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PA Bear [MS MVP]
I can't comment, Willy. If I did, it'd start a flame-war. If you like
top-posting your replies, go right ahead and do so.
top-posting your replies, go right ahead and do so.
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
[It's Robear, please.]
If you're referring to anti-virus scans, running a full system scan daily
(after updating definitions) should be fine, Willy.
There is some stuff that you probably should NOT scan though. See
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158
If you're referring to anti-virus scans, running a full system scan daily
(after updating definitions) should be fine, Willy.
There is some stuff that you probably should NOT scan though. See
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/822158
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Willy
Sorry, I realized that after I asked the question. I installed Avira
AntiVir and like it thus far. It found a virus that ZA & AV G didn't find.
AntiVir and like it thus far. It found a virus that ZA & AV G didn't find.
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Willy
Thanks for the info link on what not to scan Robear.
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Kayman
Yes son
It's not only a great idea but it's the way Usenet participantsshould communicate!
OE is not and never was a proper newsreader and incidentally top-posting is
frowned upon...:
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
(some posters just don't get it, oh well)
Please be guided accordingly and install a more useful (free) application.
I would suggest Dialog 2.0.15.1 from http://www.40tude.com/dialog/
and with the 2.0.15.41 update from http://dialog.datalist.org/
To use this update, first install Dialog 2.0.15.1 using one of the
installer files above.
To update to Dialog 2.0.15.41, download the "dialog.41.zip" file above.
Rename the existing "dialog.exe" file in the "\Program Files\40tude Dialog"
folder to "dialog.exe.old", and then extract the updated "dialog.exe" to
the same folder.
You'll be glad you did!
Good luck
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Terry R.
The date and time was Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:58:45 PM, and on a
whim, PA Bear [MS MVP] pounded out on the keyboard:
His question had nothing to do with top posting, Go back and read what I
said to Willy. I've have never said anything was wrong with top
posting. But I did comment on replying with a sig when top posting
using OE/WM. THIS is the issue.
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His question had nothing to do with top posting, Go back and read what I
said to Willy. I've have never said anything was wrong with top
posting. But I did comment on replying with a sig when top posting
using OE/WM. THIS is the issue.
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Terry R.
The date and time was Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:35:19 PM, and on a
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Willy,
Please read my post again. You obviously misunderstood, as it had
nothing to do with your preference of replying, but getting the usage of
the delimiter fixed within Outlook Express.
You can see that my newsreader removed EVERYTHING below your sig file
that contained the delimiter (the "-- "). THIS is the issue I was
speaking of. It had nothing to do with top posting.
I use AntiVir also and install it on all my single user clients. It's a
very good program.
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Willy,
Please read my post again. You obviously misunderstood, as it had
nothing to do with your preference of replying, but getting the usage of
the delimiter fixed within Outlook Express.
You can see that my newsreader removed EVERYTHING below your sig file
that contained the delimiter (the "-- "). THIS is the issue I was
speaking of. It had nothing to do with top posting.
I use AntiVir also and install it on all my single user clients. It's a
very good program.
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Terry R.
The date and time was Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:44:08 PM, and on a
whim, Willy pounded out on the keyboard:
Willy,
This is what will happen when anyone replies to you with a newsreader
that properly understands what to do with a delimiter. Until you
install Quotefix, OE will continue to do that unless you don't use a sig
file.
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Willy,
This is what will happen when anyone replies to you with a newsreader
that properly understands what to do with a delimiter. Until you
install Quotefix, OE will continue to do that unless you don't use a sig
file.
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Willy
Thanks Terry. Looks good like this to. Been sick most of week so haven't
got around to that fix yet.
got around to that fix yet.
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Willy
Robear, I'm slightly confused about the instruction (I had brain stroke 13
years ago reason for my absent-mindness)provided in Avira Antiv with using
exceptions as it relates to the info you sent me. Do you use Avira & if so
mind giving me some clarification/example on how to use it? The help in
Avira says it will scan , ie., D:\text\doc but not D:\folder\test.doc, but
yet when I try to set exceptions in Avir it puts ie, D:\folder\test.doc in
that space. Should I just manually type D:\test.doc ?
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years ago reason for my absent-mindness)provided in Avira Antiv with using
exceptions as it relates to the info you sent me. Do you use Avira & if so
mind giving me some clarification/example on how to use it? The help in
Avira says it will scan , ie., D:\text\doc but not D:\folder\test.doc, but
yet when I try to set exceptions in Avir it puts ie, D:\folder\test.doc in
that space. Should I just manually type D:\test.doc ?
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Terry R.
The date and time was Wednesday, January 14, 2009 1:23:21 PM, and on a
whim, Willy pounded out on the keyboard:
Willy,
Click the button that has "..." to the left of Add. That way you can
navigate to the files you want to exclude.
In the "Description" box below (in the same Exception window), when you
hover over an object you get an explanation of what to do.
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Willy,
Click the button that has "..." to the left of Add. That way you can
navigate to the files you want to exclude.
In the "Description" box below (in the same Exception window), when you
hover over an object you get an explanation of what to do.
