External Drives DON"T WORK WITH VISTA

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Obtain one which does?
But it's a plain fact that Windows cannot, nor has it ever been able to, and
probably won't ever be able to, boot from an external drive of ANY kind.

Unless of course, Microsoft gets on the ball, and starts building it into
their OSes.

Considering that most newer motherboards will boot from almost any external
device, it's about time that Microsoft added it to their OSes.

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Donald L McDaniel
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Not interested in booting from drive just using drive. Maxtor Drive
(firewire) is not recognized and when connected Vista will take 1/2hr
to close or retart. Jump drive (US) is also not recognized.
 
Jackbliss said:
I cannot use a 3 year old Maxtor External Drive or Lexar Jump Drive
either - Any solutions?

Two suggestions:

1, MS has released a number of patches for Vista, including at least one
that has to do with USB support. If you haven't already, make sure
Vista is up to date on Windows Update.

2, Since not everyone is having the problem, it could be a motherboard
chipset driver problem. You might want to check with the manufacturer
to see if they have updated chipset drivers for Vista.

Best Regards,

Dave
 
Jackbliss said:
Not interested in booting from drive just using drive. Maxtor Drive
(firewire) is not recognized and when connected Vista will take 1/2hr
to close or retart. Jump drive (US) is also not recognized.

1) Have you installed a Vista-compatible IEEE 1394 Bus Host controller driver
for your Firewire controller? "no drivee, no workee"
2) Have you installed USB2.0?
3) Have you enabled USB 2.0 in your BIOS?
4) Have you installed latest BIOS updates for your machine?
5) Have you installed ALL latest Vista-compatible device drivers?
6) Have you checked to see if Firewire must be enabled in your BIOS?
7) Have you made sure that your Firewire drive is formatted either as FAT32,
or as NTFS? Otherwise, Vista will not recognize it.

When you have done those 7 things, come back, and I will revisit your issue.

Also, please include a listing of your devices, motherboard, memory amount
and type, and especially, your Maxtor Drive Firewire model, as well as your
USB thumb-drive maker and model.
 
im having the same problem, one WD external works fine with vista, then i go
to use my new one (formatted it using xp etc_) went to use on laptop with
vista and it wont pick it up >< i mean surely something natively supported by
xp would be natively supported by vista as well. Unless im doing something
wrong....lol...but my usb mouse and other external etc etc was all picked up
fine.

I plug my hdd in and it comes up installing drivers, then says windows needs
to install software for your USB to ATA/ATAPI bridge, then i click locate and
and install automatically, then it just goes into USB to ATA/ATAPI bridge
driver failed. i have googled the driver with out luck. i do not have a
driver cd. the brand is NEXT with a standard 500gig seagate drive in it... is
this something that ive done wrong??
 
Donald, you seem knowledgeable.
I have a 1-year old HP Slimline running Vista Home Premium
(factory/reseller- installed). Until recently, I had no problems with any
type of external drive. A 3-year old Accomodate external HD (USB), a Canon
Pixma photo printer (USB), a Seagate external HD (Firewire), and numerous
manufacturers of external flash drives all worked flawlessly as plug 'n play.
Suddenly, all my computer will read are the native internal drives - it won't
even read my removable HP Pocket Media Drive. My Microsoft Wireless Keyboard
and Mouse bagged first. I replaced with wired versions, and they work fine
through the PS2 ports. Once I regained control, I realized nothing else was
there. I have reinstalled my Canon printer driver (latest one), and
uninstalled and reinstalled my USB drivers multiple times (the computer says
they are working properly). It won't even read my flash memory cards from the
built-in slots. All of this happened before I installed Service Pack 1. The
only software I installed around the time of the error was a Linksys router
signal extender, but that was a pass through install to my wireless router,
and doesn't show up in my programs. I tried going back to a restore point
before this install to no avail.

I have checked for new versions on my PCI to USB Host Controller, my Open
USB Host Controller and my IEEE 1394 Host Controller (AGERE OHCI Compliant
1394 Host Controller), and all say they are up-to-date.

My computer specs are as follows:

HP Slimline 3020n
AMD 64 X 2 Dual Core
Device 1 (USB) Canon PIXMA IP 1600 Photo Printer
Device 2 (Firewire 400) Seagate 750 GB external HD
Numerous and assorted flash drives

I wouldreally appreciate a fix: I can't transfer fiiles, print, or access my
iTunes collection.
 
What drivers are you trying to install? I shouldn't think it would need
any. Have looked for the drive in Drive Manager? What do you see there?
Have you assigned a drive letter? How does it connect to your computer,
usb? firewire? eSATA?
 
