Format C [HD] and D&E gone missing

[Jan]

Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB & 2
partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought??? Have reinstalled OS
Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:
So I only have C:,D:,E: and 40 GB of missing data.
ANy input would be greatly appreciated. Help!!!!. Did backup most of my
stuff but not all of it.
TIA
Jan

 

[Rod Speed]

Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB
& 2 partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought???
Have reinstalled OS Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:

Does the 40GB drive show up in the drive list on the black
bios screen at boot time ? Likely not from the detail below.

Its likely something pretty basic like you havent got a power
lead plugged into it or its not jumpered correctly etc.

 

[Jan]

Hi Rod,
It is showing up on splash screen. Did not change any jumpers. Was just
working on C: drive. C: was primary master, d: was slave partitioned
into 2. Didn't think formatting C: would affect the other Hardrive??/
Tia
Jan

Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB
& 2 partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought???
Have reinstalled OS Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:

Does the 40GB drive show up in the drive list on the black
bios screen at boot time ? Likely not from the detail below.

Its likely something pretty basic like you havent got a power
lead plugged into it or its not jumpered correctly etc.

So I only have C:,D:,E: and 40 GB of missing data.
ANy input would be greatly appreciated. Help!!!!.
Did backup most of my stuff but not all of it.

 

[Jan]

Some more info.
TIA
JAn

Fdisk is showing- maybe too much info here but thought that is better
than not enough.

Disk Drive Usage
1 19540 100%
C: 19540
__________________________________________________
Disk Mbytes Free Usage
2 39080 31055 21%

______________________________________________________
More info on Disk 2
Partition Status Type Mbytes Usage
1 A Non-Dos 8025 21%

Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB
& 2 partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought???
Have reinstalled OS Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:

Does the 40GB drive show up in the drive list on the black
bios screen at boot time ? Likely not from the detail below.

Its likely something pretty basic like you havent got a power
lead plugged into it or its not jumpered correctly etc.

So I only have C:,D:,E: and 40 GB of missing data.
ANy input would be greatly appreciated. Help!!!!.
Did backup most of my stuff but not all of it.

 

[Rod Speed]

It is showing up on splash screen.

Thats bad news.

Did not change any jumpers. Was just working on C: drive.
C: was primary master, d: was slave partitioned into 2.
Didn't think formatting C: would affect the other Hardrive??/

It shouldnt have done.

But it looks rather like you somehow managed to wipe
the MBR on the 40GB drive and so its no longer seen
at the OS level because its no longer partitioned.

It is possible to rebuild the MBR and the authors of a couple of
those utes do read here, so hopefully one of those will comment.

Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB
& 2 partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought???
Have reinstalled OS Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:

Does the 40GB drive show up in the drive list on the black
bios screen at boot time ? Likely not from the detail below.

Its likely something pretty basic like you havent got a power
lead plugged into it or its not jumpered correctly etc.

So I only have C:,D:,E: and 40 GB of missing data.
ANy input would be greatly appreciated. Help!!!!.
Did backup most of my stuff but not all of it.

 

[Rod Speed]

Some more info.
TIA
JAn

Fdisk is showing- maybe too much info here but thought that is better
than not enough.

Disk Drive Usage
1 19540 100%
C: 19540
__________________________________________________
Disk Mbytes Free Usage
2 39080 31055 21%

______________________________________________________
More info on Disk 2
Partition Status Type Mbytes Usage
1 A Non-Dos 8025 21%

Yeah, thats the problem, its somehow got the MBR
mangled and its now showing as a single non dos partition.

The MBR can be repaired, hopefully Svend or
Joep who have utes to repair it will comment.

Dont try repairing it yourself until they comment,
too much risk of buggering it up irrepairably.

Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB
& 2 partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought???
Have reinstalled OS Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:

Does the 40GB drive show up in the drive list on the black
bios screen at boot time ? Likely not from the detail below.

Its likely something pretty basic like you havent got a power
lead plugged into it or its not jumpered correctly etc.

So I only have C:,D:,E: and 40 GB of missing data.
ANy input would be greatly appreciated. Help!!!!.
Did backup most of my stuff but not all of it.

