Freeware Logo Contest: Vote (please...)

  • Thread starter Thread starter Vegard Krog Petersen
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Vegard said:
Susan said:
Nicolaas said:
With respect, Susan, I think you may have hold of the wrong end of the
stick here. I believe Mr Petersen was intending to elicit a
consensus on a FREEWARE
logo, not an ACF logo (i.e., a logo that could be used at the
copyrightholder's discretion to denote "genuine" Freeware in the
commonly-accepted sense [i.e., as would reasonably be understood by a
reasonable person {i.e., fanatics notwithstanding}]) without having
necessarily to gain the "approval" of ACF for its use (and who would be
the approving authority, and why? - it would be idle - nay, stupid - to
suggest that every use should be voted on and its use in that way
would be impossible to police.)
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http://home.no/buffy2/ displays 17 freeware images. 16 of them are
FREEWARE logos (they are images without words).
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oops. . . they *don't* say alt.comp.freeware - some do say freeware,
spyware etc. etc.
Very interesting chain of thought! It is the ACF who votes / select the
"freeware logo". Is it then the ACF logo also? And since it is selected
by ACF, can it then use the words alt.comp.freeware?

And to complicate matter (or make it easier) - I'm gonna suggest that we
don't invent the wheel again and as the criteria for use re-use what the
group earlier has decided is acceptable "freeware" - ie programs
electable for the pricelessware and it's wares glossary...

Acceptable: Freeware, and the non-intrusive versions of Liteware,
Giftware, Charityware, Registerware, Requestware. Ain't this what we
usually accepts ???

Websites must clearly distinguish between freeware and shareware if they
are gonna use the logo. Freeware on a specific page for instance.

Example: Snapfiles top 100 freeware could use the logo...
http://www.snapfiles.com/topdownloads/fw_top100-1.html

And I still believe R. Sandee must keep the copyright to the image.
We can ask for people to link to a freeware logo site (or page at
pricelessware). That way we can use counters/trackers to see which sites
use it. But we have no chance whatsoever to fully control who uses the
image. If we find inproper use of it, we can ask them to remove it.
With a copyright for the image to an individual (not to a concept as
"loose" as the acf group) perhaps we can have some muscle behind our
demand.

I'm hoping both pricelessware sites will use the image and help spread
"the word".

Regards from vegard
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I disagree with most of what you said. :) There is a fairly wide range
of opinion on the which wares are on-topic for discussion in ACF. IMO we
should not attempt to tell others what they may or may not show on their
web sites to get an ACF "seal of approval". I don't think we should
become policemen. . .

IMO we're talking apples and oranges. The "vote" is about a logo for
FREEWARE - like Nicholaas I assumed such a logo could/would be used by
freeware sites as *they* saw fit. I object to having the words
"alt.comp.freeware" on such a logo.

I favor having a logo with alt.comp.freeware on it *if* it is linked to
the ACF ware glossary:

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/WareGlossary.php

and I favor letting other sites use that logo.

IMO this would be a helpful to many - it might even lead to more
uniformity in ware descriptions. . . someday. . .

Susan
 
Vegard said:
Please take some time to study the contestants, make up your mind and
vote - they are are all listed here:

http://home.no/buffy2/

Voting process is the standard pricelessware one:
Respond to this thread and let only the line/entry for the image you
vote for be left:

< "Number - image name - artist"

1. Freeware Dollar Globe - by Mike Carson
2. The Diskette Gift - by Clive Savage
3. The CD Gift - by CHarneyCHRIS
4. The No Coin Sign - by Crispy Sea
5. Animated freeware image 1 - by SOS
6. The No Dollar Sign - by Clive Savage
7. Wrapped Gift 1 - by CHarneyCHRIS
8. The Freeware Faerie - <artist unknown>
9. 234x60 freeware banner - by Ronald Sandee
10. Animated freeware image 2 - by SOS
11. Wrapped Gift 2 - by CHarneyCHRIS
12. Butterfly Freeware Coll. - by Charles Angelich
13. The acf F.A.Q. logo 00/03 - by La Bete (?)
14. Earth in hands - <artist unknown>
15. Wings of freeware - by Ronald Sandee
16. No Currency Freeware - by Mark Carson
17. Globe on disks - <artist unknown>


http://home.no/buffy2/

*Voting closes Sunday 19. December 2004*

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Big thanks to all who has contrubuted with their time, effort and
artistics skills to make all these images. Without you this could not
have happened. :-)