We do not ask Vista(TM) to do everything just the minimum any businessman
would need from a $200.00 OS we are forced to deal with because there are no
longer any XP OS systems to be bought anymore. To that end Microsoft could at
least provide a generic USB to ATA/ATAPI driver so that perhaps some newer
model external drives which state they are Vista(TM) compatable would have
more than a hockey player's chance to score a goal in hell.
 
mr. Stu said:
We do not ask Vista(TM) to do everything just the minimum any businessman
would need from a $200.00 OS we are forced to deal with because there are no
longer any XP OS systems to be bought anymore. To that end Microsoft could at
least provide a generic USB to ATA/ATAPI driver so that perhaps some newer
model external drives which state they are Vista(TM) compatable would have
more than a hockey player's chance to score a goal in hell.


People who just rant and rave, but provide no information as to what their problem is, get all the help they deserve.
 
mr. Stu said:
We do not ask Vista(TM) to do everything just the minimum any businessman
would need from a $200.00 OS we are forced to deal with because there are no
longer any XP OS systems to be bought anymore. To that end Microsoft could at
least provide a generic USB to ATA/ATAPI driver so that perhaps some newer
model external drives which state they are Vista(TM) compatable would have
more than a hockey player's chance to score a goal in hell.

Took me about 30 seconds to find a PC with XP. Just look under business
desktops on the HP site. I also know that Dell has them also. Methink
you didn't look to hard.

gls858
 
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 05:15:01 -0700, mr. Stu <mr.
We do not ask Vista(TM) to do everything just the minimum any businessman
would need from a $200.00 OS we are forced to deal with because there are no
longer any XP OS systems to be bought anymore. To that end Microsoft could at
least provide a generic USB to ATA/ATAPI driver so that perhaps some newer
model external drives which state they are Vista(TM) compatable would have
more than a hockey player's chance to score a goal in hell.

External drives DO work with Vista. I just installed my 5th, a Seagate
1 TB Free Agent Pro. Vista should detect new hardware and then
automatically install drivers for either SATA, USB or Firewire.

You need to plug in the drive's data cable (either USB, Firewire or
SATA) then power up the drive. Depending on which make and model you
have you might have to use some included CD or DVD to install any
utilities, special software that might come with the drive.

You need to give more specific answers. Does Vista "see" the drive or
not? It may need to be formatted or it could already be. Again,
depends on make, model. Some drives might come formatted with the
older FAT 32 system (rare) and you need to reformat to NTFS for best
performance under Vista.

How easily a external drives "plugs in" to your system depends on what
system you have. If you system doesn't have connectors for USB,
Firewire or SATA already built in (look on back plate of computer)
then you'll need to purchase a external card that supports the
interface/controller you wish to use.

The biggest problem anyone has with external drives is getting brain
dead Windows to unmount them without issue. This has been a long
running issue where when you try to turn off (unmount) some external
Vista like in prior versions of Windows might sometimes complain the
drive is in use when it isn't. This is another in a long line of
issues Microsoft hasn't properly addressed.
 
gls858 said:
Took me about 30 seconds to find a PC with XP. Just look under business
desktops on the HP site. I also know that Dell has them also. Methink you
didn't look to hard.

And ebuyer.com has loads of XP OSs for sale....
 
irrespective said:
abc, try digging through the registry to
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\SUB and look for entries under
Vid_0000&Pid_0000 for identifier strings related to your hardware, its very
possible that the system is recognizing the drives as "Unknown Devices" and
pushing them here.

What you will attempt to do is delete all the entries under the
Vid_0000&Pid_0000 key but MS (in its infinite wisdom) has decided to
eliminate any user control over these keys.

I know this because every time Windows Defender runs against the USB key I
have set up as my ReadyBoost drive it fails out, the hardware drops, Windows
attemtps to recognize it again but Windows Defender is still trying to access
it. The multiple access calls screw with the hardware identification and
Vista ends up identifying the hardware as an "Unknown Device", if I have any
other devices attached to the computer at the time that use USBSTOR.SYS they
are also re-registered as "Unknown Devices".

I may sound bitter.

If I find an EASY way to change the rights on the ENUM keys I'll post it up,
but as it is I think the only methodology of changing the rights on ENUM is
by startup script and I'm frankly I need to calm down first.
 
Cody was referring to the type of connector used to connect to your computer, not the type of
interface within the external drive case. Do you have a SCSI cable connection or a SATA cable
connection? Or is the cable a USB connection?
(Yes, I know that the interface within the case would be the same in either of these applications).

If you just use the external drive for backup, it does not matter what connector interface you use,
it should work in Vista.
 
so how can i tell what kind of external hard drive it is


Two points:

1. Look at the connector that plugs into the computer. If it goes into
a rectangular socket, about 1/2" by 1/4", it's USB.

2. The great majority of these are USB, so that's very likely what
yours is. And if it were any other kind, you almost certainly would
know it.
 
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