 

[Jan]

Thanks Rod,
Well what did I do this time??
Does that mean the data is gone too or maybe it can be recovered. Or
will I just be able to use the drive again - EMPTY.
I guess I should disconnected this other HD before formating C:
With the 40Gb being the slave do some of the fdisk commands
from C:go astray? Or was it me?
Tried to be so careful! Thanks will check back later - Hoping for a bit
of good news.
TIA
Jan

Some more info.
TIA
JAn

Fdisk is showing- maybe too much info here but thought that is better
than not enough.

Disk Drive Usage
1 19540 100%
C: 19540
__________________________________________________
Disk Mbytes Free Usage
2 39080 31055 21%

______________________________________________________
More info on Disk 2
Partition Status Type Mbytes Usage
1 A Non-Dos 8025 21%

Yeah, thats the problem, its somehow got the MBR
mangled and its now showing as a single non dos partition.

The MBR can be repaired, hopefully Svend or
Joep who have utes to repair it will comment.

Dont try repairing it yourself until they comment,
too much risk of buggering it up irrepairably.

Rod Speed wrote:

Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB
& 2 partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought???
Have reinstalled OS Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:


Does the 40GB drive show up in the drive list on the black
bios screen at boot time ? Likely not from the detail below.

Its likely something pretty basic like you havent got a power
lead plugged into it or its not jumpered correctly etc.



So I only have C:,D:,E: and 40 GB of missing data.
ANy input would be greatly appreciated. Help!!!!.
Did backup most of my stuff but not all of it.

 

[Svend Olaf Mikkelsen]

Thanks Rod,
Well what did I do this time??
Does that mean the data is gone too or maybe it can be recovered. Or
will I just be able to use the drive again - EMPTY.
I guess I should disconnected this other HD before formating C:
With the 40Gb being the slave do some of the fdisk commands
from C:go astray? Or was it me?
Tried to be so careful! Thanks will check back later - Hoping for a bit
of good news.
TIA
Jan

To provide more information, you can download Findpart at

http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/utilities.htm

do:

findpart all fp.txt

and insert (not attach) the output here.

 

[Svend Olaf Mikkelsen]

Svend,
Unsure what is wrong.
I downloaded program. Unzipped and tried to run. But I just get a flash
of a DOS screen and it disappears very quickly. It looks like it [the
exe file] is the same as the readme file.
Help Please
Thank you very much
Jan

Download

http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/fp.zip

Put fp.bat in the same directory as findpart.exe, and double click
fp.bat. Then you get the file fp.txt.

 

[Jan]

OK I hope this is it. Thank You Svend!!
Jan
Findpart, version 4.37 - for Windows 95/98/ME/NT/2000/XP.
Copyright Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, 2003.

Searches for partitions type 01, 04, 06, 07, 0B, 0C, 0E, 82, 83,
plus Fdisk F6 and Lilo sectors. Information based on bootsectors
is marked B. If the disk is larger than supported by BIOS, the
supported part of the disk is examined. Disks are numbered from 1.

OS: Windows 4.90 All

Disk: 1 Cylinders: 2491 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 19540

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 0C 63 40017852 19539 0 1 1 2490 254 63 B OK
Fdisk F6 sector 1765 0 1
Fdisk F6 sector 1765 1 1
1851 1 0B 63 2056257 1004 1851 1 1 1978 254 63 R0 OK
1851 2 05 11309760 2056320 1004 1979 0 1 2106 254 63 1275 OK
0 - 0B 29736378 2056257 1004 1851 1 1 1978 254 63 B OK
Fdisk F6 sector 1852 0 1
Fdisk F6 sector 1852 1 1
Fdisk F6 sector 2490 0 1
Fdisk F6 sector 2490 1 1

-----FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YYMMDD DataMB
0 1 33 9766 16 2 9766 0 0 0 000717 1946
1587 1 33 Second FAT not found.
1851 1 33 2007 4 2 2007 0 0 0 001104 0

Partitions according to partition tables on first harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*0C 63 40017852 19539 0 1 1 2490 254 63 OK OK

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 4982 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 39080

