Epson sucks

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Amusing, in that colleagues found the same thing in Alaska v SoCal.
o Printers -- big A3+ 1520, some 3000, one 5000
o Usage -- big prj-mgt-chart-tomes, financial, needs A2 & colour
o Clogging -- none in Alaska, problem in SoCal

Now it could be coincidence, the sample is quite small and the
usage whilst similar is obvious not a controlled experiment.

Use was intermittent & baby-sit for 16-hrs straight paper-feeding.

Colour was vital - multi-layer processes, IT/process integration,
and sheer A2 eye-boggle requires it for speed & usability. A chart
is only as good as those able to get info from it - so Epson delivered.
Colour lasers in A2 aren't exactly daily Walmart specials.

So good printers - perhaps factor in "may clog in the price".
o Epson 1660 A3 (3-colour like 1520 cartridge anyway)
---- 220ukp, ok, it may clog in 10,000pgs
o HP 1770C (3-colour, removeable heads a la 2500C)
---- 540ukp by 10,000pgs with replaceable heads

So I'm still ahead if the Epson clogs well before 10,000pgs.

I'm way ahead on consumables - compatible for the 1660 are
the same as the 1520 which are about 2ukp a go for black.

Thanks.
 
"If the cap fits, wear it. having squeezed your enormous troll skull
under it, crawl back into your cave, then FOAD!"

Sigh! Just do a quick google search for key words "printhead clogging" you
will see more than 90%, if not all, are Epson printers that owners complain
about.

There is a reason why Epson printheads clog more than not. Epson uses piezo
printhead. Other brands use thermo printheads. In terms of the ink ejecting
power piezo force is much smaller than thermo forces. This fundamental
difference makes Epson different from others in terms of head clogging. It
is of particular trouble when pigment based inks are used. Pigment colorant
molecules are much bigger and heavier than dye molecules. As a result of using
pigment based inks Epson owners will experience more of crawling back to your
cave then FOAD.
 
CecilWilliams said:
Regarding Epson printers clogging up, I've owned several Epsons
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Jayzus, cecilw, you're making Epson look bad.

Knock off the multi-posting.
 
Carrie, whether Epson looks good or bad is up to Epson, not me. Since
the problem of Epson printheads clogging is widespread and apparently
not well understood, I decided to share my own personal experiences as
a long-time Epson printer user. Most people simply do not realize the
correlation between room temperature and humidity on Epson printhead
clogging, and I'm trying to shed some light on that matter. I think my
nearly 30 years of background as an electro-mechanical technician
including many years of printer manufacturing and support work qualify
me to speak on the matter, and I have no axe to grind or hidden agenda
here.

For the record, I really like my Epson Photo 1270 and the output it
produces, most of the time. Sure it's not perfect, but it's very good
for my home use.

BTW, I didn't cross-post anything, I just posted my info several times
to try to reach the broadest possible audience.
 
CecilWilliams said:
Carrie, whether Epson looks good or bad is up to Epson, not me. Since
the problem of Epson printheads clogging is widespread and apparently
not well understood, I decided to share my own personal experiences as
a long-time Epson printer user.
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Oh, shut up already.
BTW, I didn't cross-post anything
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No, you made identical multiposts, which is worse.

Calculate the world-wide I/O involved.
I just posted my info several times
to try to reach the broadest possible audience.
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I like my Epson printer and might well buy a 4000 when
available, and I wish you'd shut up.

You're not helping anything by multiposting identical text,
peppering this group with your fire.

The proper way to do what you want is to put an URL in
your signature to the text, and make normal replies to
other posts in this group, not canned ones.

-- <- that's two dashes and one space for a siggy
Epsons never ever clog:
http://I-am-an-epson-shill.org/
 
CecilWilliams said:
Most people simply do not realize the
correlation between room temperature and humidity on Epson printhead
clogging,
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Very good point!

regards
V.Greulich
 
Carrie Lyons said:
Oh, shut up already.
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Carrie, what does your reply have to do with comp.periphs.printers?
No, you made identical multiposts, which is worse.
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In your narrow little opinion maybe. So what? So you object to my not
re-typing the same information 3 times? Again, what does that have to
do with comp.periphs.printers? I think you're a bit off-topic for this
newsgroup.
I like my Epson printer and might well buy a 4000 when
available, and I wish you'd shut up.
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The 4000 looks like a sweet printer, and I may well own one before you
do. And really, I don't care what you wish I'd do. But that's a bit
off topic for this newsgroup, now isn't it.
You're not helping anything by multiposting identical text,
peppering this group with your fire.
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Fire? Carrie, I think you've gotten me confused with someone else you
may have been attacking. My posting contained only technical
information, hopefully useful, and intended to help people with
clogged printheads understand and maybe attentuate the problem
somewhat. If my postings are not useful to you, then move along to the
next ones.
The proper way to do what you want is to put an URL in
your signature to the text, and make normal replies to
other posts in this group, not canned ones.
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By proper I assume you mean "Carrie's way" to do this. I could have
done it that way; I chose to do it my way, so deal with it. You're not
the moderator of this newsgroup. You seem to be a bit confused about
that little detail... Carrie, what is your purpose in this newsgroup?
I read and write here to share my technical printer-related experience
and to get and give useful information. You seem to have some other
less friendly and off topic agenda here.
 
