy and provoke, knowing
that the terms are incorrect. There are virtually no generic inks out
there (it's all made by somebody, whether the seller reveals the source
or not); and "relabeled" ink simply does not exist. He knows this and
gets the reaction he wants here: Measher is a troll.

This is what trolls do -- they get off on setting off reactions, the
more the merrier. And we take the bait every time!

It's just like the neocons constantly trying to work up the American
public with fear. We take the bait.

Richard
 
zakezuke said:
But I wouldn't put anyone down for going to a mechanic... odds are they
are too lazy to do it them selves or lack the skill, and that's allowed.
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There are other reasons, too. I'm probably the best mechanic I know. But
my driveway is tilted; there's no safe place for me to work. I have
other people work on my car because I don't want to kill myself by
having the car fall on me or slip and break a bone.

There's also the problem of needing so many damn specialized tools
nowadays -- it can take a fortune. For example, the "Ford Aerostar
heater core removal tool," $50 at NAPA, which you simply must use
because of the way Ford crammed the pipe ends into a recess behind the
air conditioner tank (that van was my first Ford, and my last Ford ever).

Richard
 
Richard said:
:Here's the truth: we are not driving measher crazy; he's getting
exactly what he wants -- to stir up a commotion. His topic does not
matter; he does not give a damn about ink. He misuses the words
"generic" and "relabeled" incessantly just to annoy and provoke, knowing
that the terms are incorrect. There are virtually no generic inks out
there (it's all made by somebody, whether the seller reveals the source
or not); and "relabeled" ink simply does not exist. He knows this and
gets the reaction he wants here: Measher is a troll.

This is what trolls do -- they get off on setting off reactions, the
more the merrier. And we take the bait every time!

It's just like the neocons constantly trying to work up the American
public with fear. We take the bait.

Richard
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No more troll bait-taking for me - and what a relief it is, too!
Everybody should try it. I don't think Life is supposed to be "safe,"
either.

TJ
 
TJ said:
No more troll bait-taking for me - and what a relief it is, too!
Everybody should try it. I don't think Life is supposed to be "safe,"
either.
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Responding to his posts only encourages him to be more fanatic. He
starts a thread and it eventually has a dozen reply posts. If no one
made the first reply then any threads he starts would die quickly. If
he is totally ignored then he will fade away. My advice is to kill file
him and not reply to him no matter what he posts, or how inflammatory it
may be.
 
Richard said:
There are other reasons, too. I'm probably the best mechanic I know. But
my driveway is tilted; there's no safe place for me to work. I have
other people work on my car because I don't want to kill myself by
having the car fall on me or slip and break a bone.

There's also the problem of needing so many damn specialized tools
nowadays -- it can take a fortune. For example, the "Ford Aerostar
heater core removal tool," $50 at NAPA, which you simply must use
because of the way Ford crammed the pipe ends into a recess behind the
air conditioner tank (that van was my first Ford, and my last Ford ever).
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This is fair comment. I could only imagine something with a slight
tilt.

I'm empetetic on the van issue.... part of my father's estate included
a GMC van and it was 100% impossible for me to tighten the belts. I
can't remember if it was the alternator or waterpump, not that I didn't
look I just couldn't see.

On a heater system... I might decide to buy the tool and sell it on
craigslist, or I might decide to go for a shop. For the belts on the
gmc... that's a shop job.
 
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