FX5900 v Raedon 9600 Pro

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In <v%[email protected]>,
methylenedioxy said:
So they fixed the pixel shading then? amazing Nvidia are, don't change the
core but can fix a severe hardware problem with drivers :s
The 5900 may be quicker, but try running anything with PS 2.0 and you'll
soon see :)
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Well, someone else said upthread that the 5900 and 5700 do have modified
hardware cores compared to the 5800 and 5600, to fix the problem in
combination with the new drivers.
 
Tony Houghton said:
In <v%[email protected]>,


Well, someone else said upthread that the 5900 and 5700 do have modified
hardware cores compared to the 5800 and 5600, to fix the problem in
combination with the new drivers.

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Which is nonsense, the new core (5950 and 5750) were new, the 5900 is not a
new core, this is the core with the problems and hasn't been changed. All
they have done with drivers is cut back quality to DX8 performance.
 
So they fixed the pixel shading then? amazing Nvidia are, don't change the
core but can fix a severe hardware problem with drivers :s
The 5900 may be quicker, but try running anything with PS 2.0 and you'll
soon see :)
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Tweeks to the cores used in the 5700, 5900 and 5950 along with improved
drivers have pretty much closed the gap in PS2.0 performance. Of course
there are still a few specific situations, like Half-Life 2, where the game
engine and NVidia's pixel shader hardware don't get along - but, equally,
there are engines that love NV hardware.


## Doc
 
Tony Houghton said:
In <[email protected]_STRESSfreeserve.co.uk>,


<smug="very">I got one</smug>. The offer was for Boxing Day only. There
were none on the shelf, nor any labels when I got there either. If I
hadn't managed to collar an assistant fairly quickly I would probably
have given up, but he found one in a back room and cross-matched it on
the printed list of one day offers. I was still looking for the catch
until I got home and fired it up - even better, it's a quality piece of
kit with a classy heatsink and quiet fan, so that saves me buying a
Zalman heatpipe - it was such an un-PC World experience!
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Good for you. :) I had considered asking an assistant, but seeing as I
didn't have an advert to refer to - only the information here - I was
not too sure what I should have asked. Guess I should have tried
anyway. I'll never know, now though.
 
Tweeks to the cores used in the 5700, 5900 and 5950 along with improved
drivers have pretty much closed the gap in PS2.0 performance. Of course
there are still a few specific situations, like Half-Life 2, where the game
engine and NVidia's pixel shader hardware don't get along - but, equally,
there are engines that love NV hardware.


## Doc
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BUT Half-Life 2 was delayed so that can be fixed, and its not even out yet..
 
Yes and I would agree, but I was replying within the CONTEXT of the thread
where the OP wanted options of the relative performance of the FX5900 (NOT
THE 5950 !!) to the 9600pro.
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Even the Cheap FX 5900 TX can beat the 9600.
 
In <[email protected]_STRESSfreeserve.co.uk>,


<smug="very">I got one</smug>. The offer was for Boxing Day only. There
were none on the shelf, nor any labels when I got there either. If I
hadn't managed to collar an assistant fairly quickly I would probably
have given up, but he found one in a back room and cross-matched it on
the printed list of one day offers. I was still looking for the catch
until I got home and fired it up - even better, it's a quality piece of
kit with a classy heatsink and quiet fan, so that saves me buying a
Zalman heatpipe - it was such an un-PC World experience!

BTW it's a 5900XT, not a 5900. Judging by even the pre-sale price I
presume the XT means it's cut down a bit (the opposite of ATI's "XT"),
but FWIR here it's still considerably better than any flavour of Radeon
9600.
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The FX5900 XT is almost as fast as the FX 5900 due to low latency rams being
fitted, and it does out perform a 9600.

My Gigabyte one gives 5402, 3Dmark3 340, 2.4cg P4..

What brand was PC World giving away..?
 
Yes, it's just a slightly slower 5900 - 700 vs 800mhz memory I believe.
Very little difference.
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But is fitted with faster latency rams..

My 3Dmark3 340 is 5402, with no tweaking at all.

P4c 2.4g, Nvidia 53.03 drivers.
 
In <[email protected]>,
London Midland & Scotland said:
The FX5900 XT is almost as fast as the FX 5900 due to low latency rams being
fitted, and it does out perform a 9600.

My Gigabyte one gives 5402, 3Dmark3 340, 2.4cg P4..

What brand was PC World giving away..?
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Not quite giving. It's a Leadtek Winfast A350.
 
In <[email protected]>,


First I've heard of any Metal Box. What exactly do you mean?
Specifically it's the A350 XT TDH, looks identical to this, box, s/w
bundle and all:
http://www.leadtek.nl/nts/uk/products/gc/content.php?subject=WinFast A350 XT TDH
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This one you show has No Ram cooling at all.


Here is the New Metal box one, LX model same speed.

http://www.leadtek.com.tw/3d_graphic/winfast_a350_tdh_lx_1.shtml


This is what I bought, has full Ram cooling

http://tw.giga-byte.com/VGA/Products/Products_GV-N59X128D.htm
 
In <[email protected]>,
London Midland & Scotland said:
This one you show has No Ram cooling at all.


Here is the New Metal box one, LX model same speed.

http://www.leadtek.com.tw/3d_graphic/winfast_a350_tdh_lx_1.shtml


This is what I bought, has full Ram cooling

http://tw.giga-byte.com/VGA/Products/Products_GV-N59X128D.htm
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It suits me better to have the one I've got TBH, because I intend to
replace the heatsink with a Zalman ZM80C heatpipe, which doesn't include
RAM cooling AFAICT. With some cards that include RAM cooling, eg the
last two GeForces I've had, and the Tyan Tachyon Radeon 9600 Pro, the
heatsinks have large exposed surface areas which means you can just use
a bigger, silent fan, but the newer designs with enclosed fans such as
the ones above might make that impossible.
 
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