Dear John, first : one great excuse for my bad english, second: we can
almost close this topic because I have loose my " nerve" and I've made
clean
install of Vista on my famous partition "C" and now I have a fresh new
good
clean install of Vista on regular C . It works good and fast!
But now I have other problem!!!! so please will you try to help me with
my
new problem!!! I've made clean install of Vista on partition "C" because
some Sony software named "M-crew Server" doesn't work with dual boot (I
had
XP and Vista dual boot, remember). I've made back up of my partition "E"
Vista files but I've keeped may Vista on partition "E" completely.
Problem
is: now I can not install M-Crew Server , something very strange happens
here. Installation goes very quickly, after 1o seconds report is O.K.
installation is complete , You must now reboot Your PC, but after
rebooting
THERE IS NO ANY SIGN OF ANY INSTALLATION of that particular program on any
of
my partitions!!!! . When I tryed such installation before, it goes on
partition "C" by default, but now there is no sign of any installation at
all !!!! Before installation I've deleted any trace of Mc-crew server from
registry and from partition "E".
What is the problem now ? Must I uninstall Vista from partition "E", just
delete all files or there is some other way to deleteVita? Maybe M-crew
server still takes this existence of two Vista instalations on two
different
partition as dual boot system ???? Rememer, there is only ONE disk with
three partitions on my system. Now my new Vista is on C , old Vista on E.
How can I delete old Vista , is it old Vista on E the reason for failer
of
M-crew server software installation and why.
Mac,Croatia
John Barnes said:
The drive letter of some programs is hard coded (includes the nVidia
drivers
for the install drivers folder. The drivers do install from there to the
%
drive properly) to install on whatever drive in Drive Management is the C
drive regardless of the current drives designation.
Andy said:
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:44:01 -0800, Mac (Croatia)
But my C Partition is already "active" one !
And E is " System , Active ,Primary partition".
So I have 2 active partitions and 2 boot partitions ( I have no boot
The above is not true (and in any case impossible), according to your
message:
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:36:08 -0800, Mac (Croatia)
Stephen! Thank your for your attempt but I can not change any drive
letter
in disk manager, I get a messsage: "Windows cannot modify the drive
letter
of
your volume. This may happen if your volume is a system or boot
volume,or
has
page files."
And my volumes are: (copy from Disk manager) :C is
"system,Active,Primary
Partiton" and E is "Boot,Page File,Crash Dump,Logical Drive".
Mac
problems (but installing new programs makes troubles because of " by
default
" new programs "wants" to be installed on C.
Installation of programs should default to the Program Files folder,
which is located in the Boot partition E:, where the Windows folder
also resides.
With a fair amount of work, the Vista installation on the logical
partition can be moved to the primary partition, but it will still be
E: and not C:.
Mac
John Barnes wrote:
You can make your C partition 'active' then run startup repair and
it
will
create the Vista boot files on that partition. I assume for this
that
they
are on the same hard drive. If not please post back the information
from
Disk Manangement so we can get an idea of your setup
message
I will "open" this topis once again to ask somebody here is it
possible to
"move" or copy boot loader which is now on E partition to
partition
C
which
is empty after I have deleted XP and there is still Boot Manager
from
previous XP installation on C . I still can not believe that such
solution
is not possible (but my profession is medical so excuse me for
disbelief....)
. This is important because some programs during instalations goes
"by
default" on partition C and You can not use them from Vista on E.
BCDedit :
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
default {current}
displayorder {current}
timeout 5
Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=E:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium
osdevice partition=E:
systemroot \Windows
Mac
:
Good luck, but since you installed Vista to another drive letter,
the
entries in the registry are all pointing to an F partition. That
is
why
I
believe that Vista was changed to always install itself as C when
installed
from the DVD, but when installed from another system it uses the
same
process as the pre-Vista Windows systems did, the next availavable
drive
letter. There used to be a program packaged with Partition Magic
that
would
go thru the registry and make the changes, but if you run into
problems,
make sure the partition you clone to also will enumerate itself as
F.
Well many thanks for all of your help. I think I'll install a
new
solo
drive,
which should just become the C drive, and clone the partition
over
to
it.
RAID isn't really reliable enough anyway, at least not in my
experience.
:
BootItNG is my choice for partition management, but I am not
sure
if
there
will be a problem because of RAID. Depending on your setup,
you
might
have
to backup and restore the system after recreating your RAID. I
think
BootItNG will do it though and you can download a trial so you
don't
have
to
buy anything you don't want to. If it doesn't, before going
thru
the
hassle
of recreating everything, I would make a new post in this group
with
RAID
in
the topic and I am sure someone who regularly works with RAID
arrays
will
be
able to give you more specific advice. Vista Disk Management
really
only
allows expansion into following freespace, which I take it you
don't
have.
message
So I managed to delete the C partition ... it was easy
enough.
Vista
didn't
move itself automatically, as you said it wouldn't. Vista
doesn't
let
me
expand the F partition into the free space, however, which is
kind
of
irritating. I tried using both the management console and the
Diskpart.exe
tool. I also tried with Paragon Partition Manager 8.5, which
claims
to
be
able to do do it--the app rebooted my PC into a scary DOS
app,
which
reported
some errors, threw it's hands up, and returned me to Vista
safely.
Any
idea
how to expand my F partition across my full disk? Which is,
FYI,
a
striped
RAID array, to add to the fun.
:
Windows sets the drive letter of each volume it sees in the
registry
on
first boot, (all drive letters assigned to volumes are
assigned
by
the
Mount
Manager (MountMgr) program. After a drive letter is assigned
to
a
volume
by
MountMgr, the drive letter is reserved for the volume in the
MountMgr
database located in the system's registry.) so within Vista
it
will
remain
the same letter it now shows up as. Your only problem would
be
if
you
had
pointed to any programs, files etc. on the XP drive and they
are
saved
in
shortcuts or registry entries. For safety, you could search
your
Vista
registry using regedit for C:\ and C:/ to see if you have
anything
shared
with XP you didn't know about. Use the drive letter that XP
shows
up
as
in
Vista for the search. There is no way to know for sure what
drive
letters
will be assigned at sub-OS level so it is always safest to
have
slightly
different sized partitions and make sure they are distinctly
labeled.
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Thanks for all of your help, John. I do appreciate it. One
more
question
before I hit the delete button. If I delete the C
partition,
my
XP
parition,
will my Vista partition suddenly decide that it's the C
partition
and
not
the
F partition--which I think it ought to be, but won't that
mess up
some
apps
or something? Or will C just remain weirdly empty?
:
If you are not using the XP partition, why don't you
delete
it.
Management
console has limited capabilities for partition
management.
You
might
consider downloading a trial of BootItNG and using it to
do
your
cleanup.
If you think you will find it useful in the future it is
reasonable,
otherwise you can just delete it.
in
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Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot
successfully
back
into
Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with
my
nonfunctional
XP
installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things
are
different,
though:
Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista
partition
as
the
Active
one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a
primary
partition.
And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on
again.
I
feel
like
I'm
back in the same boat I was in before, though. What
next?
