Free Defragger

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news.microsoft.com said:
Amen. I couldn't care less about blocks moving around. What I want to get
was some idea how bad the HD is fragmented and about how long it would
take to run. That was farly easy looking at "the blocks," or in XP, the
lines. The Vista defragger gives no idea how bad the drive is or if it
even needs defragging. I can run it 10 minutes a defrag and it'll run
another 30 mins supposedly defragging the recently defragged drive. What
crap!
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<sigh> That is why the Vista defragger operates in the background! It
doesn't MATTER how long it takes! Jeeeeze!
 
Gordon said:
<sigh> That is why the Vista defragger operates in the background! It
doesn't MATTER how long it takes! Jeeeeze!
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So you're saying I can keep using the PC as it defrags? How are people
supposed to know this? Or are you saying it's always running in the
background even when no defragging is needed?
 
As for the Vista defragger.... how is it running in the background when I
have turn it on manually? How do I even know the disk needs
defragmenting?
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You shouldn't have to "turn it on manually" and you don't have to worry
whether or not the disk needs defragging - Vista will start the defrag
service automatically when the disk reaches a certain fragmentation.

That's the WHOLE point of the Vista defragger - you don't have to think
about it!

And BTW, don't even start to compare NTFS fragmentation with FAT32 - NTFS is
a far far better file manager than FAT32 ever was and thus needs defragging
far far less frequently...
 
Rick Rogers said:
Hi,

Just to add what others have said, defrag in Vista is an ongoing process.
It doesn't end, but rather constantly works to keep the system in top
shape. It runs as a low priority task so as not to interfere with the
system usage. If you use a third party program and let it run complete,
then first you aren't using the system for what you bought it for, and
second the minute you begin using it you will be re-fragmenting the system
until you decide to manually run it again.
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So what do you recommend? I can't help wonder.....If it's always running in
the background why does it run as long as 30 minutes when manually run?
 
Larry said:
This one is a good one. Optimizes as well as defrags.
http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/

Larry


Can someone recommend a good FREE defragger that shows the process as it
did
in W98 and XP? I can't stand having no damn idea how long it will take
when
I have other things to do. Why the hell was it changed so no one has a
clue
how fragmented the drive is or how long it will take?
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Being that it uses the Windows Defrag, how does it optimize and defrag
better ?
Oh....you mean the hop around colored squares that bounce around
indiscriminately ?
Fractals ?
Random number generator ?
Watch a defrag screen, nonsensical roving blocks were blown off years ago.
 
I recommend that it be left alone to do the job it was designed for. There
should be no need to run it manually or to set aside specific time to defrag
a system. If not modified by the user, the service will run as needed during
downtime to do what it was designed for.

I look at it this way: Why would an office manager want to hire a
maintenance person to take out the trash in the middle of the day when
everyone's working? Wouldn't it be better to have someone come in while the
office wasn't in use to take care of the job without interfering with day to
day operations?

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
 
I recommend that it be left alone to do the job it was designed for. There
should be no need to run it manually or to set aside specific time to defrag
a system. If not modified by the user, the service will run as needed during
downtime to do what it was designed for.

I look at it this way: Why would an office manager want to hire a
maintenance person to take out the trash in the middle of the day when
everyone's working? Wouldn't it be better to have someone come in while the
office wasn't in use to take care of the job without interfering with day to
day operations?
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I look at it this way: If you had an office worker that was supposed
to be taking out the trash, but whenever you checked to see if the
trash can's were empty you found them full and getting in the way of
other employees doing their job; wouldn't you be concerned that the
cleaning worker wasn't really doing their job properly?

You might not want to watch them work, but you'd at least want to be
confident that the job was really being done and not impacting other
employees through negligence.
 
+Bob+ said:
I look at it this way: If you had an office worker that was supposed
to be taking out the trash, but whenever you checked to see if the
trash can's were empty you found them full and getting in the way of
other employees doing their job; wouldn't you be concerned that the
cleaning worker wasn't really doing their job properly?

You might not want to watch them work, but you'd at least want to be
confident that the job was really being done and not impacting other
employees through negligence.
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Now you're getting desperate.
Why are you even using Vista since it's apparent that you hate it?
 
Were that the case, I'd have the cleaner come through during lunch.
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Well, I just call the cleaner when I'm going to be out of the office.

The trouble with the Vista cleaner is that he won't estimate how long
it will take him to do the job, or let me know how far along he is in
it... unlike they guy I used to hire under XP :-) So, I've gone with
another cleaning company.
 
Bill Sharpe said:
I like Auslogics, too, but who would want to watch the screen display
showing progress? Windows multitasks and you can read your e-mail while
the program is defragging your disk.

Bill
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If it defrags automatically where is there a choice to run it at all? And
how can we know how often to run it if we can't know how defragged it gets
by the end of the week? And if it runs and keep the disk defragged... why
the hell does it run for 30 minutes or more when I run it manually? Why
change what isn't broken just to sell a new OS?
 
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