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Can someone recommend a good FREE defragger that shows the process as it did
in W98 and XP? I can't stand having no damn idea how long it will take when
I have other things to do. Why the hell was it changed so no one has a clue
how fragmented the drive is or how long it will take?
 
news.microsoft.com said:
Can someone recommend a good FREE defragger that shows the process as it
did in W98 and XP? I can't stand having no damn idea how long it will
take when I have other things to do. Why the hell was it changed so no
one has a clue how fragmented the drive is or how long it will take?
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Try this one...

http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag

Robert Maskill - G4PYR - Peterborough Cambridgeshire
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This one is a good one. Optimizes as well as defrags.
http://www.kessels.com/Jkdefrag/

Larry


Can someone recommend a good FREE defragger that shows the process as it did
in W98 and XP? I can't stand having no damn idea how long it will take when
I have other things to do. Why the hell was it changed so no one has a clue
how fragmented the drive is or how long it will take?
 
The whole idea behind the Vista defragmenter is it works in the background
and you ***don't*** have to be concerned about it. And I see no reason why
you can not keep working with your customers. The Vista defragmenter will
not prevent you from doing so.

Years ago there was NO defragmenter in Windows and people did not have this
preoccupation with watching blocks move around.

You will get no better performance out of your computer by using a 3rd party
defragmenter than you will by allowing the Vista defragmenter to do its
thing!

Chill a bit and just use your computer.
 
Richard said:
The whole idea behind the Vista defragmenter is it works in the
background and you ***don't*** have to be concerned about it. And I see
no reason why you can not keep working with your customers. The Vista
defragmenter will not prevent you from doing so.

Years ago there was NO defragmenter in Windows and people did not have
this preoccupation with watching blocks move around.

You will get no better performance out of your computer by using a 3rd
party defragmenter than you will by allowing the Vista defragmenter to
do its thing!

Chill a bit and just use your computer.
Click to expand...

I can't say I disagree with the above, I do my main business machine
once a month overnight and I must admit I rarely can tell much if any
difference in the perceived performance before and after
 
Hi,

Just to add what others have said, defrag in Vista is an ongoing process. It
doesn't end, but rather constantly works to keep the system in top shape. It
runs as a low priority task so as not to interfere with the system usage. If
you use a third party program and let it run complete, then first you aren't
using the system for what you bought it for, and second the minute you begin
using it you will be re-fragmenting the system until you decide to manually
run it again.

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You're so busy using your computer that you have time to watch the nice
visual feedback while it defrags for 5-10 minutes. I guess you aren't
**really** using your computer when it is on!

Which is it - you have time to watch - and therefore are not really using
your computer OR you are using your computer and you allow the Vista defrag
to do its thing whenever?
 
The Vista disk defragmenter works in the background to save you the trouble
of watching it defragment. However, if you really want to see what is going
on Auslogic Disk Defrag is probably one of the better disk defragmenters.

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news.microsoft.com said:
Can someone recommend a good FREE defragger that shows the process as it
did in W98 and XP? I can't stand having no damn idea how long it will
take when I have other things to do. Why the hell was it changed so no
one has a clue how fragmented the drive is or how long it will take?
Click to expand...

Google Auslogics.

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- zachd [MSFT]

DRM and unintended consequences:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=435&tag=nl.e101
 
The whole idea behind the Vista defragmenter is it works in the background
and you ***don't*** have to be concerned about it. And I see no reason why
you can not keep working with your customers. The Vista defragmenter will
not prevent you from doing so.
Click to expand...

Except it doesn't work all that well. There are articles written on
the subject. FWIW, they've been telling us we didn't have to defrag
since NT/NTFS and it hasn't been true.
Years ago there was NO defragmenter in Windows and people did not have this
preoccupation with watching blocks move around.
Click to expand...

Actually, we used one from Norton. As for seeing little blocks moving
around... I don't really need that, but some sort of status before
starting and a reasonable display of progress is worthwhile. Vista
give you the dumbed down display instead "this will take from several
minutes to several hours". Nice.
You will get no better performance out of your computer by using a 3rd party
defragmenter than you will by allowing the Vista defragmenter to do its
thing!
Click to expand...

Well, do some research on that point. Or run the manual defrag in
Vista... let me know how long it has to run to defrag a drive that
should not need defragging if the background process is really
working.
Chill a bit and just use your computer.
Click to expand...

Some of us like to squeeze what performance we can out of this bloated
OS.
 
So, now you say you are defragging with a 3rd party tool "while" you are
working with your customers. Dang - you must have found one that uses less
resources than the one in Vista, which only works when the computer is idle.
And you say that the one in Vista prevents you from working with your
customers.

Care to try again! Your house of cards is collapsing around your ears. (-:
 
Robert said:
I can't say I disagree with the above, I do my main business machine
once a month overnight and I must admit I rarely can tell much if any
difference in the perceived performance before and after
Click to expand...