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 - 0C 63 36065862 17610 0 1 1 2244 254 63 B OK
261 - 07 63 30732282 15005 261 1 1 2173 254 63 BU OK
2245 1 0B 63 43969842 21469 2245 1 1 4981 254 63 R0 OK
0 - 0B 36065988 43969842 21469 2245 1 1 4981 254 63 B OK
0 - 07 4192965 75842865 37032 261 0 1 4981 254 63 BU OK

-----FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YYMMDD DataMB
0 1 33 8801 16* 2 8801 0 0 0 020205 11302
2245 1 33 10730 16* 2 10730 0 0 0 021019 3172

Partitions according to partition tables on second harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*55 9 16434486 8024 0 0 10 1022 254 63 OK

EZ adjusted:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*0C 63 36065862 17610 0 1 1 2244 254 63 OK OK
0 2 0F 36065925 43969905 21469 2245 0 1 4981 254 63 OK

2245 1 0B 63 43969842 21469 2245 1 1 4981 254 63 R0 OK

Svend,
Unsure what is wrong.
I downloaded program. Unzipped and tried to run. But I just get a flash
of a DOS screen and it disappears very quickly. It looks like it [the
exe file] is the same as the readme file.
Help Please
Thank you very much
Jan

Download

http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/fp.zip

Put fp.bat in the same directory as findpart.exe, and double click
fp.bat. Then you get the file fp.txt.

 

[Rod Speed]

Thanks Rod,
Well what did I do this time??

Hard to say. Its possible to kill an MBR by putting
the ribbon cable on backwards temporarily.

Its also possible to bugger it up by playing
around with the drive type entry for that drive.

Does that mean the data is gone too or maybe it can be recovered.

Almost certainly recoverable.

Or will I just be able to use the drive again - EMPTY.

You can certainly do that, but you should be able to get the data back.

I guess I should disconnected this other HD before formating C:

Yeah, that is safer.

With the 40Gb being the slave do some of the fdisk
commands from C:go astray? Or was it me?

Almost certainly something you did.

Tried to be so careful! Thanks will check back later -
Hoping for a bit of good news.

Yeah, it should be feasible to get the data back with a bit of care.

Some more info.
TIA
JAn

Fdisk is showing- maybe too much info here but thought that is better
than not enough.

Disk Drive Usage
1 19540 100%
C: 19540
__________________________________________________
Disk Mbytes Free Usage
2 39080 31055 21%

______________________________________________________
More info on Disk 2
Partition Status Type Mbytes Usage
1 A Non-Dos 8025 21%

Yeah, thats the problem, its somehow got the MBR
mangled and its now showing as a single non dos partition.

The MBR can be repaired, hopefully Svend or
Joep who have utes to repair it will comment.

Dont try repairing it yourself until they comment,
too much risk of buggering it up irrepairably.

Rod Speed wrote:





Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB
& 2 partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought???
Have reinstalled OS Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:


Does the 40GB drive show up in the drive list on the black
bios screen at boot time ? Likely not from the detail below.

Its likely something pretty basic like you havent got a power
lead plugged into it or its not jumpered correctly etc.



So I only have C:,D:,E: and 40 GB of missing data.
ANy input would be greatly appreciated. Help!!!!.
Did backup most of my stuff but not all of it.

 

[Jan]

Its funny [not really] I did try to unplug the other drive but the power
plug was totally stuck. So I took off the ribbon cable instead. Then PC
wouldn't boot so plugged it back in, correctly. Maybe that was a bad
thing to do but I think it was OK???????
Jan

Thanks Rod,
Well what did I do this time??

Hard to say. Its possible to kill an MBR by putting
the ribbon cable on backwards temporarily.

Its also possible to bugger it up by playing
around with the drive type entry for that drive.

Does that mean the data is gone too or maybe it can be recovered.

Almost certainly recoverable.

Or will I just be able to use the drive again - EMPTY.

You can certainly do that, but you should be able to get the data back.

I guess I should disconnected this other HD before formating C:

Yeah, that is safer.

With the 40Gb being the slave do some of the fdisk
commands from C:go astray? Or was it me?

Almost certainly something you did.

Tried to be so careful! Thanks will check back later -
Hoping for a bit of good news.