Of course I hope so many people as possible will vote, or else the
winning image will have little credibility. Therefor I hereby challenge
all the 100+ "members" of a.c.f. listed in the "acf_where" thread to
vote! ;-)

Note: I'm sorry - I forgot about making the page look good for all of
you with a 800x600 screen resolution this time! :-(

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What is this about?
Just trying to get the alt.comp.freeware (acf) group to agree on a
freeware symbol or logo. My intention was that it could be used on
freeware sites and in freeware programs. A "universally" recognizable
logo or symbol for freeware.
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i vote for # 2
 
Vegard said:
Please take some time to study the contestants, make up your mind and
vote - they are are all listed here:

http://home.no/buffy2/

Voting process is the standard pricelessware one:
Respond to this thread and let only the line/entry for the image you
vote for be left:

< "Number - image name - artist"

1. Freeware Dollar Globe - by Mike Carson
2. The Diskette Gift - by Clive Savage
3. The CD Gift - by CHarneyCHRIS
4. The No Coin Sign - by Crispy Sea
5. Animated freeware image 1 - by SOS
6. The No Dollar Sign - by Clive Savage
7. Wrapped Gift 1 - by CHarneyCHRIS
8. The Freeware Faerie - <artist unknown>
9. 234x60 freeware banner - by Ronald Sandee
10. Animated freeware image 2 - by SOS
11. Wrapped Gift 2 - by CHarneyCHRIS
12. Butterfly Freeware Coll. - by Charles Angelich
13. The acf F.A.Q. logo 00/03 - by La Bete (?)
14. Earth in hands - <artist unknown>
15. Wings of freeware - by Ronald Sandee
16. No Currency Freeware - by Mark Carson
17. Globe on disks - <artist unknown>


http://home.no/buffy2/

*Voting closes Sunday 19. December 2004*

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Big thanks to all who has contrubuted with their time, effort and
artistics skills to make all these images. Without you this could not
have happened. :-)

Of course I hope so many people as possible will vote, or else the
winning image will have little credibility. Therefor I hereby challenge
all the 100+ "members" of a.c.f. listed in the "acf_where" thread to
vote! ;-)

Note: I'm sorry - I forgot about making the page look good for all of
you with a 800x600 screen resolution this time! :-(

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What is this about?
Just trying to get the alt.comp.freeware (acf) group to agree on a
freeware symbol or logo. My intention was that it could be used on
freeware sites and in freeware programs. A "universally" recognizable
logo or symbol for freeware.
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I like this one the best


Freeeware Faerie

The Freeware Faerie
used by
The Freeware World Team

Origin/artist unknown
 
Susan said:
and a better symbol for software is?

Susan
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Well, I'd suggested something earlier that could be incorporated into
several of the suggested designs. A spiral/circle of binary that
translates into 'freeware'!
There are a lot of media to transport software, and none of them in my
opinion indicate software. i.e. it could just as well mean 'data'.
Regards
Lee in Toronto
 
Well, I'd suggested something earlier that could be incorporated into
several of the suggested designs. A spiral/circle of binary that
translates into 'freeware'!
There are a lot of media to transport software, and none of them in my
opinion indicate software. i.e. it could just as well mean 'data'.
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Hi Lee,

I think your suggestion of a "spiral/circle of binary" is a good one. I
disagree with your criticism of a diskette as a symbol. Symbols are
often open to more than one interpretation and may symbolize more than
one thing (Ontario's maple leaf is also a symbol for maple syrup). IMO
the diskette would be understood as a symbol for a computer program -
perhaps more readily understood than a "spiral/circle of binary".

Susan
 
Susan said:
I wish you hadn't said that. ;)
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True though... easy to imagine it on the back of some leathers.
and a better symbol for software is?
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Dunno; I think it is an unworkable idea anyway, if only because it is
unpoliceable and would get hijacked by all the crippleware apps.
 
jo said:
Susan Bugher wrote:

Dunno; I think it is an unworkable idea anyway, if only because it is
unpoliceable and would get hijacked by all the crippleware apps.
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I think it's a good idea. I agree with "unpoliceable" - disagree with
your other comments.

Susan
 
biscayneSix said:
No offense, but I think they all look like shit.
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You are of course allowed to think that....
Do you hav any other image you would like to suggest?
 
Hmm.. that is a good question. I am not sure how I would represent free
software as an image. Software is hard to represent this way.. Look at
the names and logos.. Red Hat? Yellowdog? Apple?! WTF? hahah

I will think about it, and if I come up with something I will post it.
Vegard said:
You are of course allowed to think that....
Do you hav any other image you would like to suggest?

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