No, you won't see much of a difference if you do regularly and
frequently defrag the hard drive, because you're maintaining the file
system in optimum condition. This is a good thing. If you want to
actually see a noticeable difference, wait several months between defrags.


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I have no problem with the defragmenter working when I am on the computer.
That's the whole point, there is NOT much time my pc is idle for the stupid
vista service to kick in.. dah.... I actually use the darn thing!

Now you may leave it on all night and contribute to global warming just
because you are lazy to press a button, or you may just play solitair all
day, but I don't!

But I do have a problem when I don't know when the heck it will finish!
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There's a new defragger and I'm using it on my XP notebook. FREE
"Diskeeper" type called Smart Defrag. Don't know if it will do the
nasty that Diskeeper protects against, but it's worth a try. Works in
the background OR manually, will "optimize" file placement AND if you
like to watch, you can see all those pretty little squares and also
watch the progress bar.

http://www.download.com/Smart-Defrag/3000-2094_4-10759533.html
 
Non said:
I have no problem with the defragmenter working when I am on the computer.
That's the whole point, there is NOT much time my pc is idle for the
stupid vista service to kick in.. dah.... I actually use the darn thing!

Now you may leave it on all night and contribute to global warming just
because you are lazy to press a button, or you may just play solitair
all day, but I don't!

But I do have a problem when I don't know when the heck it will finish!

In vista all you have is a thing that goes round and round and round...
no real visual indication of progress.

so stupid... vista is a fuked up operating system, they took XP
(actually win2003 server) and
made a disaster out of it!

thank god there are third party defrags that work great and are free



You are MVP of desktop experience?????!!! LOL!!! and you like vista? MAN
YOU ARE BLIND OR DUMB OR BOTH!!!!
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You really are stupid aren't you!...LOL!
 
+Bob+ said:
Except it doesn't work all that well. There are articles written on
the subject. FWIW, they've been telling us we didn't have to defrag
since NT/NTFS and it hasn't been true.


Actually, we used one from Norton. As for seeing little blocks moving
around... I don't really need that, but some sort of status before
starting and a reasonable display of progress is worthwhile. Vista
give you the dumbed down display instead "this will take from several
minutes to several hours". Nice.


Well, do some research on that point. Or run the manual defrag in
Vista... let me know how long it has to run to defrag a drive that
should not need defragging if the background process is really
working.


Some of us like to squeeze what performance we can out of this bloated
OS.
Click to expand...

Amen. I couldn't care less about blocks moving around. What I want to get
was some idea how bad the HD is fragmented and about how long it would take
to run. That was farly easy looking at "the blocks," or in XP, the lines.
The Vista defragger gives no idea how bad the drive is or if it even needs
defragging. I can run it 10 minutes a defrag and it'll run another 30 mins
supposedly defragging the recently defragged drive. What crap!
 
Non Sequitur! said:
so stupid... vista is a fuked up operating system, they took XP (actually
win2003 server) and
made a disaster out of it!
Click to expand...

You got that right. And I'm stuck with this Vista machine for at least 4
years. Many of us will be forced to deal with Vista until our Co. buys new
PCs. Home users also. Not everyone can replace a PC in weeks or months of
buying one.
 
Robert Maskill said:
I can't say I disagree with the above, I do my main business machine once
a month overnight and I must admit I rarely can tell much if any
difference in the perceived performance before and after
Click to expand...

If it's working in the background all the time... why do you run it
overnight if it's already running? I don't understand?!?!?!
 
The Vista defragger gives no idea how bad the drive is or if it even needs
defragging. I can run it *AND* 10 minutes later run another defrag and
it'll run another 30 mins supposedly defragging the recently defragged
drive it just finished doing. What crap!
Click to expand...
 
Richard Urban said:
You're so busy using your computer that you have time to watch the nice
visual feedback while it defrags for 5-10 minutes. I guess you aren't
**really** using your computer when it is on!
Click to expand...

I didn't see anyone claim to sit and watch the "nice
visual feedback"... did you?
Which is it - you have time to watch - and therefore are not really using
your computer OR you are using your computer and you allow the Vista
defrag to do its thing whenever?
Click to expand...

Are you hallucinating? I saw no posters claiming they have time to sit and
watch your so called "nice
visual feedback"... did you? Why did MS "fix" what wasn't broken?
 
John Barnett MVP said:
The Vista disk defragmenter works in the background to save you the
trouble of watching it defragment. However, if you really want to see what
is going on Auslogic Disk Defrag is probably one of the better disk
defragmenters.
Click to expand...

Ok, I downloaded this one but it still nothing like what was on W98 or WXP.
As for the Vista defragger.... how is it running in the background when I
have turn it on manually? How do I even know the disk needs defragmenting?
 
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