Epson Water Color Paper?

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Does Epson no longer make the Water Color paper?

I'm looking for something with more texture than the Enhanced Matte paper to
print out some of my LF images. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Mark
 
In rec.photo.digital Mark Anon said:
Does Epson no longer make the Water Color paper?
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I'm looking for something with more texture than the Enhanced Matte paper to
print out some of my LF images. Any suggestions?
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Epson Somerset Velvet is the very best, but it's frighteningly
expensive.

Andrew.
 
Is this the same as Epson Velvet (S041636 for 8.5x11, and S041637 for 13x19)
??

"Somerset" is available on Epson's website in sizes smaller than 24x30

Mark
 
I'm looking for something with more texture than the Enhanced Matte paper
to
print out some of my LF images. Any suggestions?
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Tetenal Aquarell watercolor paper has a very nice hand pressed finish.
You can actually print on either side depending on the effect desired.
Their Canvas material can also do this for two different effects.
 
Thank you Bob.



Tetenal Aquarell watercolor paper has a very nice hand pressed finish.
You can actually print on either side depending on the effect desired.
Their Canvas material can also do this for two different effects.
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Mark Anon said:
Does Epson no longer make the Water Color paper?
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Try watercolor paper from the art store -- the stuff
sold for painting watercolors. I have done it and it
works well, don't know if it is still considered 'kosher'.

"Cheap Joe's Art Stuff" is a decent discount art supply
house, they are on www.
 
You can try it but the results are very soft as standard WC paper has
no coating to restrict the bleed of the ink. That said I have seen some
nice pieces using this technique, but it was on Rieves or Arches paper,
not Cheap Joes'. www.ATLEX.com has epson papers at a substantial
discount from the Epson site. www.hawkmtnartpapers.com is a very good
independent paper manufacturer, very good people to deal with.

Tom
 
Nicholas said:
Try watercolor paper from the art store -- the stuff
sold for painting watercolors. I have done it and it
works well, don't know if it is still considered 'kosher'.

"Cheap Joe's Art Stuff" is a decent discount art supply
house, they are on www.
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I have done the same.
I get a "Tablet" of 25-30 sheets of acid-free watercolor paper with a
texture as close as possible to the original from my local Art store.
Costs around $10. Works great.
Bob Williams
 
Nicholas O. Lindan said:
Try watercolor paper from the art store -- the stuff
sold for painting watercolors. I have done it and it
works well, don't know if it is still considered 'kosher'.

"Cheap Joe's Art Stuff" is a decent discount art supply
house, they are on www.
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I did that years ago and the results were horrible.
Dot gain on artists' watercolor paper is enormous
and (IMO) totally unsuitable for detailed prints
or images that need "snap."

Problem is, inket papers don't hold photographic
detail without a good, hard coating. The best
Dmax and contrast also require optical brighteners.

Viz., regular old Somerset Velvet sucked badly,
but Somerset Velvet "Photo Enhanced" worked
quite nicely.

The downside (there always is one) is that such
coatings applied to coarse-fibered "art" papers
tend to flake off, leaving dust and debris in the
printer. If the paper flakes after the ink goes on,
it leaves white specks on the print.

The "solution" is to brush the paper thoroughly
and carefully before printing.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
rafe b said:
I did that years ago and the results were horrible.
Dot gain on artists' watercolor paper is enormous
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And I tried it and the results were great, dot gain was
enormous and it lost that ink-jet look.
Problem is, inket [sic, I think he means WC papers, ed]
papers don't hold photographic detail without a good, hard coating.
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Rafe, baby, if the question is watercolor paper the
answer isn't 'photographic detail'.
 
Rafe, baby, if the question is watercolor paper the
answer isn't 'photographic detail'.
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Well, the word "photo" still appears in the name of this
group, doesn't it?

Agreed, there is a class of images and subject that might
yield acceptable or even desirable results on uncoated WC
paper. Viz., the same sorts of images that one might
take with a soft-focus lens.

Not my gig, though.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
And I tried it and the results were great, dot gain was
enormous and it lost that ink-jet look.
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How old is your printer, Nick? If you're seeing
dots from a modern Epson, Canon or HP printer
in photo/best mode, your visual acuity is
probably in the 99.9th percentile.

Seriously, on the R800/R1800, dots are not
observable without a loupe. I expec even
our resident grain sniffer Dave L. would
concur.

FWIW, in my first post on this topic I did
qualify by saying that WC was not suitable
for images that need "snap." But if you're
making dreamy, soft-focus, high-key stuff,
it just might be the ticket.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com
 
rafe b said:
How old is your printer, Nick? If you're seeing
dots from a modern Epson, Canon or HP printer
in photo/best mode, your visual acuity is
probably in the 99.9th percentile.

Seriously, on the R800/R1800, dots are not
observable without a loupe. I expec even
our resident grain sniffer Dave L. would
concur.
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Yep. No dots without a loupe. The R800 is seriously amazing. At A4 it
renders pretty much _all_ the detail a 5D captures. That's 353 ppi of real
detail.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan
 
[email protected] (Mark Anon) said:
I'm looking for something with more texture than the Enhanced Matte
paper to print out some of my LF images. Any suggestions?
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Bockingford double-sided inkjet watercolour paper is very nice. I've used
it quite a bit in my Epson 2100 and have been very pleased with the
results.

Jon.
 
Is this the same as Epson Velvet (S041636 for 8.5x11, and S041637 for 13x19)
??
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"Somerset" is available on Epson's website in sizes smaller than 24x30
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I don't know, sorry. Form the description it might well be, but I
can't be sure.

Somerset Velvet has the best black I've seen on a matt cotton paper,
great whites, and excellent colour gamut.

Andrew.
 
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