Oh, shut up already.

I like my Epson printer and might well buy a 4000 when
available, and I wish you'd shut up.
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Carrie;

Why do you feel compelled to be so rude?
**************************
Mark Herring, Pasadena, Calif.
Private e-mail: Just say no to "No".
 
CecilWilliams said:
Carrie, what does your reply have to do with comp.periphs.printers?
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Why, the same as yours! Specifically talking about
posts at a "meta-level."
In your narrow little opinion maybe.
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Why, no. In the well considered opinions of a wide variety
of senior sysadms who run Usenet servers. Multi-posting is
worse than cross-posting:

http://groups.google.com/[email protected]&rnum=2
...re-typing the same information 3 times?
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Why would you have to retype a successful post?

I don't even have to retype unsuccessful ones, because
my newsreader automatically keeps a copy.

You can explore newsreader options at www.newsreaders.com.
The 4000 looks like a sweet printer, and I may well own one before you
do. And really, I don't care what you wish I'd do. But that's a bit
off topic for this newsgroup, now isn't it.
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Cecil, what alternate universe are you posting from that talking
about an Epson printer is off topic for comp.periphs.printers?
Fire?
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I ran into three indentical posts by you in quick succession.
Rat-a-tat-tat.
By proper I assume you mean "Carrie's way" to do this.
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Once again, you show what a newbie you are. Here is the
FAQ on Usenet advertising (which you weren't doing but it
applies):

ftp://ftp.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/advertising/how-to/part1

Scroll down and read '.signature advertisements'.

----

You web site has sun/moon photos that I have as jewelry.

The artist is Sergio Bustamante. But what's all the blue?

The pieces are silver with a gold plating.
 
So easy to use, no wonder it's No. 1! This service NEVER multi posts. I label
people who multi post as people who are too LAZY to get a REAL newsreader!
 
Amishman35 said:
So easy to use, no wonder it's No. 1! This service NEVER multi posts. I label
people who multi post as people who are too LAZY to get a REAL newsreader!
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Yes, it's the Epson 4000 newsreader!

It's also a floor cleaner AND a dessert topping!
 
Hmmm...

Personally, I want to print. Not maintain a nuclear submarine...

-Larry

Kennedy McEwen said:
The troubleshooting guide, starting on page 55 of my printer's manual -
YMMV!


It doesn't, because it isn't - you just need to learn to clean them and
keep them from drying out: instructions on page 50 of the same location
as above.

Page 60, same location.


Sounds like it needed to be!
Amongst others there is
http://www.epson.co.uk/support/manuals/index.htm
or
http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/SupportProductCategory.jsp?BV_
UseBVCookie=yes&oid=-10237&infoType=Doc
or, if you read Japanese, at
http://www.i-love-epson.co.jp/products/printer/inkjet/colorio/printer.htm

But since you are clearly a troll you'll find the Norwegian versions of
the manuals at http://www.epson.no/technical/manuals/

Now crawl back into your cave, FOAD!
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when
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replying)
 
Always read every manual.
Always used Epson branded Ink.
Always turned off with the Power Switch.
Always maintained in strict accordance with the manual.

And every single Epson I have ever owned has died an early death because of
clogged heads.

-Larry
 
Always read every manual.
Always used Epson branded Ink.
Always turned off with the Power Switch.
Always maintained in strict accordance with the manual.

And every single Epson I have ever owned has died an early death because of
clogged heads.
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It's to punish you for top posting and being crap at trimming quotes.
 
Always read every manual.
Always used Epson branded Ink.
Always turned off with the Power Switch.
Always maintained in strict accordance with the manual.

And every single Epson I have ever owned has died an early death because of
clogged heads.
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Every one?

One definition of insanity is continually doing the same thing and
expecting a different result. It is obvious that you are doing
something that the Epson printers don't like. You can't post adequate
information to enable anyone else to tell you what that is and seem
equally unable to identify it yourself. Buy something else next time,
like you should have done already. Its not as if you don't have any
choice.


Alternatively, if masochism is just your thing then what are you
whinging about?
 
Larry said:
Always read every manual.
Always used Epson branded Ink.
Always turned off with the Power Switch.
Always maintained in strict accordance with the manual.

And every single Epson I have ever owned has died an early death because of
clogged heads.
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Obviously you are a **** up of extraordinary capability.
 
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