Yeah, it should be feasible to get the data back with a bit of care.

Rod Speed wrote:

Some more info.
TIA
JAn

Fdisk is showing- maybe too much info here but thought that is better
than not enough.

Disk Drive Usage
1 19540 100%
C: 19540
__________________________________________________
Disk Mbytes Free Usage
2 39080 31055 21%

______________________________________________________
More info on Disk 2
Partition Status Type Mbytes Usage
1 A Non-Dos 8025 21%


Yeah, thats the problem, its somehow got the MBR
mangled and its now showing as a single non dos partition.

The MBR can be repaired, hopefully Svend or
Joep who have utes to repair it will comment.

Dont try repairing it yourself until they comment,
too much risk of buggering it up irrepairably.




Rod Speed wrote:







Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB
& 2 partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought???
Have reinstalled OS Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:


Does the 40GB drive show up in the drive list on the black
bios screen at boot time ? Likely not from the detail below.

Its likely something pretty basic like you havent got a power
lead plugged into it or its not jumpered correctly etc.




So I only have C:,D:,E: and 40 GB of missing data.
ANy input would be greatly appreciated. Help!!!!.
Did backup most of my stuff but not all of it.

 

[Svend Olaf Mikkelsen]

OK I hope this is it. Thank You Svend!!
Jan

Disk: 2 Cylinders: 4982 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 39080

Partitions according to partition tables on second harddisk:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*55 9 16434486 8024 0 0 10 1022 254 63 OK

EZ adjusted:

-PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
0 1*0C 63 36065862 17610 0 1 1 2244 254 63 OK OK
0 2 0F 36065925 43969905 21469 2245 0 1 4981 254 63 OK

2245 1 0B 63 43969842 21469 2245 1 1 4981 254 63 R0 OK

There is nothing wrong, except that the disk manager EZ-drive is
installed on disk 2. Originally it was on disk 1 too.

It can be solved by uninstalling EZ-drive, or editing the partition
tables. Alternatively the files can be copied to disk 1 using a
recovery tool.

 

[Rod Speed]

Its funny [not really] I did try to unplug the other drive but the power
plug was totally stuck. So I took off the ribbon cable instead. Then PC
wouldn't boot so plugged it back in, correctly. Maybe that was a bad
thing to do but I think it was OK???????

From what Svend has said it appears that you wiped
the bios overlay when you formatted the boot drive and
so the 40GB drive then became invisible to the OS.

Thanks Rod,
Well what did I do this time??

Hard to say. Its possible to kill an MBR by putting
the ribbon cable on backwards temporarily.

Its also possible to bugger it up by playing
around with the drive type entry for that drive.

Does that mean the data is gone too or maybe it can be recovered.

Almost certainly recoverable.

Or will I just be able to use the drive again - EMPTY.

You can certainly do that, but you should be able to get the data back.

I guess I should disconnected this other HD before formating C:

Yeah, that is safer.

With the 40Gb being the slave do some of the fdisk
commands from C:go astray? Or was it me?

Almost certainly something you did.

Tried to be so careful! Thanks will check back later -
Hoping for a bit of good news.

Yeah, it should be feasible to get the data back with a bit of care.

Rod Speed wrote:




Some more info.
TIA
JAn

Fdisk is showing- maybe too much info here but thought that is better
than not enough.

Disk Drive Usage
1 19540 100%
C: 19540
__________________________________________________
Disk Mbytes Free Usage
2 39080 31055 21%

______________________________________________________
More info on Disk 2
Partition Status Type Mbytes Usage
1 A Non-Dos 8025 21%


Yeah, thats the problem, its somehow got the MBR
mangled and its now showing as a single non dos partition.

The MBR can be repaired, hopefully Svend or
Joep who have utes to repair it will comment.

Dont try repairing it yourself until they comment,
too much risk of buggering it up irrepairably.




Rod Speed wrote:







Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB
& 2 partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought???
Have reinstalled OS Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:


Does the 40GB drive show up in the drive list on the black
bios screen at boot time ? Likely not from the detail below.

Its likely something pretty basic like you havent got a power
lead plugged into it or its not jumpered correctly etc.