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PA Bear [MS MVP]
There's a support forum for AntiVir Free, Willy. You can ask your questions
there: http://forum.avira.com/wbb/ (post in the "AntiVir Personal for
Windows" forum.
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OT: Briefly, here's what I think Terry is talking about IN RE Outlook
Express (OS) and the "sig delimiter" =>
By default, OE will include your chosen signature directly below your posted
message and a double-hyphen "signature delimiter."
When another poster top-posts a reply to your post *using OE newsreader*,
the sig delimiter and sig in your quoted posted is automatically removed
without removing anything else (i.e., the quoted previous replies).
There are other newsreaders people use (e.g., Agent) that will remove
*everything* below the sig delimiter in replies (i.e., the limiter, your
signature, and the quoted messages below them).
If you install OE-QuoteFix (OE-QF) and configure OE-QF to add your signature
at the very bottom of your post (i.e., below your reply and all quoted
messages in it), everything in your post *above* the signature will be
preserved when a user of one of these other newsreaders replies to your
post.
PS: I have OE-QF installed but I do not have it configured this way as (1) I
only post in MS newsgroups and (2) most other posters in MS newsgroups use
OE (and top-post). OE-QF does a lot of other, useful things; see Dominik
Jain's (author of OE-QF & OL-QF) page
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
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there: http://forum.avira.com/wbb/ (post in the "AntiVir Personal for
Windows" forum.
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OT: Briefly, here's what I think Terry is talking about IN RE Outlook
Express (OS) and the "sig delimiter" =>
By default, OE will include your chosen signature directly below your posted
message and a double-hyphen "signature delimiter."
When another poster top-posts a reply to your post *using OE newsreader*,
the sig delimiter and sig in your quoted posted is automatically removed
without removing anything else (i.e., the quoted previous replies).
There are other newsreaders people use (e.g., Agent) that will remove
*everything* below the sig delimiter in replies (i.e., the limiter, your
signature, and the quoted messages below them).
If you install OE-QuoteFix (OE-QF) and configure OE-QF to add your signature
at the very bottom of your post (i.e., below your reply and all quoted
messages in it), everything in your post *above* the signature will be
preserved when a user of one of these other newsreaders replies to your
post.
PS: I have OE-QF installed but I do not have it configured this way as (1) I
only post in MS newsgroups and (2) most other posters in MS newsgroups use
OE (and top-post). OE-QF does a lot of other, useful things; see Dominik
Jain's (author of OE-QF & OL-QF) page
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/
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Willy
Got them added.
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Terry R.
The date and time was Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:43:10 PM, and on a
whim, PA Bear [MS MVP] pounded out on the keyboard:
The delimiter is a hyphen hyphen space ("-- "), not just two hyphens.
Proper newsreaders ignore just two hyphens without a space.
This is incorrect. MS mail clients remove nothing. That's the point.
The MS clients ADD a delimiter when top posting with a sig (no other
newsreader does that) and ignore the delimiter altogether when replying,
so nothing is ever removed. The delimiter was created for bottom
replying, so any sig would be stripped, but not any quotes in the thread.
But why should those with proper newsreaders that handle the delimiter
the way it was designed be inconvenienced by those that use MS clients
that are broken in this issue? Isn't there an add-on that can insert
sigs without using OE to do it? I use Thunderbird and there is an
add-on called Quicktext that will insert different templates of your
choosing, and since it inserts the text, no delimiter is added.
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The delimiter is a hyphen hyphen space ("-- "), not just two hyphens.
Proper newsreaders ignore just two hyphens without a space.
This is incorrect. MS mail clients remove nothing. That's the point.
The MS clients ADD a delimiter when top posting with a sig (no other
newsreader does that) and ignore the delimiter altogether when replying,
so nothing is ever removed. The delimiter was created for bottom
replying, so any sig would be stripped, but not any quotes in the thread.
But why should those with proper newsreaders that handle the delimiter
the way it was designed be inconvenienced by those that use MS clients
that are broken in this issue? Isn't there an add-on that can insert
sigs without using OE to do it? I use Thunderbird and there is an
add-on called Quicktext that will insert different templates of your
choosing, and since it inserts the text, no delimiter is added.
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Terry R.
The date and time was Wednesday, January 14, 2009 5:47:28 PM, and on a
whim, PA Bear [MS MVP] pounded out on the keyboard:
Are you really afraid to admit that MS clients are broken? Your
response is not really one that addresses my comments. Probably because
you don't have a proper answer to it, correct? But at least you didn't
include your sig, which is the WHOLE reason for us having this
conversation, isn't it.
Don't get defensive. I'm not attacking you. I'm just commenting on the
flaws in the MS mail clients. Respond like an adult, Robear.
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Are you really afraid to admit that MS clients are broken? Your
response is not really one that addresses my comments. Probably because
you don't have a proper answer to it, correct? But at least you didn't
include your sig, which is the WHOLE reason for us having this
conversation, isn't it.
Don't get defensive. I'm not attacking you. I'm just commenting on the
flaws in the MS mail clients. Respond like an adult, Robear.
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