Work as a normal user (not guest). Adjust the rights for programs that
need to be run by users but won't run as a normal user [1]. Replace
programs where this isn't possible.
For administrative tasks use runas or log in as an administrative user.
The latter is the preferred method, because the former may allow for
shatter attacks against the programs started with admin privileges.
[1]
http://www.planetcobalt.net/sdb/submission.shtml
You reference currently only brings up or redirects to a welcome page.
I don't see what article has the relevant info.
The URL worked with Mozilla, but apparently not with other browsers.
Fixed.
thanks, i'll look at that info
Guest is something completely different from LUA. Don't confuse the two.
ok
Once a box is set up properly, people do not need administrative rights
very often. BTDT.
end users in a company don't, at home - some want it at their own
risk, and call a cheap geek if it goes wrong.
But techie users may well need it.
What do you do? Suppose you browse frequently, and do admin operations
sometimes during te day, and install programs often. Are you logging
off and on often for the admin operations?
Are you spending extra time to load up your browser, Right clicking an
icon and typing a password? Just to start your browser.
Then if you close it, you have to do it again!!!
Ummm... normal users are not supposed to create files in C:\. Users have
full write access in their %USERPROFILE%, which is the place where they
are supposed to create their files (preferrably either in the "My
Documents" subfolder or %TEMP%).
*end users* But a techie user may well want to put a txt file on c:\ ,
for the benefit of it being a short easy path. Easy to get to from the
command line.
What do you do?
For your computer.
Besides, I don't see any reason at all why non-administrative users
should be allowed to create anything (be it files or folders) in C:\ in
the first place. Which is why I restrict limited users to read-only
access to C:\ on all systems I set up.
what about you, a techie user ?
I can do notepad c:\a.txt
and even a LUA account allows c:\a\a.txt
Do you type
notepad c:\document...bloody long path..\
or a load of percentages to type an environment variable?!! Don't you
ever want to type things with a brush of the hand
<slightly unnecessary and eccentric elaboration>
notepad, easy.
cd \ , easy. Even easier on a uk keyboard, to do cd\
%userprofile%\desktop . Even the %s are an issue. that's not nice to
type often. You have to look where the number is.. People tend to
touchtype with the keypad.. Typing shift+ one of those top numbers
isn't so smooth.
All you want to do is create a file on the comp. Your comp !!
At the moment i'm in a room and some idiot turned the lights out. I
can still type but % are even more of a nuisance than usual 'cos I
can't see the numbers. I'd have to get out of my chair to turn the
lights on. Anyhow, besides that, one should be able to touchtype
something so simple. Those top numbers aren' so accessible without
looking beforehand.. To create a file on the computer I shouldn't have
to squint or even look, at the keyboard.
I've been doing exactly what you call "too much hassle" for years now,
without any problems. If you need to grow progress bars while doing
other work as a limited user, you just start your preferred file manager
via runas and run all setups from there. Problem solved.
So you're doing runas once, but then you need you file manager's
window open all the time.
Here's a big issue. Windows xp only has preinstalled, windows explorer
as a file manager. Doing runas on that has issues.
(probably linked to the fact that in the ctrl alt delete world, it's a
shell one can end and restart, and one the windows shell has started,
explorer.exe is a file manager! well, if you double click the icon)
A Workaround I briefly read of that I hadn't tried, is to do runas on
IE, and use the address bar to access local files (though I read
something about that not working with IE7) .
A workaround I use on the rare occassions that I use a LUA, is to do
runas on cmd.exe (typing a long runas command to bring up a command
prompt with administrative priviledges)
And apparently there's a fix that can be done on a per account basis,
to allow you to do runas on explorer.exe
http://blogs.msdn.com/aaron_margosis/archive/2004/07/07/175488.aspx
http://searchwincomputing.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid68_gci1251819,00.html
If you use a 3rd party file manager and get around it that way, you
have to install that + do so for all your end users.
Install Nero Burn Rights and put the users that should be able to burn
CDs into the group "Nero" (works for other burning software too). Or use
a different program. Deep Burner for instance works just fine as a
limited user here.
Such a trivial thing, and nero needs special treatment. Doesn't cover
other cd burners though . At least that hassle is a one-off, ok.
Though for the rare times I burn a CD. I can deal with runas.
Then use runas. It's only the second best option, but an option
nonetheless.
That doesn't apply here.
Runas works for installing or running programs that need
administrative priviledges to install or run respectively.
But it doesn't let you make administrative amendments, e.g. to the
windows firewall. Or adding/deleting users, resetting a password.
If doing admin tasks many times a day, at any time, it'a a hassle to
close all your programs and go to administrative mode, do them. Then
to go back as LUA to browse the web. And what if you want to do an
admin task and browse the web to check something.
I'm running a BitTorrent client on this Win2k box as a limited user
without any problems. Your point being? It's not like somebody's forcing
you to use crappy P2P software.
Bit Torrent does not supercede P2P in any way. It has its issues
For a start, there's playing the game of searching for torrents. It
may take searching on a few websites to find what you want, and those
websites go down often and you have to be \in the loop' as to what the
current good torrent search sites are.
They are also different communities, diferent programs are availale.
Even from one P2P app to another. One may be good for music, another
for various genre of short video clips, another for (big) movies.. I
found an old program AA - autodesk animator - on kazaa. Kazaa made it
easy to share files. Yet, te first bit torrent client (The standard
one), i didnt' 'use it much but I recall it being messy to share the
files you downloaded, I think you had to keep windows open, one per
file.. Maybe a good client like uTorrent improves that. But all these
things have issues. P2P is good. For programs, vid clips, movies,
anything.
If you can tell me a way to find torrents that doesn't involve
googling myself into a new seat in hell, i'd like to know. One website
with all the torrents, a website that doesn't go down. I sitll doubt
it'll have the array of files that P2P apps do..