So I only have C:,D:,E: and 40 GB of missing data.
ANy input would be greatly appreciated. Help!!!!.
Did backup most of my stuff but not all of it.

 

[Jan]

So how can I make it visible??
Thanks Rod
Jan

Its funny [not really] I did try to unplug the other drive but the power
plug was totally stuck. So I took off the ribbon cable instead. Then PC
wouldn't boot so plugged it back in, correctly. Maybe that was a bad
thing to do but I think it was OK???????

From what Svend has said it appears that you wiped
the bios overlay when you formatted the boot drive and
so the 40GB drive then became invisible to the OS.

Rod Speed wrote:

Thanks Rod,
Well what did I do this time??


Hard to say. Its possible to kill an MBR by putting
the ribbon cable on backwards temporarily.

Its also possible to bugger it up by playing
around with the drive type entry for that drive.



Does that mean the data is gone too or maybe it can be recovered.


Almost certainly recoverable.



Or will I just be able to use the drive again - EMPTY.


You can certainly do that, but you should be able to get the data back.



I guess I should disconnected this other HD before formating C:


Yeah, that is safer.



With the 40Gb being the slave do some of the fdisk
commands from C:go astray? Or was it me?


Almost certainly something you did.



Tried to be so careful! Thanks will check back later -
Hoping for a bit of good news.


Yeah, it should be feasible to get the data back with a bit of care.




Rod Speed wrote:






Some more info.
TIA
JAn

Fdisk is showing- maybe too much info here but thought that is better
than not enough.

Disk Drive Usage
1 19540 100%
C: 19540
__________________________________________________
Disk Mbytes Free Usage
2 39080 31055 21%

______________________________________________________
More info on Disk 2
Partition Status Type Mbytes Usage
1 A Non-Dos 8025 21%


Yeah, thats the problem, its somehow got the MBR
mangled and its now showing as a single non dos partition.

The MBR can be repaired, hopefully Svend or
Joep who have utes to repair it will comment.

Dont try repairing it yourself until they comment,
too much risk of buggering it up irrepairably.





Rod Speed wrote:









Had to rebuild my PC.
I have 2 HD [1 is 20GB & 1 partition [C:] the other [1 is 40GB
& 2 partitions [D & E] Well format went OK I thought???
Have reinstalled OS Win Millenium. Seems fine!
BIG PROBLEM is my D& E are gone missing.
PC named my burner D: and CDROM E:


Does the 40GB drive show up in the drive list on the black
bios screen at boot time ? Likely not from the detail below.

Its likely something pretty basic like you havent got a power
lead plugged into it or its not jumpered correctly etc.





So I only have C:,D:,E: and 40 GB of missing data.
ANy input would be greatly appreciated. Help!!!!.
Did backup most of my stuff but not all of it.

 

[Svend Olaf Mikkelsen]

But how to I get to Disk 2 to do this stuff??
Maybe this is beyond me??
Thanks Svend for your help. I feel like I can breathe again now that I
know its there somewhere.
Jan

As far as I can figure out, the BIOS does support the full disk size,
so it will be OK to edit the partition tables. I will make a batch
file to edit the partition tables, and post it later.

 

[Jan]

Thank You SO much will check back later. Do you have any idea how I
messed this up?
Regards, Jan

 

[Svend Olaf Mikkelsen]

Thank You SO much will check back later. Do you have any idea how I
messed this up?

For now we will concentrate on solving it.

Get the file jarek1.bat in:

http://inet.uni2.dk/~svolaf/jarek1.zip


Put jarek1.bat in the same directory as findpart.exe, and run (double
click) jarek1.bat, which contains:

set findpart=edit
findpart 2 0 1 * 0C 0 1 1 2244 254 63 0 4982 255 63 26
findpart 2 0 2 - 0F 2245 0 1 4981 254 63 0 4982 255 63 26
set findpart=
findpart 2 table fp2-1.txt

Then reboot.

 

[Jan]

Ok Did that. Now what should I look for.
Thank You Svend
Jan

 

[Svend Olaf Mikkelsen]

Ok Did that. Now what should I look for.
Thank You Svend
Jan

Then post the content from fp2-1.txt.